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davout: ;;rate mike_c 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
davout: ;;rate asciilifeform 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
thestringpuller: i just shoot fuel into orbit
thestringpuller: you know that's what I spend most of my time doing in kerbal space program
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: sadly, yes. i was brought there as a boy and haven't accumulated fuel for orbital escape velocity as of this moment.
benkay`: and then (i think) dissolves in water.
jurov: i have seen our future. soylent and palcohol.
dexX7: ah nvm. i found the blogpost
kakobrekla: rithm, yeah, although i fixed the parsing side, its not gonna work because it would break the simplicity of the design, so nick around if you wanna dick around
dexX7: the tool used was https://gephi.org/ which allows to import simple csvs but it's really slow for large datasets (or i simply don't know how to use it properly which is not unlikely :)
dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/xfGIozu.png
rithm: b-o-r-i-n-g
kakobrekla: i think not anymore
rithm: BUT I HAVE TO CHANGE NICKS FOR THAT
artifexd: mircea_popescu: When asking about the visual tool, I meant for the whole wot. Specifically to identify islands, groups, etc.
artifexd: I would argue that the fact that it exists at all encourages the improper use of the wot.
artifexd: When I said "look at the sum", I meant look at the single number which is the sum of all ratings.
artifexd: Does anyone know of any wot visualization tools? I imagine something like bubbles with names and the lines connecting those bubbles are colored/weighted according to the rating.
rithm: i'd almost pay for a negrate from mgicaltux
artifexd: I would see such a rating as reflecting positively on the ratee.
artifexd: cgcardona_: I wouldn't worry about total wot rating since it is a meaningless number.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno why the dude reverts to assuming personal attacks other than maybe the one sided blindess impressed upon the legal profession.
mircea_popescu: mkay, so i'm writing a seminal, major and epic work called "a complete theory of economics".
Oleanie: i love this one ^^
davout: meanwhile, in timisoara : http://i.imgur.com/kBnMktn.jpg ☟︎
bounce: well, what is "the numeric method"? I can devise and use a system of numeric scales based on how much I feel I know about someone else.
mircea_popescu: so numbers are your standard of objectivity, but then when i ask you <mircea_popescu> are you using "subjectivity" merely to note the fact that the numeric method does not apply ? you say no.
bounce: eh, I think we're past that. I can put three lava lamps on a table and count them. you'll count three too. no feels or beliefs involved. even if our counting system is ultimately arbitrary in it existence
bounce: both're objective; I don't need a judgement call here, I look at the tape measure.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> an objective measure? a metre, standard the world over. < 1 ; <bounce> whether I take a tape measure to $derp or you do it, when done correctly we both will conclude the guy's length to be $whatever. < 2
bounce: er? I gave one objective and one subjective example?
bounce: whether I take a tape measure to $derp or you do it, when done correctly we both will conclude the guy's length to be $whatever. that'd be objective. we both look at his WOT ratings, we might well draw different conclusions on the same data.
bounce: what I mean is that even if the outcome is roughly the same for different onlookers, their conclusions are (supposedly) their own; like how you notice that there's no intl. standard of interpreting ratings. nor should there be.
mircea_popescu: if he looked to do what he felt like it could have been subjective, as a proxy for aesthetic i guess.
mircea_popescu: i think this discussion shaved a week off.
mircea_popescu: two hours ago i said i suspect i'm weeks away from a major breakthrough in economics.
mircea_popescu: i am saying that the poor god is incapable.
bounce: I'm not disagreeing with what you're trying to say, just that the terminology could stand improvement.
mircea_popescu: bounce actually, misplaced shards of anonimity ruin personhood. which is why i keep having to ask derps posing as ceos here "who's we".
davout: speaking of which i'm on way to pop the second bottle, please disregard all my further comments
davout: bounce: the way i understand the argument is that ownership is akin to the state of an electron, until you observe it exists in a superposition of states, it can only have a state when you observe it
davout: what you're saying is pretty much that derps exist in a quantum superposition of owning, and not-owning stuff, and that their actual ownership resolves when i actually observe, aka measure them
davout: i don't think that my ability to distinguish derps is really related to their ability to own stuff, it is not necessary for me to be able to know they are able to destroy a bitcoin for them to actually be able to destroy a bitcoin
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: looks like I lost the bet
davout: mircea_popescu: i'd say fungibility is the absence of identity, anonymity is the absence of name, but i'm too tipsy on that delicious rosé champagne to even imagine arguing the point properly
mircea_popescu: davout ne confondre pas anonimite e pseudonimite, i say!
davout: nah, in all seriousness, i don't know about you, but i don't piss with my balls
cgcardona_: also, my 5 year old son is obsessed w/ qr codes. He askes me to scan everyone that we see (yes this could backfire one day). I think people of his generation will find QR codes quite intuitive
mircea_popescu: cgcardona_ could be, but somehow i doubt it.
cgcardona_: i actually think bitcoin is QR code's killer app
mircea_popescu: "I have no other world, no other life."
mircea_popescu: "Margo I have lived in the theatre as a Trappist monk lives in his faith"
mircea_popescu: davout i mean specifically. or to quote again,
mircea_popescu: Members across three generations: P.L. Chebyshev, A.A. Markov, A.M. Lyapunov, S.N. Bernshtein (ie. Bernstein), E.E. Slutskii, N.V. Smirnov, L.N. Bol'shev, V.I. Romanovskii, A.N. Kolmogorov,Yu.V. Linnik, and the new generation: V Petrov, S.V. Nagaev, A.V. Nagaev, A. Shyrayev, etc.
mircea_popescu: I would like to record here (so people get off my back) that I do not belong to the so-called "Austrian School" of economics, in spite of a few similar positions on bailouts and bottom-up systems. I believe in mathematical statements. But if I were to belong to a school of thought designated by a nationality, the {NATIONALITY} SCHOOL of {DISCIPLINE} it would be the Russian school of probability.
mircea_popescu: i gotta get taleb to write about bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i can fucking hear them.
mircea_popescu: so you know, i go there like a fucking ride of valkiries screaming all the way from like outside, WHO DUN IT!
mircea_popescu: mike_c threw me for a fucking loop. cause afaik he was leaving tomorrow, right ? so i had secretary call hotel front desk to sert up lunch, cause i figured... we can do lunch
davout: i really hate being in a rush
jurov: lmao my cabbie (when i got lost a bit on arrival) refused to accept 10 euro bill
mircea_popescu: 7 1/2 hours earlier i mean.
mircea_popescu: davout was like... hey, i know you set it up for us to be there in time, but could you cancel it so we go on foot 7 1/2 hours later ?
Shakespeare: ASCII gave your cabbie a bunch $20 bills this morning. I couldn't tell which of them enjoyed it more
mircea_popescu: but they won't let you take i dunno, lotion. i nevere heard of lotion exploding
mircea_popescu: davout after you drink it i'll tell you what it cost.
Shakespeare: I wrapped it in my clothesline my checked baggage
Shakespeare: I did get to hang with ASCII at two airports though
Shakespeare: I had to go thru security 3 times once I got to US
Shakespeare: I still in NJ too
davout: mircea_popescu: i wish to apologize for my rudeness in marking my territory in timisoara repeatedly
davout: Shakespeare: i'm not sure i follow
davout: Shakespeare: i beg your pardon
davout: i found france
mircea_popescu: i mean, i don't actually think that w/e, they're faking it. but it just fails to compute on the intuitive level.
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare i still have trouble wrapping my head around the notion.
mircea_popescu: i never met anyone with actual tourettes.
Shakespeare: so for 9 hours over the ocean guess who I get seated with
Shakespeare: I'm in NJ airport :)
Shakespeare: I signed on just to beat stan
mircea_popescu: lol i wonder if there exists a secret underground ScamCon
mircea_popescu: i think so too.
thestringpuller: i dunno corsets are expensive, classy and sexy all at the sametime
mircea_popescu: btw, i kinda have a bet with mpoe-pr as to who shows up here first, asciilifeform or thickasthieves.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, she was wearing a corset so it kinda looked to me like a playboy bunny of yore
mircea_popescu: i vote for danny.
turbo_ac100: trying again (i know right now I'm not authed). There is a flood message I'm gonna reproduce now
thestringpuller: rested i see from the exciting conference
turbo_ac1001: I did
kanzure: does this mean i'm dreaming
cgcardona_: hopefully i can work something out w/ Anduck to find out what happened.
cgcardona_: but i guess its good that I found out now
fluffypony: well not kick them off, I think it forces a nick change to GuestXXXXX
cgcardona_: so now that I have it set to enforce it will make someone enter my nickserv each time and if not kick them off of my nick?
cgcardona_: i should check the logs.
cgcardona_: you mean that I don't have nickserv set to enforce my nick registration?
cgcardona_: don't see how someone nicksquatted me - i have it registered w/ nickserv
mircea_popescu: yeah i'm just squatting here.
cgcardona_: ah ok - I'll uddate
benkay: best clubs are small clubs, jurov. i wonder what attendance will be like next year.