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mircea_popescu: i guess if your wotcoin actually works so that every user gets 10 coins for every other user present
ThickAsThieves: i missed the specific fault
ThickAsThieves: i could perform services for pos coins, etc
ThickAsThieves: i mean i could certainly barter for rating points
mircea_popescu: well, if i unrate you now, where do the points go ?
ThickAsThieves: but didnt i cover that?
ThickAsThieves: you mean i can accumulate it?
ThickAsThieves: hmm maybe i dont fully understand the conserving over time aspect
mircea_popescu: outrageous. i hope the police catches up with them and gives them what for.
ThickAsThieves: also, i'm with jurov, i see some weakness in the gazette/forum definitions and separation
ThickAsThieves: it's not a typical economy, cuz it has allocation idiosyncracies, but i'm not sure if that disqualifies it
benkay: mircea_popescu: i assume the normal 'upvoting rings' developed and existed?
jurov: i'd extend a punishment gazette with 3. shared protocol and then maybe public forum can be simplified away
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> so no, that's what it is : it isn't a wot because it can't be /// well i can accumulate points no? and at any given time, a maximum amount can be had, and every time a user joins anew, the system inflates to accommodate
mircea_popescu: benkay for years before and some time during bitcoin i had a romanian language digg style thing.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> <ThickAsThieves> i have a feeling though, this theory will end up distilling into one that already exists << kinda cxurious about this myself. /// one thing it reminds me of is your basic escrow deal
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is what someone was proposing at conference, when i introduced fain
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i have a feeling though, this theory will end up distilling into one that already exists << kinda cxurious about this myself.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> bitcoins being the medium, blockchain the gazette, mining the forum? << it's a very limited economy at that, but i guess so.
ThickAsThieves: i may decide mark's head didnt belong on a pike
ThickAsThieves: (note i'm taking this position for sake of the debate, i have no conclusion)
ThickAsThieves: jurov i somewhat disagree
jurov: i'd think about real world example like pirate's coins or gox coins
ThickAsThieves: to give you an example of what i mean
ThickAsThieves: i've got this hammer now, and trying to sort out what it can smash and what it can build
ThickAsThieves: i think whether it applies might lead to other interesting things
ThickAsThieves: i'm merely trying to see whether Bitcoin would qualify as another echo to apply it to, not whether it fits a perfect example
jurov: ooookay , so i'll rephrase specially for you
jurov: *I reserve
ThickAsThieves: i have a feeling though, this theory will end up distilling into one that already exists
bounce: yeah I read that link
ThickAsThieves: i'm applying it, not defining it tomservo
jurov: i understood the gazette as transaction history *with human sematics*
TomServo: I thought he suggested the WoT was the gazette, and this chan the forum
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99228 you gotta read this srsly i'm creaming my pants over here.
chetty: thanks MP, yeah bummer I miss all the fun
dexX7: the lol tribunal is so many dimensions less complex than "real" cases so i'm not sure, if it's possible to draw conclusions based on that
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i think it'd look a lot more like bitcoin-assets.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah, only one case. i suspect now i built it the wrong way,
fluffypony: I would've loved to have seen more
ThickAsThieves: but i havent seen their method
jurov: me? i was replying to benkays' water tower sry
Naphex: i cant wait for decentralized voip with pay2relay telephony
ThickAsThieves: depends what your expectation/definition of decentralization is i suppose
mircea_popescu: anyway, i hope taaki doesn't end up sending intenret hitmen to kill me or something
ThickAsThieves: after that i'd have questions about privacy over the system
ThickAsThieves: i actually have a saying
ThickAsThieves: i could provide a tip address after the fact or such, but no payment would be required
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'd love some, can I reimburse you for them?
kakobrekla: see, i told you retards still have ze money.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'm so surprised, and I'm sure bitcoinpete will be too
TomServo: signed with a weak key, last I saw.
fluffypony: at least, with the domains I registered today I had to
fluffypony: I see ICANN now forces you to verify your email if you list your actual contact details on your domain
ThickAsThieves: yeah, i think it's only a temporary problem
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lol i didn't click. i guess he's a slow reader.
benkay: hey so i have my conjectures but how the hell does this work: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/this-tower-pulls-drinking-water-out-of-thin-air-180950399/ ?
ThickAsThieves: so i can negrate them?
ThickAsThieves: should i be able to add someone to the WoT myself
mircea_popescu: i guess this is actually it.
benkay: "i'm asking you what i'm in!?"
mircea_popescu: i'm making urmom a better gazelle than the wot ever was, bish.
fluffypony: "I rated you a 2 on urmom gazelle"
mircea_popescu: tbh i was tempted to outright call it a wot.
fluffypony: I like that
ThickAsThieves: no definition of punishment i know would include a positive rating
ThickAsThieves: but i think you might be choosing the wrong word
ThickAsThieves: i get what youre saying,
mircea_popescu: sure. maybe i don't want it.
ThickAsThieves: i punish you with my appreciation
mircea_popescu: which is why i'd say punishment is the proper term.
ThickAsThieves: so maybe i reword to, any organized effort could benefit from a properly implemented economy
mircea_popescu: so i put a note on a guy's "officer notesd" place that hey, you took all our x runes wtf
mircea_popescu: i CREATED IT because we have an open guild bank where anyone can take out a stack, but you're not supposed to take out the WHOLE stack of things you can use 1-2 of
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if this could be applied to mmporg guilds, maybe your Rift guild is missing a punishment gazette
ThickAsThieves: so not as sweeping as i said
mircea_popescu: which claim is that ? i make som any
mircea_popescu: i know what i said, what i don't follow is what you said.
mircea_popescu: dignork i don't follow ?
ThickAsThieves: well i did start by acknowledging it was not a MoE
mircea_popescu: i mean you know, you can view planets as stars, as in the case of venus
ThickAsThieves: i always sorta viewed mediums of exchange as manifestations of time
ThickAsThieves: i suppose
ThickAsThieves: i mow your lawn so i can have you do my taxes
ThickAsThieves: just when i was gonna take a break from reading
davout: ;;rate mike_c 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also btcalpha <3
jurov: looks like i should update my ratings too :)
mircea_popescu: i thought sarcasm fo sho, you nooblet you
davout: ;;rate mike_c 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
davout: ;;rate kakobrekla 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also Bit4x
davout: ;;rate asciilifeform 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, very knowledgeable about engineering and beagles
Blazedout419: [11:24am] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 3 | New rating: davout > 3 > jurov | this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
Blazedout419: [11:24am] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 3 | New rating: davout > 3 > jurov | this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
jurov: what? i see gribbles replies
davout: ;;rate jurov 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate jurov 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL
ThickAsThieves: jurov:<davout> ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR <<< lol I'm not aware TAT took over coinbr :D /// Surprise!
davout: jurov: thanks, i'll inquire about it
jborkl: Ok, I read the website facts for Maidsafe and I feel dumb now. And if they are going to make a really bad pun they need a logo to go with it that makes you laugh