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kakobrekla: mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/449558141525827584 < did you know wences runs that thing? (i did not)
HeySteve: I give peter todd points for style, mike hearn sounds very grumpy
ThickAsThieves: naphex thats what i was discussing earlier
ThickAsThieves: i understand, yet can't grok how you'd actually go about proving a "house" can stand without load-bearing walls, in practice
HeySteve: I would tentatively suggest an economy is broken if it leaks value into competing economies
HeySteve: this is why I asked about decentralised systems
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> timestamping doesn't initially seem to add much to a WoT, but I'm starting to think the more data points the easier to spot Sibyls <<< wot has timestamps as it is.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> first it is not yet proven that all systems require an "mircean" economy, though i suspect they do << all systems contain one, whether aware or not, i'd say.
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> I'm still stuck on this Sybil thing :) if you identify a puppet troupe, is there a mechanism to neutralise it beyond information-sharing? << no, by definition.
bounce: o_O? blah now I need to go dig.
mircea_popescu: <Naphex> if i would've had more time i would deffinetly do a ISK/BTC exchange just for fun:D << or else just join 1BTC, bitcoin's eve guild, where shares are tradeable for mpex shares etc.
HeySteve: ok fluffypony, fair enough, I need a better word for it
ThickAsThieves: i think the point of the mircean way is to have "moderation" be dynamic to the viewer
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves Hearn << "If things evolved naturally, I'd end up mattering much less, which is to say my current denial of my own irrelevance would become much more difficult to maintain, even in my own eyes".
HeySteve: heh mircea_popescu, I mean something inspired by the voicing in here
ThickAsThieves: i also have no basic problem with integrating a WoT into the blockchain
ThickAsThieves: i have no argument there
HeySteve: I'm thinking rating will be a transaction, so that's timestamped and recorded. as you say, it is another level of context
HeySteve: timestamping doesn't initially seem to add much to a WoT, but I'm starting to think the more data points the easier to spot Sibyls
HeySteve: well, that is indeed how I hope things turn out
HeySteve: well, public forum... yes I knocked up a quick phpBB for testing
ThickAsThieves: so by my subtheory, i'd say you need all the mircean features in both systems
ThickAsThieves: first it is not yet proven that all systems require an "mircean" economy, though i suspect they do
HeySteve: mircea_popescu suggested I share one of the key elements, which is that trust rating influences mining rewards
HeySteve: cool I'd appreciate it
HeySteve: oh, well I am talking more with a view to my project, still reading on MP's theory
HeySteve: I'm still stuck on this Sybil thing :) if you identify a puppet troupe, is there a mechanism to neutralise it beyond information-sharing?
ThickAsThieves: but i think it qualifies nonetheless
fluffypony: must've missed that, I will
ThickAsThieves: i was exploring whether the the WoT itself contains an economy
fluffypony: "upvote my post and I'll upvote yours" ?
Naphex: i wouldn't read too much into it
Naphex: if i would've had more time i would deffinetly do a ISK/BTC exchange just for fun:D
HeySteve: I thought bitundo resolved as unlikely to work as a service
ThickAsThieves: and when that is the same person whom, if i recall, helped the last fork occur
ThickAsThieves: he's basically building a BETTER BitUndo, i think/....
ThickAsThieves: Darling I don't know why I go to extremes
ThickAsThieves: And if I stand or I fall
ThickAsThieves: Darling I don't know why I go to extremes
ThickAsThieves: i guess he really is a NSA plant
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if he'd build the best way to double spend by trying to make the best way to prevent it
davout: ThickAsThieves: I HERD U LIKE SYSTEMZ
ThickAsThieves: how you know it's a good idea? "This may seem a radical suggestion, but I think it's much less radical than
ThickAsThieves: Hearn "Although I never expected it when I first started using Bitcoin, nowadays most of my purchases with it are for food and drink. If Bitcoin could not support such purchases, I would use it much less."
fluffypony: I don't actually get the relationship
HeySteve: but I know for an almost certainty that bastard exists someplace, he's no fiction
HeySteve: for example. I have low trust of Karpeles, I wouldn't let him watch my wallet
HeySteve: if we consider trust as it's presently used as separate to what I'd call "realism"
Apocalyptic: i know who you are
davout: Apocalyptic: no, i'm the green bush on the left side of the picture
davout: asciilifeform: in case you want to add that to your collection -> http://i.imgur.com/S4IoBB8.jpg
fluffypony: I like this: "Mining pools are Guild Navigators. Nodes are Sand Worms. Developers are the Fremen. reddit trols are House Harkonen. Bitcoin, of course, is Spice."
fluffypony: an honest review of Neo&Bee stock: http://i.imgur.com/42c7pNg.jpg
fluffypony: BFL apologist on Reddit: "Many other manufacturers do the same. So my miner was used by BFL for 24 hours before they shipped it to me. Big deal. EDIT: And I've been happy with the BFL hardware I've used. Granted I did have to wait a long time for it - and although this is endemic in this industry, it's true that their waiting times have been perhaps somewhat worse than some of their competitors."
fluffypony: I'm quite horseish on Bitcoin
bounce: though I suspect donkeys might still be more common in romania
fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/7H9gskb.jpg
mircea_popescu: yo Naphex. i wanna do the following : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2014#636082 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: actually, i recall a time when romanian police used plain radars on the roads, and you could get electronic invisibility kits
fluffypony: bounce: I worked on an ANPR system for a parking garage years ago (2003?) to catch tail-gaters
mircea_popescu: bounce i wouldn't trust a tempest-proof case rated as such by a us institution and/or manufactured by a us corp
fluffypony: shame, I'd hate to be that dude
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre: how do you gage memory recall? << i'll tell you how. write 10k articles on your blog, then see if you can recall "where x was" when people ask.
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre: by the way, I'm really disappointed how bitbet posts latest bets to the front page. I sniped this coinlab bet from a few months , and someone just followed me << now you understand our evil.
mircea_popescu: that's where i am.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: ikr, I already had to wade through the alexsanjose interview and then there was all that stuff after
fluffypony: yerp, I'll look around peripherally and see if there's anyone I stumble across
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I reached out to an affiliate manager I know of, great candidate, to see what it would cost to lure him away from his current venture...no word back
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: I have bored more
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: I barely find you better than a cow
moiety: i need this info
artifexd: You were asking for funds and I thought about making an offer.
TestingUnoDosTre: I didn't say you wrote it, just posted. "The most important article on psychiatry you will evar read"
BingoBoingo: artifexd: To you I offered nothing of the sort, nigger.
artifexd: You know, I gave serious thought to sponsoring your blog in exchange for you mentoring me. Specifically for an agreement that you would explain stuff to me in terms that I could understand.
artifexd: I am several orders of magnitude more familiar with bitcoin than pharmacology.
moiety: i love GSDs
artifexd: I currently have a 6 month old GSD.
artifexd: Another combination of words that confounds me. "Scoop your shit" I don't understand. "Make them yourself" I understand.
moiety: i love that blog
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: I'd bet over
BingoBoingo: I guess I can't bet because I am reading
BingoBoingo: Except ETOH, I'll blow when I get in from garage
TestingUnoDosTre: the reason why I asked about quetiapine is because I use it, and think of it as habit forming
BingoBoingo: I've heard such from victims of my current legal adversary
artifexd: Hephaestus was a blacksmith to the gods. He created wonderful and amazing things that were used and appreciated by the most powerful beings in the universe. I'd say he felt pretty proud and satisfied.
moiety: artifexd: depends entirely on the drug. for lithium and lamotrigine, i'd say no. but addons eg quetiapine (to stop racing thoughts) can chill people out, aid sleep and also isnt addictive
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Magic happens because I dunno either of those cases
artifexd: So back to before you mentioned lithium. I guess that I do not recognize the problem.
moiety: lol i went to log into the bnf and they give you an option to check your ip. whyyyy? https://www.bnf.org/bnf/login.htm
artifexd: "Smoke? Anchor? Turd?" <- I don't understand the reference
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Because you said what I wanted to spz. You just added noise to it though.
moiety: what i said is that they are both entirely different
artifexd: So why the comment that lithium is not a simple mood stabilizer when I wasn't talking about lithium. Unless you meant that as to also say that lamotrigine is also not a simple mood stabilizer.
moiety: and no i didnt start archer yet either
BingoBoingo: Who says I am succeeding right now?
artifexd: Thus a more stable mood. So, I called it a mood stabilizer.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Full disclosure. I have a diagnosis of Bipolar I disorder. I can't given reality justify actual meds so i love booze.
moiety: i totally agree about camels
artifexd: BingoBoingo, you seem to have the ability to, more than anyone else I know (including mp, maybe not including my wife), make me feel like a complete idiot.