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thestringpuller: i guess you can open in sqlite and do a sql dump
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's a great idea.
thestringpuller: I'm trying to make a visualizer for the WoT for fun to get my d3 skills better
Jason: 04:11:48 <+thestringpuller> Is there a raw db for WoT?
thestringpuller: Is there a raw db for WoT?
gribble: Error: "isl2" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i suppose if worst comes to worst assbot can offer this as a function ? seeing how it already knows anyway ?
gribble: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids, GPG, MessageParser, and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info".
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: Jason that's actually a good q. kakobrekla how does assbot do it ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe she finds him in bed with like two goats and a snail gets angry and buries an axe into his skull
Jason: mircea_popescu: how can I check if someone's in assbot's l2 wot? it doesn't look like b-otc.com has a method of doing this, and keeping/syncing a local db is silly
kakobrekla: like she has a say re speedballs.
mircea_popescu: what approach do you favour here, more like a. writing a supybot module for assbot and ready code to be run on the current server or more like b. running your own server with your own supybot etc ?
Jason: mircea_popescu: ugh wp is a pain. i was just going to either use a flatfile db or sqlite
BingoBoingo: Jason: Anything more styled than http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/ is a failure
mircea_popescu: seeing how if you do that you get a mysql free into the mix
mircea_popescu: in fact.... it could as well be a wp install
mircea_popescu: Jason plain is a bitcoin tradition.
TheNewDeal: b-a is famous for barebones
Jason: i totally suck at ui - is a barebones form ok?
mircea_popescu: kako maintains that site. but yeah seems a * recvord
assbot: #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
Jason: mircea_popescu: oh, looks like you just have a catchall
TheNewDeal: hey, bitcoin-financial ended in a bitcoin heist. Who knows what can happen with bitcoin-financials!!
Jason: mircea_popescu: had a q?: you said a new deed in the system can enter on a form @ deeds.bitcoin-assets.com.
nubbins`: okay, so a cop car has been parked next door with the engine idling for TWENTY HOURS now
BingoBoingo: <ascii_at_beach> mircea_popescu: here's one possible reduction, somewhat coloured by my 'vacation reading' pile. in machining, there is some upper bound to idiocy because man comes with a mere ten fingers. here, on the other hand - no limit << ascii_at_beach any guesses on how many "complete" fingers grandpa has?
kyuupichan: Diff will still grow, but it'll reduce too, and the reductions hurt more than the growths help. Once diff stabilizes BTC will actually have a cycle of less than 2 weeks, perhaps 2 weeks and 4/5 hours on average, owing to volatility and convexity working against it.
mircea_popescu: ascii_at_beach keyboard still has a fixed number of keys :D
ascii_at_beach: mircea_popescu: here's one possible reduction, somewhat coloured by my 'vacation reading' pile. in machining, there is some upper bound to idiocy because man comes with a mere ten fingers. here, on the other hand - no limit.
TheNewDeal: that deserves a party or something
ascii_at_beach: thestringpuller: 2 or 3x a decade...
mircea_popescu: also: I'm not endorsing ethereum, I just think it's highly interesting, mainly from a technical perspective and for the implications it might have (which I can't yet fully imagine). Unsure who's really behind it, either, and what the larger plan is there..."
mircea_popescu: "sentiment of bitcoiners seems quite negative against ethereum. people fear what they don't understand, I guess. Or maybe it's envy these guys are being swamped with coins. btw: not saying ETH is a good investment, I have strong doubts. Ethereum being successful does not necessaril imply ETH will be valuable.
ascii_at_beach: i still think ether's a laundry.
BingoBoingo: Like Imms find Bitfury and give them a Buttfury
gribble: You rated user gmaxwell on Sat Aug 9 17:15:40 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Likely UnSavoryGarnish, Plant of either US government or Aubergine variety.
BingoBoingo: <kyuupichan> Someone's added a boatload of btc hash power in the last week it seems We better get some long blocks
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, "with the nonsensical approach that all people are equal we're discovering that the expense of maintaining a colonial empire exceeds the benefits and so we will pretend that we're leaving out of respect for the locals"
kyuupichan: Someone's added a boatload of btc hash power in the last week it seems
mircea_popescu: by the very definition that is a metropolis-led process.
mircea_popescu: seems that in no historical case has colonisation been a net negaitive for the colonised, starting with caesar's germania
nubbins`: actually, that second link from above is a real drag
nubbins`: clarity is not required to smoke a cigarette and shout at one's family
nubbins`: nuance isn't a prerequisite for buying a case of beer
nubbins`: this is roughly how idiots communicate, in a rudimentary fashion
BingoBoingo: To sodomize Wittgenstein If a lion could speak would you understand it, how then could idiots understand each other
nubbins`: “Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.”
nubbins`: not a bad spread of results
TheNewDeal: reauth me in a sec
BingoBoingo pretty sure those boggles were a grand mal
BingoBoingo: Incel Brazlovik probably lead a pogrom back in the day
mircea_popescu: no, but if i come with a tank into your house, i seized the wife
nubbins`: if i mail you a t-shirt, you haven't seized my clothing
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> it's a bit saucy to say anyone "siezed control" after being voted into power in an internationally-monitored election << Shhh don't let Obama read the lawgs his election wasn't internationally monitored
nubbins`: it's a bit saucy to say anyone "siezed control" after being voted into power in an internationally-monitored election
BingoBoingo: The problem with Pidgins is when you leave them all you have is nonsense a la US - Levant news
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re the other item : actually disarming the us police may be a good idea.
assbot: Michael Brown: Unarmed black teenager shot in Ferguson, a St. Louis suburb.
BingoBoingo: Also North St Louis County seriously might Go Gaza this week http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/10/michael_brown_unarmed_black_teenager_shot_in_ferguson_a_st_louis_suburb.html
BingoBoingo: People who live without a devil http://the-toast.net/2014/01/29/everyone-imposter-syndrome-except/
BingoBoingo: Evil always finds a way, so one must adopt the most effective evil.
BingoBoingo: Yezedis are no more devil worshippers than the Haitians. If they worshipped the right devil as I do ISIS wouldn't be such a threat to them.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo a vault is implicit laziness.
ascii_at_beach: likewise 'index card plus btcd' is a more compact, and therefore intimately -understandable- system than a software package in the usual sense
BingoBoingo: <ascii_at_beach> well it can still burn, if sufficiently apocalyptic war where the blockchain is nuked and 'damnatio memoriae' << Who here isn't a big enough "Fallout" fan they don't plan to have a scale valut replica at BTC pricepoint X
ascii_at_beach: mircea_popescu: argument is that said destruction is considerably higher bar than an accidental death of a hard disk somewhere
mircea_popescu: the library that can burn and doesn't burn is a better design than the library which can not burn
ascii_at_beach does not like the idea of a 'library of alexandria' that has a burnable component
mircea_popescu: one of those things people don't realise they can even dream of, like getting home to a party of naked disney princesses ready to suvck you off
mircea_popescu: this is a fucking thing that archeologists and historians don't even know they miss it'd be so great if they had.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <ascii_at_beach> imho anything worth keeping a hash of in blockchain is worth stuffing entirely in << by the same logic, any woman that's worth fucking is worth fisting. what, srsly ?! << Y not?
dignork: ascii_at_beach: I think it would be a network misuse, writing a law on each banknote sounds interesting though.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_at_beach> imho anything worth keeping a hash of in blockchain is worth stuffing entirely in << by the same logic, any woman that's worth fucking is worth fisting. what, srsly ?!
ascii_at_beach: a 'bitcent' per octet, i dare say, is a perfectly good balance of things
ascii_at_beach: for selling a planet - entire thing, with concordance and footnotes
ascii_at_beach: for a contract selling kingdom - the whole thing
ascii_at_beach: so for a contract for purchase of a pig, sha2 hash thereof might be all the telegraphy expenditure it deserves
ascii_at_beach: at any rate, for a registry of Important Things, you want highest cost possible short of making it a null set
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: But rot is a healthy state for Fungi
ascii_at_beach: expensive, for a registry of Important Things™ is: good
kakobrekla: nmc is alive in a sense that is being [merged] mined
ascii_at_beach: NameCoin << sounds like a problem for the one blockchain that's actually alive...
BingoBoingo: Sounds like a problem for... NameCoin!
ascii_at_beach: imho anything worth keeping a hash of in blockchain is worth stuffing entirely in
RagnarDanneskjol: i think Telegraphy gets too complicado with the blockchain parsing bit. this is a much simpler proposition
mircea_popescu: Jason " and append it to a string which is hashed every 512 seconds." << no, old things already included in the block you don't keep around anymore
Jason: so i check if they have l2, then i check their gpg fingerprint at http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=(nick), verify the signature, and append it to a string which is hashed every 512 seconds.
mircea_popescu: the l2 is a recursion thereof.
mircea_popescu: this can just be a long textfile.
mircea_popescu: 2. all the valid deeds received in a specified interval, say 512 seconds, are appended together, hashed, and the resulting hash is inserted into a bitcoin transaction, which becomes part of the bitcoin blocchain.
mircea_popescu: the other one of them is through a form on a website, at deeds.bitcoin-assets.com
Jason: mircea_popescu: so i receive data, and i store it in a database.
mircea_popescu: so, the idea is to maintain a corpus of documents, much like deed registrars work irl. you register a document, it becomes part of a record others can review. permanently.
mircea_popescu: Jason let me go into detail here build you a full model so you understand better.
Jason: so i'm still not entirely sure what i just saw happen. you sent it a pgp message, and it responded with a different pgp message.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol turns out i used a cached command with the old signature.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the idea being : i sign a document, send it to your bot this way, the bot includes the document if it qualifies in the list of documents.
mircea_popescu: given me back a pgp message.