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ThickAsThieves: but yknow i will bring up visiting Africa
mrwdunne: I think people prefer to live for longer though. Definitely go and do some charity in Africa though - its a great experience
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: in all seriousness, there are a number of really good programs out here that are always looking for help - I think I linked to these guys the other day, but in case not: http://www.jukani.co.za
ThickAsThieves: worse, i'm portuguese
ThickAsThieves: except no way am i moving to the COngo
ThickAsThieves: i told him "on YOUR time, not mine!"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves am i to charge him retainer ? :D
ThickAsThieves: i need to gtfo usg
ThickAsThieves: The verdict is in, unless i'm ready to move to Romania, and/or MPEx blocks US customers, and/or I register as a broker/dealer with SEC, I must decline the MPIF mgr position due to legal concerns. Even then, it'd take a combination of those to have any remote chance of safety. :(
mircea_popescu: decimation: re: amazon, I've heard it's a tough life working there << but it's a large corp. of course they'd be managing the fuck out of all cost, neh ? afaik google is pretty much the only giant still trying to play the startup, otherwise even apple is bezos-ing it away.
mircea_popescu: they were really great, but recently did a dumbass websiute redesign breaking everything. i bitched about it, they fixed some things, what can i say. nothing good endures
mircea_popescu: or at least used to be. i dunno anyone used it itches thingee, so you get to be the first.
mrwdunne: *yes I can
mrstickball: mrwdunne: yeah, I think so
mrstickball: I can now, I think
Blazedout419: I woud think you can !up your self?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no clue, I left just before they folded Swistech into ISIS (Oct 2012), so whoever ended up managing that process would have been my replacement
mrstickball: so I am gonna meet with him soon
ThickAsThieves: mike_c here's the website for the software guys http://cryptosysinc.com/ (the printout i shared in Timis)
ThickAsThieves: but what CAN i do to mircea_popescu?
pankkake: I wonder what a bankkake would be…
mircea_popescu: Naphex last numbers i've seen, about 85bn try to move through triangular transfers a year worldwide.
mrwdunne: ThickAsThieves Sorry, I don't know what you mean by bumfuck logic
ThickAsThieves: i'm a noob
mrwdunne: This is already public knowledge, however I confirmed it with them. Hell I think coindesk did an article on it
mrwdunne: ThickAsThieves I have it in writing that they do not, and have no intention to regulate any bitcoin exchange
mrwdunne: ThickAsThieves remarkably I have actually spoken with the FCA about this, as opposed to just reading their manuals.
Naphex: mrwdunne: before i got splitted, i asked what is your defense against bank fraud considering 'instant' bank transfers?
ThickAsThieves: so i can money launder at will in the UK?
mrwdunne: ThickAsThieves I agree, to significant buyers it is not an issue. However it is a significant advantage to significant amounts of smaller buyers.
ThickAsThieves: so i save $20
ThickAsThieves: i'll tell you, bank transfer fees are of little concern to notable buyers
mrwdunne: And mircea_popescu, sorry, I assumed this was you; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0
mircea_popescu: mrwdunne i never posted on btctalk.
ThickAsThieves: i think you missed the points
mrwdunne: mircea_popescu I have read through your posts on bitcointalk already. You pitch that if someone is competent and the idea has potential that is what matters. I am the only person who has managed to get the account
mrwdunne: Naphex: yes, we are selling in stages, at each stage we will sell the shares for more. Whatever we have left we will use to provide liquidity. However I think we will see a flood of people from the UK when we launch. Especially as the bank transfers are instant
fluffypony: I would trust Naphex with my infrastructure
MichalisBTC: sure, and I also I would like to get more feedback on the project, give out more info
ThickAsThieves: MichalisBTC I'd recommend registering your name with nickserv, then signing up for the Bitcoin Web of Trust. These are some of the verification methods we live by and a great way to build your rep while establishing an identity.
Naphex: can i clean you out if i get access to the gre?
MichalisBTC: i guess there are a number of ways to do this, we went with Java and bitcoinJ was of great help.
ThickAsThieves: so, i'm not clear how making thin clients and acting like blockchain.info will make you money
MichalisBTC: no i haven't let me see
ThickAsThieves: so i wouldnt rely on him for anything strategic or conceptual
ThickAsThieves: I met the Cryptosys guys last year, we broke bread, Danny proceeded to fuck them in the ass, etc
ThickAsThieves: i am not particularly experienced or understanding of what he wants to offer
ThickAsThieves: MichalisBTC is the bitcoin software guy I mentioned
Naphex: fluffypony: prolly more interesting, RON vs BTCHotWallet https://i.imgur.com/ZvdQiSl.png
pankkake: yeah I saw it :)
pankkake: I'm surprised things like mtgox bankruptancy were considered "bad" for bitcoin price
Naphex: well, i missed the whole news
fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/xmnlXIW.jpg
Naphex: https://i.imgur.com/CDR0owC.png load times post frontend optimizations :D
fluffypony: I'm just glad I never kept coins on there
fluffypony: I have both my left and my right hands still attached
HeySteve: yeah Eleuthria contacted me, glad I was vague and didn't make any accusations of involvement there
random_cat: i think that depends upon where one's nose is
HeySteve: they hint it's related to heartbleed, NRPE or Ebury, not that I'd heard of the other 2
HeySteve: I'm more interested in the malware and where the coins are going, I wonder if they preserved a specimen (sort of thing)
HeySteve: well I have no idea if they caught this early or late
fluffypony: bounce: licensing is the issue, I think
fluffypony: bounce: 100% - I wasn't arguing for or against it, although I do think that the best non-AML route will always be otc/face to face
Naphex: which for a bitcoin exchange, i doubt its going to be enough
MrWDunne: I'm responsible for initial setup. That is something I can handle
MrWDunne: Naphex: No that would be unwise, I will have a professional do that, and learn from him as we go along
Naphex: i'd care for backdoors, known 'issues', and insider leaks
jurov: wut "SEPA incurs a 3% hidden cost + £15"? I wouldn't touch such scumbag banks with dry pole
Naphex: for something so sensitive, i wouldn't do much trusting. or use developers that are not in-house
MrWDunne: Anyhow, I do now need to go. So please send any questions to me on BitcoinTalk and I'll answer them as soon as
MrWDunne: Of course, as I said don't quote me on C++ I just know its not a PHP trade engine
Naphex: tbh, i'd be scared of doing that in C++ enterprise wise
fluffypony: (well, an epilogue in that I don't think anything further needs to be written on the matter)
fluffypony: listing on an "exchange" that anyone can list on with zero due diligence or even an email address verification makes it doubly challenging...I suggest leveraging the -otc WoT and GPG contracts (http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_Contract) to build trust and tie yourself down to shareholders
MrWDunne: Anyhow, I have to leave in about 10 minutes to visit another bank (looking to get additional accounts for redundancy). If you have a few questions you want me to get a proper answer to just put them here and I'll get an answer as soon as possible
MrWDunne: I don't think so
MrWDunne: I know as a matter of fact its not just PHP fluffy
MrWDunne: I believe I would be correct to say the frontend logic is simply done in PHP, but the trading engine is C++
MrWDunne: Hence why I cannot answer questions directly about technical measures
BingoBoingo: "I've heard this Country song, a thousand times before. Heard it all my life. Sung by different people."
MrWDunne: BingoBoingo: I totally agree. Then again how did the due diligence stop say N&B happening
MrWDunne: BingoBoingo: In future we will be moving to another exchange - post launch. However I will happily provide ID to a trusted member of the community in order to verify who I am - and I am willing to meet people IRL
MrWDunne: Yes I can imagine, I'm not the one handling the most technical matters. But by the end of the month I will have the technical details available
HeySteve: I suggest engineering for provable deposits from the getgo, multisig control of cold wallets also good
MrWDunne: I can get those details available by the end of this month
MrWDunne: HeySteve: I second that
HeySteve: I suggest stating it not as "lax" but rather "minimal"
MrWDunne: Technically speaking we have no legal requirements to have any KYC/AML policy. We will require them giving us an address just not "proving" it. Also that is meant to be per month. I need to proof read better
fluffypony: "We should be attractive to customers thanks to lax KYC/AML, as we will not require identification for those who wish to trade £500/€600 or less per week." <- so basically I can get around all KYC/AML issues by opening 100 accounts?
MrWDunne: I know about the sliding scale, I used yesterdays volume for the calculation.
MrWDunne: Thank you very much, I shall adjust it
fluffypony: "I estimate bitstamp earns approximately 20BTC per day currently."
Diablo-D3: nefario is the reason that I quit bothering with the bitcoin investment community
MrWDunne: I have no idea. And I know what GLBSE is, the guy who ran it owns coinfloor
BingoBoingo: I honestly don't know if the English, Scottish, Welsh, or North Irish have it in them any more to run anything
MrWDunne: Well there is no true UK bitcoin exchange, but yes I will make it more specific. One moment
HeySteve: this place is becoming a real Dragon's Den, I'm thinking of writing something to that effect
MrWDunne: FluffyPony I have sent you a tip for giving me a voice
MrWDunne: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.0 has the relevant information, essentially I am currently working on a UK bitcoin exchange
MrWDunne: Anyhow, I thought this would be an appropriate place to announce the IPO