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ben_vulpes: employing and accustoming armies of bachelors degrees holders to a 'nice middle class life'
ben_vulpes: increasing the national debt
ben_vulpes: definitely going to decrease the cost of living
mircea_popescu: wtf is ssi ? they already get ~700 a month
mats: er, ignore that prepended life.
ben_vulpes: mats: this year's freeze killed some homeless people, to the endlessly amusing horror of many locals
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 22:37 Framedragger: meh. dropping the whole 'all this is mayongenderism omg' forum kerfuffle, you think gender played an actual part here? :)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604368 << "gender" has no bearing on the "indentity politics" construction of "gender". what mattered was that private bradley edward manning was with the usg.dos and against the usg.dod. as it doesn't look likely usg.dos will even survive the trump terms, let alone ever again come to preminence, they'll do anything. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mats: it is quite like hanging out with d00d who runs a massive, 19th-c.-style 'hellish mill', spewing coal smoke, but objecting to the smell of his cigar.
mats: but thankfully this isn't such a massive problem as in, say, San Francisco, San Diego
mats: asciilifeform: similarly, i prefer that my neighbors avoid supporting local homeless populations
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 22:35 trinque: is this precedent for chopped off dick == pardoned ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604365 << they were hurr durring about how if he doesn't then nobody will for a while now. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: filling water table with esoteric natgas extraction byproducts and lighting tapwater for lols
asciilifeform: mats: the pest next to whom all other local-fauna annihilators pale in comparison, is human.
ben_vulpes: i prefer extinguishing all fauna and covering the landscape in identical plastic potemkin suburbs
mats: i prefer that my neighbors avoid supporting pests that annihilate the local fauna
mircea_popescu: that's kinda thesubstance of this thread yes.
mircea_popescu knows woman used to do it for jaguars at zoo.
asciilifeform: jurov: i did not go to veterinary school, did not know this algo.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the beasts i keep find cats entertaining prey
jurov: asciilifeform: next time lick the anus, it helps digestion
ben_vulpes: fleas, toxoplasmosis
ben_vulpes: i don't keep cats, you don't need to caution me about taking them home.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: don't steal the graveyard animals, they belong to the nuns
ben_vulpes: you seemed to get along with those adequately
ben_vulpes: well there were the graveyard cats
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah it is just that normally i can't catch'em
mircea_popescu: imagine if that's how it worked, you'd all be married! thrice!
mircea_popescu: i liked them to, but i don't go around picking them up on the criteria of how much they need me to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it so happens that i like felines of all types. (they do not, however, like me much.) so i picked up the half-dead one.
mircea_popescu: and for the exact direct reason.
mircea_popescu: not most of all. but contemporary/english "philosophy" is entirely equal to chatter-of-bored-iran-housewives.
Framedragger: qaulia-tulpa... ...so yeah, most of philosophy is just the effects of dereferencing language-originating concepts which don't have a reference. one finds random data, or barfs, and proceeds to mystify results :(
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 18:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actually i found this one a few blocks away, on a walk. spent considerable money and effort in attempt to grow it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604359 << much to my loving pride, when we ran across very confused kitten on walk girl repressed her inclination to push for same. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: seriously, what happens if you get one of these to define the qualia-tulpa difference ?
ben_vulpes: my tulpa, wife, wife-tulpa and tulpa-wife all take offense
mircea_popescu: i thought you had a wife.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: my tulpa takes offense.
mircea_popescu: next some nut is going to go around pretending ousia are speaking to him. which is so much better than you know, plain old teddybears and doorknobs.
mircea_popescu: i'll never be fucking rid of that nonsense will i!
mircea_popescu: why, is time going by really really fast ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 19:16 mircea_popescu: "mice were found in germany which is a country that once invaded the soviet union where lenin introduced electricity which goes through tubes in which tubes today in england most mices live." "OH NOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE!!!"
ben_vulpes: jurov: that's just syntactic sugar
mircea_popescu: i don't think hacker news is cool enough to be here
jurov: ben_vulpes: that's deprecated, they are properly named #'first and #'rest
ben_vulpes: oh wait hey did you know that fundamental lisp constructs are named after registers on ancient machines? omglzozol
ben_vulpes: what other jewels can we dig up today
ben_vulpes: tar means tape archive
mircea_popescu: put some topical ointment on it
ben_vulpes: or hm maybe store them as rows in postgres
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: admit, you just read about this on HN
ben_vulpes: wait no what you really want to do is compile the binaries pipe them through xxd and into vi where you can compare them bitwise
ben_vulpes: why aren't you using llvm to crap out asts and diff those?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: what, your diffulator doesn't tell you about c declaration conflicts?
danielpbarron: yes i'm looking at the diff now
mircea_popescu: oh and also "danielpbarron> why would adding a declaration like this cause it to crash? apparently some other change i made that works without crashing on its own conflicts with this somehow".
mircea_popescu: dude is learning difference between data and pointer to data, it's all good.
asciilifeform: aaah, that's not a kalash at all, but american m-whatever-with-shit-bolted-on-the-sides.
jurov: and the issue is null dereference in destructor
jurov: except this kalash is c++
asciilifeform: it is an eternal thing.
asciilifeform: just like knowing how to use and clean kalash.
mircea_popescu: or the cats. yep.
asciilifeform: (entirely plausibly, those with the described characteristics are simply more likely to pick up the microbe, rather than vice-versa)
mircea_popescu: ah, i'm not proposing anything of the sort, just giving some "stuff related", ie, that he's not entirely on his own
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read this (iirc, this very one) when it came out, and still question the arrow of causality here
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of schizophrenia, anyone seen the film i watched last night and which is quite excellent on the topic but i can't rememeber its name ?
mircea_popescu: survey study, "Consistent and significant differences in Cattell's personality factors were found between Toxoplasma-infected and -uninfected subjects in 9 of 11 studies, and these differences were not the same for men and women."
Framedragger: i have to share this 'cause it's lulzy: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/at3ds/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: trinque effects of toxoplasmosis is somewhat well studied. for one thing it's very prevalent. for the other, it DOES affect rat behaviour.
Framedragger: will honestly review. i don't want to appear completely naive here
trinque: I don't think you realize the politics behind it.
Framedragger: meh. dropping the whole 'all this is mayongenderism omg' forum kerfuffle, you think gender played an actual part here? :) ☟︎
trinque: they should streamline this into a state-sanctioned rehabilitation program.
trinque: is this precedent for chopped off dick == pardoned ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in quite other non-news, apparently there is a ru clone ( http://oao-ka.ru/Vremennyj_katalog/Kanal_nye_shifratory_konfidecial_noj_informacii/APPARAT_ShIFROVANIJa_POTOKOV_CIFROVOJ_INFORMACII_SA295-1___KORD-KM__.htm ) of usg's 'taclane' channel cipherator.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I usually don't see too incredibly young ones. Most often dead critters I find are smaller ones that seem to have been "cat entertainment"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actually i found this one a few blocks away, on a walk. spent considerable money and effort in attempt to grow it. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> unrelatedly, and BingoBoingo might find this interesting, i finally tamed one of the wildcats, but she died four days later. i dug grave at midnight, and wondered if neighbours would call police. but nobody did. << I usally bury dead critters found on premises as well. Just keep them out of the compost.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you should see the riverfront here. miles of what anywhere else would be primo waterfront real estate, covered in old garbage. << Just like Murican cities!
danielpbarron has 1 tame and 5 wild felines
asciilifeform: (it will, as is well-known, cycle, but not to absurd density of 'hoarder')
asciilifeform: when carnivorous beast lives in the forest, where it belongs, elementarily its population does not explode grotesquely as in old woman's basement etc.
trinque: "thing that ought to have died"
asciilifeform: they congregate, unnaturally, around the concentrated (and typically quite unhealthy) food sources
asciilifeform: the problems of the cats are a scale model of the problems of the inhabitants of modern socialist monkeystans
trinque admits *wanting to* find that infection drove these creatures to live in animal shit
trinque: gotta wonder what role toxoplasmosis plays in the hoarding.
asciilifeform: now this is interesting, and has weight, because i actually envied the old woman her ability to get the cats to come indoors
mircea_popescu: yes there's a lot of cats to the crone which superficially contrasts the lots of sheep to the shepherd, but that is driven by the relative size not the actual relationship.
mircea_popescu: cat is a preditor. the old woman is ~ a farmed animal, roughly in the sense of the afids ants keep.
mircea_popescu: it's a thing with old women. classical witch with her cat is not exactly coincidental.
hanbot: fairly difficult for me to judge which state of affairs is sorrier
asciilifeform: but some folx get carried away, my next door old woman turned out to be 'cat hoarder', ended up in hospital somehow, and her relatives called in the d00dz in gas masks and chem suits
asciilifeform: hanbot: at least in this respect, my monkeystan wins. my neighbours actually compete with me for cat-restaurant attraction.
hanbot: asciilifeform: she wanted to be important, i imagine. you shouldn't feed fish to cats, don'tchaknow, cause what if that's not what's good for them. this, ofc, buried in metric fuckton of babbling, todo biens, etc. i'm honestly ashamed i didn't outright sock her one. i end up questioning whether i've a moral imperative to massacre almost every time i venture out by now.
mircea_popescu: "why shouldn't this be just like miami ? it's hot and by the water!" "yes, but miami is mostly party sluts and rich old jewish ex-party-sluts ; wheres buenos aires is the world's largest open air feebleminded reservation." "so ?"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/postcards-from-retardistan/ << 2nd picture. orc real estate agent steals the windows and tries to charge what they do in miami. they're not simply orcs, not here.