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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It lick
the butthole without your
tongue so kitty can poop
BingoBoingo: Anyways
the lesson of yesterday's log is
that asciilifeform needs a warm wet cotton rag
to help
the next kitten.
shinohai: "Why, you
take your cat and go and get in
the graveyard 'long about midnight when somebody
that was wicked has been buried; and when it's midnight a devil will come, or maybe
two or
three"
shinohai: This is what you get for digging graves for cats at midnite asciilifeform ..... I
think Samuel Clemens warned about
things like
this happening.
mircea_popescu: yeah, where do lisp people hang out
these days, outside of #chainstate ?
mircea_popescu: exactly how
this works.
the "had
to have been
there" sort of joke, not really funny in any sense.
mircea_popescu: but yes, mtv was kinda... not bad, in 1995. not like it was great or anything, but by
the
time it "yo mtv raps" and so on it was clearly off
the rails.
mircea_popescu: so i guess i miss out on most of
the... what is it, "this used
to be not bad" roots of
the nonsense, much like my girls
that started watching mtv in 2005 rather
than
the 90s.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if i gave half a shit about "online" and "the web" and whatnot in 2000s i might have read it
too. as it happens, i didn't.
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck makes his own bed ; and why
the fuck do
they
think
they have anything
to say
that may interest anyone.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
these "engineers" making
their own bed... seriously now ? MEN WITH JOBS! JERRY! AND SECRETATIES!
mircea_popescu: the cries of help from
the abjectly humble may be heeded ; but hn has
too much accumulated sin on its back.
mircea_popescu: myeah. almost made me want
to leave a comment. but, not gonna bother.
mircea_popescu: "I convinced my self for so long
that whatever I was doing was going
to be great and help lots of people, but it didn't."
mircea_popescu: possibly just more successful at repressing
the mass of idiots.
mircea_popescu: originally my "trei ani de experienta" (three years' experience) was a stab at
the deeply illiterate, cargo-cultish
third world shithole
that was romania.
mircea_popescu: but he's 23 and for MANY YEARS was extremely pro-startup. which illuminates why start-up had
to lose
the dash.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 16:06 mircea_popescu: suppose you met an ant one day, and
this and
told you in morse code its whole genome.
mircea_popescu: in other nutty, apparently
there's a rather active
tlp subreddit. in case anyone's unclear as
to how "foss" works :
they'll soon enough come up with a
tlp 2.0 and
then discontinue
the original website.
mircea_popescu: iirc
the galileo system was never seriously intended
to have reliable satellites.
the plan was lots of
them
trinque: he's getting connection
timeouts so far
trying
to reconnect
mircea_popescu: davout
tell
the idiots over at le figaro it's game over. seriously now.
mircea_popescu: dat sad fucking day when
the
top result for francois perrier in both
text and images comes from fucking
trilema.
davout: fun
times
to be living in when fishwraps report about internet memes
mircea_popescu: the whole pepe fake news
thing didn't go anywhere pre-elections and lost ~all relevancy nov 8th
mircea_popescu: le figaro,
translating from ustardian newspapers
two months later.
they still get
them by boat in
the provinces or what ?
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
davout: currently appearing right next
to each other on lefigaro.fr
BingoBoingo: Good morning
to you davout, our favorite resident of
the Dark Island.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo:
The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later
tell Ingolfr_Arnarson Who is your daddy and what does he do?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: You have
to pay something, even if it is participating in a ridiculous hinduist ritual, and other
things, so
they are satisfied and leave you alone.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i wouldn't even consider
the deal. pay, really ? heh.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am still
trying
to figure out
the price, I'll let you know when
the deal is settled.
mircea_popescu: how much does half muslim - half hindu girl cost
these days ?
mircea_popescu: so do what every sane male ever did : proscribe
the parents, dekulakize
them of
the daughter, problem solved.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: It's useless
to
try
to make a contract
to solve an issue because
the contract is way less relevant
than
the way you maximize
the probabilities of getting what you want (i.e. buying from a scammer vs someone who was doing well for long -can still
turn into a scammer anytime but less chances).
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the
trade in women was
the first, historically, and
throughout history in aggregate remains
the most notable
trade arrangement. it is neither exceptional not an improper subject of
the discussion. exactly in
the same way you settle all
trade, you settle your nuptials ; and vice-versa.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Well, it depends, when your gf is from a conservative half hindu half muslim family you have
to deal with complexity around
the perisexual arrangements.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: It's useless
to
try
to establish a contract
to solve an issue is way less irrelevant
that
the way you make sure people can
trust each other
to give what was promised.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why you imagine
the perisexual arrangements of a coupla people are notably important. seems
to me
to be by far
the least important and least complex item
there is.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: but i didn't say i wouldn't
take a contract, it means you have just
touched a sensitive point in my life due
to
the complexity of actors involved with different interests (she, me, her family)
that we need
to provide of part in
the contract because of
trying
to live in peaceful
terms with
them after it and still get with our own plans.
mircea_popescu: people don't
tend
to look
too highly on
this style, also known as "not eating own dogfood".
mircea_popescu: you know socialists of
the "idealist"
type have
this in common,
that
they expect classes of solutions
to "be right" in general but not in
their own practice ?
mircea_popescu: how come you understand how broken nonsense is when it's close
to home yet somehow memory hole
that understanding when discussing more distant matter ?
mircea_popescu: which actual effective system also makes
the "ancap agreement" spurious, as it happens.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Of course I don't
think
that
the 'ancap agreement' makes people fulfill it automatically by just saying
they will, and
there is an additional actual effective system needed
to 'enforce'
the agreement in a concrete way.
mircea_popescu: we've been
testing it extensively, over years, it's mostly a solved problem.
mircea_popescu: can't hurt. in any case, you don't need any prior agreement.
there already exists, and in practice works, a self-righting mechanism for
the same purpose.
mircea_popescu: are you familiar with how
the whole wot
thing works, in practice, from
the logs ?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I apologize for using
the word violence, because I know it is already being used in many ways
that can be used
to distort a specific meaning put on a so much
touched symbol. Maybe I should use another word without participation in
the already established language games.
mircea_popescu: and as a metholodogical principle : when you discover
that your notion is baseless,
the correct response is not
to
try and prop it up.
the correct response is
to get rid of it.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am afraid without
the limits of qualias
then everything is violence and if everything is violence
then it is useless
to even use a word for it.
mircea_popescu: what anyone involved or not involved feels or
thinks on
the
topic must not get mixed into it.
that's what "is" means.
mircea_popescu: looky : violence IS something in itself.
there's no such license available, "it's not violence because of
tulpas, qualias and other mentalisms". either
the vase is glass, or
the vase is not glass.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: if
they choose
to be slaves, and know being slaves,
then it's not violence exactly. Violence is when you didn't want
to get beaten.
mircea_popescu: tmsr worked fine with no prior agreement. you have an exceptional standard of evidence before you
to support
that
thesis.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Your 2 machine guns are part of your legitimate defense. You can use violence, all you want. But if you want
to conform a community
that works as one,
then you need
to agree
that among yourselves you won't be nasty.
mircea_popescu: well
these slaves are slaves by choice. but in general,
the concept of choice is groundless in
this discussion. what basis would
they choose on ?
they know what
they want and can't know what
they need.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: But did you ask your slaves how much violence from you
they need in
their lives?
There is no problem in
the question, because it is a question
that can be asked
to someone who can actually have a choice.
The slaves don't, even if
they'd rather have zero violence in
their lives, you do have a choice, hence I can ask you
the question.
mircea_popescu: Ingolfr_Arnarson if you don't like
the usg messing with you,
the solution is emplaced m-2 machine guns and zirconium-based armor-piercing/incendiary rounds. not silly pngs.
mircea_popescu: seems a worthy continuation of
the insanity
that got
the us in its present pickle in
the first place. first, no child left behind,
then, no
to bullying, finally, "no violence". if a little bit of shit in
the soup made it bad, and a little more made it worse, surely
the solution is pure
turd potage.
mircea_popescu: phf i imagine it's descriptive,
the end goal is supposed
to be some sort of world where nobody can possibly get one upside
the head no matter what.
mircea_popescu: the problem with your question is
that it presumes an equality
that's not
there. i beat my slaves whenever
they need it,
though.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: trinque, got it, actually I know I was just playing with
the feature as when *muting* in a conference :P
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's pretty much why i said "imagine" rather
than suppose.
mircea_popescu: machinegun
the fucking
tsar, yo.
that's ~the only
thing
the russkis did right.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, imagine if
these pansy-ass "ancaps" end up in power, and fail
to hang ~everyone who was ever involved with a us political party in any capacity because "oh
that'd be violent". holy shit you don't like reading history do you.
mircea_popescu: as presented
this is just a
tedious rehash of us-style evanghelism, itself a
tedious rehash of catolicism, itself a
tedious rehash of orthodox xtianity.
there's ~0 need of re-re-re-re-doing a stupid idea, seriously now.
mircea_popescu: Ingolfr_Arnarson who
the hell makes pngs out of
text, srsly now. and how exactly is "anarcho capitalism" supposed
to have morphed into
this nonsense "i am afraid of
the dentist" "nonviolence" bullshit ? violence is great for you ; arguably
the best of
the various available
tools in nature's arsenal.
mircea_popescu: it's not just "feminist"
that has
to be either
taught at moderate expense
to
think what is rather
than expect what she
thinks
to be is'd at fabulous expense ; it's also "ancap"
that has
to be either
taught
to want what he needs at moderate expense rather
than expect he wants will be made
to be what he actually needs, at yet another fabulous expense.
mircea_popescu: it
turns out on meditation
that
the blue-and-red usg as a matter of practical gnosis stands doubled by
the subjective-objective vs need-want spurious equivalences.
the charade promises "girls"
that what
they
think is what is ; AND boys
that what
they want is what
they need.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-18 01:57 Ingolfr_Arnarson: danielpbarron: I could answer
to
that saying
that I only need judgment from people I interact directly , BUT maybe I am wrong so I will ponder about
that statement.