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assbot: Tonight, /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash cops have:* Tear-gassed an 8-year old* Driven
a truck through
a crowd* Threatened to kill
a reporter on air
danielpbarron: 12:23 <+usagi> pgp keys do not shield you against legal action by the government << maybe you are
a tomato
usagi: yeah and I'm not
a tomato lol (relevance?)
BingoBoingo_: mircea_popescu never got off
a plane without anything identifiable to customs as money to support himself?
TheNewDeal: didn't glbse promise returns , like
a pyramid scheme?
usagi: Back in the day -- can anyone tell me -- what was the difference between GLBSE and MPEX? To prove
a point
usagi: Here's
a question I'd love MP to answer
BingoBoingo_: I don't run
a fund, I play with MP's money and he repackages it as part of his fund.
usagi: TheNewDeal; What's
a bullshit exchange?
usagi: LIke I said bingo. The difference between you and me as
a fund manager is that I have lived through 3 exchange closures and you suck up to the crowd here
usagi: Bingo, Rating me -10 because of that is
a little pathetic
TheNewDeal: I just took
a glance, I haven't talked to anyone
usagi: but that there's
a small clique of people on #assets that hate me because bitcoin
usagi: thenewdeal; So if you talked to everyone I have
a rating with, what would you see
usagi: MP himself has written
a number of interesting articles about it. Gotta hand it to the man he is educating people somewhat
TheNewDeal: you do have
a fair amount of wot data, which is always nice
usagi: Well yeah you're right. I havent been around for
a long time :)
usagi: To be honest the main reason I dont come here so often is because it is
a waste of time :/
TheNewDeal: If I were
a scammer, I know which one I would prefer
TheNewDeal: not sure about your case in particular, but they usually can smell
a scam out before it stinks
usagi: It's
a bunch of horeshit, but it is what it is.
usagi: If you have been here for any length of time you are aware the regulars here like to name drop that I am
a scammer
usagi: The deal with TU.SILVER is the same as with BMF. It never wanted to close, but it did because the exchange folded. In TU.SILVER's case, we were
a depository. So there are still
a few customers who have not requested their silver
usagi: I don't think you're cutting me
a fair deal. That's also fair in
a way, I can't make you like me. But don't waste my time kay
usagi: I've been busy. But today is
a big day :)
☟︎ usagi: I'll be back in
a second, some contractors are over here now
mircea_popescu: his faith in govt is 0% yet things not in the govt add
a huge element of risk.
mircea_popescu: "My trust in government is roughly 0% ... the problem is my faith in people and companies to get over their fear of government and change the status quo is also 0%. For that reason, even if the flaws in Bitcoin could be resolved, the fact that it exists outside of the government's control of the financial sector adds
a huge element of risk. "
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal> is
A Wealth of Nations
a good read? << not bad.
ben_vulpes: i'm not *not* making you
a gribble-style endpoint, just pondering aloud
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> step 1: make OTP like gribble so i can curl it << i'm leaning more towards
a gpg-encrypted api; that is to say, curl -X POST -d file_with_signcrypted_order_blob.txt api.van-ads.com/v1/drinkingrecord/buy
TheNewDeal: didn't even think of that. Was
a joke nonetheless
dignork: TheNewDeal: gpg has
a fingerprint, relatively short string identifying
a key, it can be visually verified by human.
TheNewDeal: so far what I have learned from
A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: long keys are unsightly, shrink them down to
a size that can be visually verified by
a human
ben_vulpes: sorry gotta bail for
a sec guys, but yeah utc. i'll add
a callout, sry mike.
mircea_popescu: exactly
a la neobee and it's take over cypruss paper-only revolution.
mircea_popescu: this is why you split codebases into things
a person can handle.
midnightmagic: working on
a codebase of sufficient size is not reasonably doable for
a single person, even if that person is working full-time. Temporarily divergent codebases similar to, e.g. NetBSD and OpenBSD, are an excellent example of the fruits of multiple, medium-sized groups working on partially-divergent codebases who together created more in
a cohesive whole than either group did on their own.
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> ehh..
a brainstorming group of people can generate and then refine, an idea faster than
a singular person working alone if the idea is complex. << statement doth not equal proof.
midnightmagic: ehh..
a brainstorming group of people can generate and then refine, an idea faster than
a singular person working alone if the idea is complex. see BIP32 for example, which is the idea of one or two people, but was furthered and fleshed out by more than one.
mircea_popescu: no noteworthy advance in cryptography has ever - in three thousand recorded years - the work of
a group of five people, let alone ten
BingoBoingo wonders is "creative locksmithing" is
a thing
mircea_popescu: cooperation is the bane of small anything. the reason afghanistan is stil
a state whereas the united kingdom is
a us dependency has everything to do with the mutual hostility of small groups of afghans. that aside, very little creative work is required or indeed desired in this soup.
midnightmagic: setting side the superior net work that cooperating small groups can produce, if they did in fact come up with those ideas their hostility for other people "stealing" them would perhaps be
a tad more warranted.
midnightmagic: fwiw, conformal's btcd segfaults if you sprinkle
a forced garbage collection in the wrong place (wtf?), it built
a block which some portion of testnet rejected and built
a massive fork on over
a period of
a week, eventually crashing bitcoind (which perhaps suggests that it was btcd's own mining code that created the fork) and they keep taking credit for other peoples' ideas with
a tremendous amount of completely unnecessary
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: ok I found
a block, you should see at least one transaction against that account ID
mircea_popescu: yeah,
a year after i had been beating them over the head at every turn to fucking do it for like
a year BEFORE that.
decimation: that's
a depressing conversation. THey would have
a point of reference if someone actually documented the protocol.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: fyi, just running
a test of the big rig against that pool
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 172 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/
A Low: N/
A VWAP: N/
A mircea_popescu: in this sense atc appreciating against btc is quite
a negative signal for the power rangers.
mircea_popescu: decimation more
a witness. "so what is the net benefit of all your monkeying ? what doom have you avoided, what riches brought on ?"
mircea_popescu: so here is
a "witness" bitcoin, v 0.6 and there is your "improved" 0.10 (lulzy that it's not 1.0 anymoar)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: an exact clone with
a financial bridge. what is the distinction ?
ThickAsThieves: "There’s Bitcoin and that’s it, because there can only be one. All the rest of the crap exists only inasmuch as
a) it stays theoretical or b) it stays small enough nobody cares. Where
a) and b) are only distinct in the derp point of view, otherwise they’re the same thing."
X-Rob: decimation:
A lot, but, I happen to have
a power generation station as
a customer, and I have
a couple of racks in their computer room that I get for free.
X-Rob: It's just not as MUCH of
a suckers bet as mining btc
decimation: seems like
a surprisingly profitable business actually
X-Rob: I found
a 101G block, for
a gujy who was solo mining.
X-Rob: I have found
a couple of blocks for solo miners.
decimation: I guess if you rent enough solo-mine capacity it becomes
a casino game
decimation: The mind reels. I guess people are willing to pay
a premium for virgin coin?
X-Rob: decimation: yes. always. But that's because I provide
a guaranteed hashrate, and I know what I'm doing.
decimation: X-Rob: do you generally find that you can lease your rig for more than what the forecasted average payback should be? (on
a per megahash per day basis)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you can rent his other rig for
a few hours to help cut through the current glut.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu:1xrobauEmhLwVnTmLbs6M92n1xGFAFbgq is my address, and you're comitting to pay to that address .22BTC per week for 9 weeks, for
a total of 1.98BTC. First payment will be within 24 hours, and then every 7 days after that. If you miss
a payment, the deal is void, and I'll feel really annoyed, as I'm leasing below cost now, to average the price.
mircea_popescu: well you made
a broken scamcoin i'm stuck rescuing >.<
RagnarDanneskjol: "Sure the super-heroine that cooks very well, enjoys her bukkake work and is
a F1 pilot by day could exist, just like the sharpshooter specialist in classical Greek literature with
a side of stockbrokering could exist. The odds however are too one in ten trillion for the mere ten billion population of the planet to provide. We have enough trouble getting eleven people together that can w
ThickAsThieves: it wasnt even
a normal human life, i just kinda needed to shut out even more of the world for
a bit
mircea_popescu: they just mostly failed
a round of looking for moneyz i hear.
mircea_popescu: the thing with it is that it's
a minor liability, when compared to major liabilities such as banking pseudobux.
mircea_popescu: cash is generally
a liability when compared to bitcoin.
TheNewDeal: I'm confused though, I would figure there would be
a discount on cash
weex: been
a while since i was rated for anything
decimation: X-Rob, that's pretty neat to have
a freepbx dev here. There needs to be some method to move some of this onto shortwave
RagnarDanneskjol: yep. i stopped using them over
a year ago, am just fine paying street xchange fees whenever I ned usd now. Fortunately, in SoCal, I can spend btc all over the place, rarely need to convert anymore
dignork: it's not
a proper exchange with hi/lo order limits anyway