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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: By online I mean plugged into the internet. Not typed into a webapp.
mike_c: i was trolling tat before for his footnotes > paragraphs post
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Not that I can get to reproduce this stuff reliably. ATM I can't encrypt with Geany. I swear I used to be able to.
BingoBoingo: That I dunno
akstunt600: after i get this kicked off
akstunt600: I should fix GPA maybe
akstunt600: I have been in terminal all damn day
akstunt600: So at least i know the orkflow
akstunt600: Well luckily i have used and installed PGP server for an enterprise and used gpg numerous times
BingoBoingo: I prolly should have paused to word more carefully, but really the CLI is the only way I've found to adequately keygen with the right options
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: All of the GUI tools I tried for Key generation suck by restricting options.
asciilifeform: can't say i relish the idea of attention
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I doubt Cardano would get that kind of attention. Loper box might though.
asciilifeform: i confess that i had 'bourbaki' thoughts even when climbing off the plane.
asciilifeform: this is the kind of thought that makes me wonder, perhaps i'm already in the wood chipper, it just isn't switched on yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is still getting the 'are you the gurl' questions. wonder what kind of animal i'll be, in the imagination of audience.
Franktank_: Actually I have no idea, I do miss the input of MPOE-PR on the Securities subform.
csshih: why is it that everyone I've sold btc/hardware to has done all the right things and is now wealthy
csshih: omg mircea_popescu I sold you 25 btc in 2011
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: I see, I think I'm blurring the lines and blending two separate discussions together. I'll re-read that post later, think about it and get back to you when i've got a more concise version of what it is I'm trying to say.
kakobrekla: all i got was a neat chan and a bunch of angry people.
kakobrekla: yes i know :\
Franktank_: Ok, was I not able to before?
mike_c: BingoBoingo: ah, thanks. i will digest.
JorgePasada: Then again, I'm probably a crazy person :-)
JorgePasada: That's why I like this place though. You know how hard it is to find people to have conversations like this with?
JorgePasada: We're in agreement almost completely. Figuring out the almost is interesting though, and productive. Being wrong is the only way to learn, and if I'm wrong I'd like to know sooner rather than later.
JorgePasada: Yep, and I agree with all of it, especially when applied to the market or any kind of aggregate group. I just think I might have some differing opinions when it comes to the individual level. Trying to think them out and find a better way to articulate what exactly it is I'm thinking.
JorgePasada: I'd agree with the statement intentions are worthless in general, and always when applied to the aggregate.
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
JorgePasada: So, then I guess a follow up. Would you say intent has any relevance at all in economics?
mircea_popescu: i have no investment in your emotional investment. consequently, whether you wish or fear is all the same to me.it's merely the amplitude that interests, not the direction.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: has anyone in here ever floated the idea of bringing the WoT to twitter? << i dun think i'd want that really. but maybe a gpg-based ircitter may be interesting.
JorgePasada: I think I get what you're saying but, clarity is always good
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: because what they're really saying is "I just want to be able to sell this thing for value without actually having a market to determine what that value is"
mircea_popescu: mike_c indeed you were :p but i was saying he's an asshole, not clueless. which i do believe is what happened there, he started trying to be pr-asshole and ended up losing focus and just spilling.
mike_c: re: cuban, you started the article basically saying he was clueless :) i'm just a fanboy, so i was feeling defensive.
mike_c: yeah. i guess if there were a merchant trying to use ATC he'd probably be the only one worked up over it. hey satoshijack, what you think?
mircea_popescu: in other words, "woman, i know you love the kid, now let him crack his fucking skull open. we'll mend him afterwards, IF he manages."
mircea_popescu: i mean, this coiuld marghinally be an argument if there were like, merchants, doing txn, being disrupted. but the average txn per block is like... 0.8 or something
mircea_popescu: so in short, i don't think it's a bad idea if thats how you want to spend your time, but i do think it doesn't do much either way.
mircea_popescu: mike_c actually i think the variations in hashing are great. -2/3 isn't too impressive, and every al;tcoin goes through this scenario.
mircea_popescu: yeah i c. as you perhaps guessed, i'm a log interpreter not compiler.
mircea_popescu: i think i probably formed more llcs than anyone in bitcoin has had sex partners, and probably in more jurisdictions than these folks have travelled.
BingoBoingo: I mean Arkansas has a state park where the reason to go is diamonds, often of gem quality, literally lay on the ground. Yet people don't go flood Arkansas trying to get to that one attraction.
joecool: mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, the past decade or so, everyone sets up an LLC for something, and 99% of them fail or do nothing
BingoBoingo: Well... I've never found anything about the place pleasant. Doesn't preclude the occasional gem from coming out of there, but it's enough to judge the location.
mircea_popescu: thought leader, i can see.
mircea_popescu: one of the better cocksuckers i know used to live there pre-rescue.
fluffypony: "I still haven't gotten dick all, other then a lower share price and a huge missed opportunity on GoCoin, from seedcoin1. Fuck this."
fluffypony: I see
fluffypony: "They link to a google doc on their website (which is where I pointed you to on my previous post). It's an example of putting in effort on transparency."
mircea_popescu: i guess so huh.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm a poop leader, yo
ThickAsThieves: mp i think the20year is in the wot no?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i'll just be a thought follower.
JorgePasada: ThickAsThieves: I'm just some guy, who does things. :-)
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I nearly said as much a few lines late;)
mircea_popescu: i'm a grown man, i'm not affraid to hug a pokemon
mircea_popescu: mike_c: there's a widget for calculating cum ROI across any timespan on there << I lolled. because cum ROI is lolzy.
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, high property values stopped being a proxy for 'nice place to live' sometime around when 'programmer' became a profession.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: presumably once I understand the "how" I may come to the same conlusion
asciilifeform: i understand how 'proof of stake' works. but not wtf is the point.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I know, it's on my "stuff to understand" list
JorgePasada: the problem is I have yet to see a good way of implementing it that handles both the technical AND social aspects of implementation
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I don't know it in enough detail to tl;dr, so this'll have to do - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
mircea_popescu: so that's everyone then, i will be publishing the f.mpif 1st statement tonight. ☟︎
JorgePasada: Also, I think proof of stake is interesting in theory
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla am i correct in assuming panacea s.mpif investment is 50.0 may 1st ?
fluffypony: asciilifeform: proof of stake...they haven't gotten the implementation anywhere close to useful, but I think the idea is interesting
ThickAsThieves: i ended up ditching the peers too
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves wait, you dumped the girl because she took it in the ass ?! dude you're wrapped up too tight. /// lol it was obv much more complicated than that, i was a teenager!
fluffypony: JorgePasada: I like VertCoin because it keeps my GPU frames in business; I'm peripherally interested in PPC because of PoS; I think X11 based coins like Darkcoin are playing with some interesting concepts, and I am VERY interested in (the new) Bytecoin's ring signatures (although I prefer Monero as it's Bytecoin's code but without the dodgy premine/possibly faked blockchain data)
fluffypony: JorgePasada: there are some altcoins I quite fancy
JorgePasada: I'm assuming the general opinion in this channel is that most of the altcoins are just pump and dump schemes
mircea_popescu: hey, what was btc-e's first altcoin scam thing called ? i forget, was it novacoin ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "honey, all that trouble i went to so you could have a bloodied pecker and make me hurt... show some appreciaiton."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i knew chicks like that. "saving themselves for marriage". kinda pervy imo
asciilifeform: damned if i know, ask the client.
BigBitz: I am +v
BigBitz: mircea_popescu I did :P
danielpbarron: i had already reserved id/dpb :D
danielpbarron: and cool, i'm going to update my id/ to make it work on that site
danielpbarron: why does everyone keep saying "give private key to someone" << I never suggested doing that!
pankkake: except I didn't have to give my private key to anyone
danielpbarron: that would be cool too; i've been a fan of Namecoin for a while now
fluffypony: so I'm told
danielpbarron: you don't have to use keybase to do what i'm suggesting
danielpbarron: what I mean is: give gribble a twitter account
danielpbarron: right, that's what i'm referring to
BingoBoingo: Maybe I haven't heard of them because there hasn't been a big fuss over "scam"
rithm: i just listen now because assbot
danielpbarron: rithm: i mostly read in here; my opinion barely matters at my stage in the game
BingoBoingo: benkay: Nah, I mean actual physical hardware.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I'm not actually looking to hash, but I am supposing if someone actually wanted hash... Who sells hash.
fluffypony: I haven't got one in my hands
fluffypony: what I mean is
BingoBoingo: I dun think seems so is good enough for mining hardware.
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of wondering... Spz someone wanted to buy an SHA-256 ASIC for AltCoin... Where the fuck would they even buy one?
fluffypony: I'd argue that Satoshi was optimistic in his difficulty adjustment timeframe