asciilifeform: phillipsjk: the amplification attack you found in your packet captures (we discussed it here about a month ago) is a pure ddos vector
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, mod6, danielpbarron: if any of you wanted armv5 binaries to play with, ask jurov, they're in his dust bin, where turdatron dumped them despite valid sigatures.
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: without weighing in on the statement, i'd like to point out that you should have gone straight to 'there are priorities other than wealth/status', rather than trying to bolster the argument with 'proof by authority' using the authority of a fellow who pulled it all out of his arse
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: if you know it to be a fiction, why do you bring it up as an argument
asciilifeform: or, say, human bomb in iraq. which 'level' of pyramid do his desired 40 virgins satisfy?
asciilifeform: and its applicability to actual people is, charitably - debatable
asciilifeform: as in, herr m. pulled it directly out of his arse
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: are you aware that said device is a fiction ?
asciilifeform: ultimately any interface between analogue and digital 'worlds' is a sampling system
asciilifeform: the original point of my objection to the qntra piece was that, afaik, 'litecoin' was different from every other altcoin in the sense that it was not simply an existing source tree with a dozen constants changed.
asciilifeform: but did not do this, because could not steal enough.
asciilifeform: the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic.
asciilifeform knows nothing whatsoever about author of 'litecoin'
asciilifeform: (see 'lifecoin' for example of algorithm that actually requires increasing physical space as difficulty grows)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the way i understand, it was mainly intended to banish asic, but for some reason known only to the author, did not really try in earnest
asciilifeform: cazalla: knocked off but replaced a fairly sensitive part.
asciilifeform: (but at the same time still requiring construction of new machines)
asciilifeform: this would have the side effect of encouraging the construction of machines which are not entirely useless for other extravagant computing projects
asciilifeform: with larger and larger quantity of ram required as difficulty grows
asciilifeform: i once suggested, semi-seriously, a proofofworkfunktion based on cellular automata
asciilifeform: for those who weren't tuned in a year ago,
asciilifeform: or at least, died a less pathetic death
asciilifeform: if it -only- had the scrypt thing, and none of the other crackpotteries, might have went further.
asciilifeform: because it was the first unixlike which couldn't be nudged out of existence this way
asciilifeform: this, rather than 'open'-whatever in the abstract, is why redmond declared total war on linux
asciilifeform: this didn't affect the 'workstation' folks, until it did.
asciilifeform: (nothing in the industry happened, in those days, except in the shadow of microshit. just as very little happens in the solar system that is not in some major way affected by jupiter.)
asciilifeform: microshit quietly massacred the commercial unixen while no one was looking
asciilifeform: even something like dec openvms was supported
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: point is that, not so many years ago, one could get the 'high end' stuff on solaris.
asciilifeform: decimation: actually, sun corp. endured for a while
