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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> prior to pizarro, i pictured 'tmsr isp' as a moar 'noncontact' item, where heathen contract is signed and robotic 'bring server into gossip net' item is installed immediately. but FG / we-want-custom-irons etc changed this picture << This and those surprise power cycling of dulap I/II (I forget the dulap version history) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: while we're on 'fyootoor techs' : i suspect that a working radio net would make 'robo-pizarro' a substantially moar practical notion. ( i.e. if 'cage' could in just about anywhere, not necessarily 'dc' )
mircea_popescu: not in the general case. but for its needs it is -- "i follow his lordship x, and sink with him".
asciilifeform: prior to pizarro, i pictured 'tmsr isp' as a moar 'noncontact' item, where heathen contract is signed and robotic 'bring server into gossip net' item is installed immediately. but FG / we-want-custom-irons etc changed this picture
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what part.
asciilifeform: presently i'm concerned with ripping out the current duct tape, however.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was ben_vulpes's thing, and doesn't appear to be in the pgpball, was a separate communique, part of ben_vulpes's 'i'm off to the desert' msg
mircea_popescu: it is well advised to get to brass tacks and have a node and everything. and i fully agree that b is not here, nor is this anymore than a purely theoretical discussion.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 14:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is what i was thinking under header of 'when we gild the lily'
mircea_popescu: btw, re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1871034 : i've ended up conflating two things i think and the result is confusing. so a) obviously as things stand now, and perfectly defensibly for an indefinite future the way to go is to pipe the result of !!balance into some publishatron ; however b) if and when pizarro decides to capitalize on its abundance of highly qualified personnel to create a "bitcoin isp software package", ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's a fucking disgrace , and i'm party to it, it happened on my watch. i'ma clear my calendar today, BingoBoingo plox to lemme know asap what you need on my end
BingoBoingo: The thought of reading that thing with an eye to killing it... I have tears of relief
BingoBoingo: Anyway's I'll start splitting the customer accounts from the notes and then the notes from the launch codes
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes's proggy was not wwwtronic, so i'm thinking we'll begin by updating it to the current numberz and posting it verbatim (signed by the principals) << There was a program?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'm thinking BingoBoingo oughta take this in own hands ( BingoBoingo ? ) << I can do this
asciilifeform: lol i'd actually rather join racoon in garbage restaurant..
asciilifeform: i was thinking moar along the lines of oestrogenic plasticizers etc
asciilifeform: i'm presently unconvinced that they are created by reading anyffin, tho. presumably created in childhood, by some combo of defective progenitors and envir pollutants, ~then~ go on to 'read' things
asciilifeform: biologically damaged folx, i.e. 'cucks', do apparently exist, mircea_popescu documented the subj half to death, yes
asciilifeform: i dun expect nigerian 419 'prince' actually thinks he ~is~ a prince
asciilifeform: i can't picture anybody actually thinking this crud.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i guarantee you there's a pete dushenski somewhere pen-on-paper-ing them.
asciilifeform: i dunno that any 'think' was involved at any point
asciilifeform: ( i have a box here that is waiting for new-cuntoo.. )
mircea_popescu: i was not involved. but the girls love using it.
mircea_popescu: sounds like nightmare case, you know, "take this popular app, make it run on your hand-distilled industrial machinery in this closet here". come back the next day, "all done" i'm like...
asciilifeform: ( tho as i presently understand, his conveyor is at least as packed as mine )
asciilifeform: is why i am hoping to engage him in process.
mircea_popescu: a, before i forget -- trinque a++ consultant. i dunno what it is with the man, it's almost as if he earns his living doing this or something.
asciilifeform: and yes this ~is~ the very same disease of which usg is dying. i'd like to fix this before we drown in ocean of stupid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ours, i think, is moar of a case of 'this is nice rifle, let's take it fishing', pgp offers temptation to 'cipher and then see later', i agree that it is dangerous.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing does contain 'launch codes' presently. it needs some actual disentanglement, after which i expect pgp-turd traffic will be minimal ( just how often we change launch codes ?? ) and 99+% of the thing is to be posted in realtime.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'd like to make as much of that massive txt turd we've been pgp'ing back and forth, public asap -- it is unseemly imho that simple factoids like ' today BingoBoingo was cured of yellow fewer and took delivery of 5 hdds' are 'classified', wtf
asciilifeform: but i can see the logic
mircea_popescu: i don't think that's necessarily the way to go. for one thing, man's doing cuntoo ; for the other thing, you are well advised to run own node and do own thing rather than build an irc dependency into your isp.
asciilifeform: after we get the simplest working item up & running, i'ma ask trinque if he is interested in helping (in exch for shares, perhaps) us to avoid reinventing wheel, and solder his payment system to our acct system
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, i can see the logic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is what i was thinking under header of 'when we gild the lily' ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm thinking BingoBoingo oughta take this in own hands ( BingoBoingo ? )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes's proggy was not wwwtronic, so i'm thinking we'll begin by updating it to the current numberz and posting it verbatim (signed by the principals)
mircea_popescu: there's a difference! for one thing, i as well as anyone can tell the 2nd thing ENDS!!! it's not ongoing for fucking ever, who the fuck heard of this "planning with a halting problem" ?!
mircea_popescu: my plan looks like day 1 : look everywhere (no, that ~everywhere~ isn't a manner of speech) while taking breaks to ejaculate profanity and try and think wtf i did ; day 2 : hang all the servants maids etc in the dungeon and gets the hose again until i am satisfied by the account of each one as to how they've not lost my keys for me ; day 3 : get new keys, install webcams, gps trackers and etc."
asciilifeform: as i understand, doesn't even require crypto, customer supplies ( achtung, customers ! ) arbitrary bitstring, it will be his pseudonym in the document.
mircea_popescu: and in the same vein : if i lose my fucking carkeys, my "prospective plan for carkey finding" doesn't read ANYTHING like "day 1 : look for carkeys ; day 2 : look for carkeys ; day 3 : look for carkeys ; day 4...". ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you see any potential problem in idea of making the 'spreadshit' realtime-public ? ( when we get heathen customers, they may want their names omitted, i suppose, but as it stands i can't picture why not )
asciilifeform: presently appears that i may have to 'disentangle' it with own hands ( if mod6 has nervous breakdown ) and put it back in service. it was retired when ben_vulpes went into sabbatical, mod6 preferred to do the numbers with pen
mircea_popescu: you're a good man, and i trust you, and i know as a matter of fact my trust's not misplaced. we absolutely have to either adjust you to the tasks you have or the tasks you have to you, however, because there's simply no way to maintain trustworthyness on the long haul while capacity-activity mismatch is ongoing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: can you ~believe~ how much like something you'd read on tardstalk "investments" your workproduct ends up ?! and this in 2018 ? why, because you've been secretly saving it through a time capsule, insulated from review, all this time ?! god almighty, last thing i want is the yahoo peterl-ism of 2013 perpetuated a second past the end of that year. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes hanbot remembers that time fondly ; and certainly so do i. but as things stand presently the practical choices before you are either to make a major committment of both time and attention towards living up to the lofty position of a lord, and catch up on that proverbial "legacy hairball" ; or else to limit yourself to testing some code here and there as time permits and publish the occasional piece. this, on the long term
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 14:36 mod6: We are discussing/thinking about how to recapitalize, get more rockchips, customers. So this is on going. I don't think anyone is wasting anytime by any streach of imagination.[
mircea_popescu: consider http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813491 : it was six months ago, and i knew then as you can see now that the passage of time will vindicate the point. if "nobody has been wasting any time by any stretch of the imagination", where did six months go ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 20:27 mod6: I was thinking that if L1/L2 people around here want to emplace a banner on their blog to help drive some traffic to PizzaroISP.net and earn some btc, let us know.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 22:13 mod6: I've gotta run for a bit here, maybe later when you're availble we can go through calculating that customer equity. i did some adding, but I came up about 50% short. clearly missing something there.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:33 mod6: I actually didn't think it was any big deal, as previous months I had made these deals behind closed doors with jurov as wel.
mircea_popescu: mod6 after a night's meditation, I still don't see a direct solution for your problem. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: check me out, i wrote a whole blog article for irc ;/ anyway, here goeth :
mod6: Perhaps I can convince ben_vulpes to help take a look at it with us.
mod6: Ok, so I'm gonna call it a night. What I do know at this point is the ``surplus'' that we're seeing in the statements goes back at least through the August report. However, I'm not even certain at this point if what I'm seeing is actually incorrect, as I said earlier. Or if I just don't understand what I'm looking at. There's a strong chance that I just don't understand it. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: We have a legacy hairball to untangle. I encouraged mod6 to continue on with managing the cash account, decentralizing and in the process creating a bigger mess.
lobbes: mod6: I also recommend getting a proper mp-wp up and running. As someone who also tried to stick with the 'manual html' route, I vastly underestimated the communicative power of a proper blogotron (the speed-up-to-post, the catagorizing, the deedbot announces, comments, pingbacks, etc etc)
trinque: I ftr don't see why BingoBoingo doesn't run the thing, as mircea_popescu has also amply wtf'd
trinque: and more fundamentally, consider that when you persist in doing things the wrong way (like, do you even have a spreadsheet for this thing) you're probably caught in an avoidance loop of the "I don't even want to be doing this" variety
BingoBoingo: lobbes: I ask because it is clear Republican outreach has dropped since cazalla retired and danielpbarron turned hard towards his other cult
lobbes: I'ma be doing the holiday travel thing for a week this month and a week next month. Other than that, just the usual $saltmine 9-5 and then squeezing in republican workload where able
lobbes: benefit being that over time you have all of your various things accounted for in different piles. Can answer business questions like "how much did I pay for water between time t0 and t1?" really easily
mod6: Anyway, i'm gonna be looking for that error.
mod6: I wanted to hire an accountant / CFO / whatever for the work, even back when ben was working on Pizarro -- so he could focus more on sales. But no takers.
mod6: Got a lot to learn I guess. But this is totally something I've never even thought about before.
mod6: At one point, I could balance my checkbook. Now, I don't even do that, computer does it for me.
mod6: mircea_popescu: fair enough. ben said something to me on the phone, "double entry accounting". I don't even know what that is. But, my guess is that I'm supposed to know.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the problem with "accounting things" is that they're a fundamental life skill ; i can scarcely imagine how you get through the days of your life without as much accounting as is here required. think that you're not asked to upload in head the many volumes of gaap arcana, but merely some very basic "this plus that is the other" sorta stuff, and the complaint sounds somewhat like gravedigger's disdain of readin', takes tim
BingoBoingo: The familial relationship of Concubine is recognized under Uruguayo law. I am pretty sure the icy north recognizes Shariah law (as established in Rotterdam) by now, so if the local government frowns upon the relationship you develop with a Chileña you can tell them to respect your cultural differences.
BingoBoingo: Once the surplus is accounted for, make your next Pizarro priority a beach vacation before fall hits and the water gets cold. Arrive on a Friday or Saturday to get your odinsleep, we'll hit up the Feria Sunday and tour the rack Sunday or Monday. After you comfort yourself through seeing the hardware I'll put you on a bus to see all those cool beaches on the east coast I hear so much about but don't have the opportunity to check out
mod6: Yeah, I'm gonna try to stick to the schedule I posted, and get some food now. When I get back, I'll work on the accounting surplus.
mod6: The sad part is, I was good at the former stuff, not so good at the latter stuff.
mod6: I remember when keeping up with the logs + trb + v really felt like a ton of stuff. But that stuff has been wholesale replaced + some even, by pizarro.
mod6: I have the hunger to do much. But I fear that I've bitten off more than I can chew -- especially with things that are not in my wheelhouse that really take-away time, or slow down other progress. This being accounting things, or other management stuff.
mod6: I'd have to say, I was just doing enough to get us by with the Foundation (library) stuff before Pizarro. Much less, even getting a Stanford and world-class embassy.
mod6: Normally I do tend to work slow so I ensure that my work is accurate, despite recent fuck-ups, which I agree with MP, are not my normal thing. But yes, I'm way overloaded. And it's been hard to keep up with anything foundation related since Pizarro. Especially since Ben left.
BingoBoingo: When I started helping mod6 transition out of the intermin management responsibility, I erred judging that keeping mod6 in charge of the cash account would distribute stress instead of amplifying it. My bad.
mod6: I'm fairly busy, yea.
mircea_popescu: given this articulation, i agree with asciilifeform , it's a wonder you can keep functioning / managed as long as you have.
mod6: #6 Yes, what I did is in the blog-post there.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 00:33 asciilifeform: mod6 i marvel that you are able to do anyffing! mine consists largely of 'eat','sleep','fuck','xx hours at console'
mod6: *can't really recall what I got distracted by
mod6: for #3 Again, yeah, I'm sure I did it, may have been an hour. More or less. Those two days (6th and 7th), I recall being pretty busy, but other than the usual stuff, I can't really what I got distracted by.
mircea_popescu: i seriously ate hours of your combined time because forgot to send a v ?
mircea_popescu: now about this missing payment... did i not pay something ?
mircea_popescu: i am not impugning the man.
mircea_popescu: god knows i sank hours into documentary wells for various edge discussions (bout half of which end up published, mostly because i'm fascist with "in other news" style segues ; but many do not, as it's "yup, was right" or such)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's anyone's experience btw ? cca how long does it take to ~keep current~ with logs on a weekly basis ? << I do anywhere from 2 to nearly 4 hours a day on logs when rabbitholing is factored in
asciilifeform: i also have a portable gsm heathen thing that displays logs (but i do not like to speak through it)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i 'cheat' by having logs on dedicated panel in peripheral vision at all times when awake. but when waking up sometimes 20-30min catchup, ditto when venturing into meatspace and returning (for as much as whole day ) can be >hr
mod6: So usually that leaves 30min-1hour per night, sometimes more depending on the size. Sometimes I fall down a well in the logs if i'm looking for something specific related to any number of things: pizarro, foundation, ada, ffa, who knows.
mod6: Well, as for the logs, I read what I can on the train.
mod6: #1 was halfhour. i remember it being not 3 seconds because I had to look up the bot commands and try to get that correct, etc. despite the fact that I made it for the wrong amount.
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i still don't know wh
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm presently unconvinced that crapple iron with the horsepower of a rk but the footprint of pc, belongs in the rack ( tho will listen to reason if anybody wants to argue the opposite, or for that matter contract to colo one )
asciilifeform: mod6: plz dun assume that i am ignoring your mails ! was tied up with straightening own '10 pounds of shit in 1 pound bag', will attend to them asap
mod6: BingoBoingo: I'm gonna look at your invoice numbers now.