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asciilifeform: nubbins`: if you'd like to run node on cpu with closed turdcore running closed turdblob at all times, at 3x the cost of 'pogo' - be my guest
asciilifeform is not a soldier, but can hardly imagine an army having more use for 'individual thinking' at the platoon level than a dog has for beets
asciilifeform: but everyone knows this
asciilifeform: there is also the mechanical aspects of obedience - or unit cohesion, if you like
asciilifeform: the_scourge: tactical success, as i think it well known, is not the only thing expected of a soldier
asciilifeform: (afaik)
asciilifeform: no one is entirely surprised
asciilifeform: in ru army it is not uncommon for new recruits to be beaten to death
asciilifeform: adlai: that'd be it
asciilifeform: but who, exactly, finds the ritual torments of recruits - shocking ?
asciilifeform: adlai, the_scourge: all of these sounds like traditional military exercises
asciilifeform: the_scourge: describe, for the benefit of folks in barbaric faraway lands, some of these nuances.
asciilifeform: i could used a golden toilet too
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: for 75x the price
asciilifeform: adlai: american version of 'katyusha' ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'the fiat thing' ever tries, if you notice, to walk the fine line between scam and outright expropriation/dekulakization
asciilifeform: because it was pure idiocy. just as proclaiming a switch to edison's dc mains grid would've been.
asciilifeform: didn't last long.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: better example - 1918, lenin's boys experimented with cancelling money.
asciilifeform: (to the latter, there are some possible exceptions, see the ancient inca empire)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: that king cannot simply order arbitrary objects monetized, or forgo the use of money entirely
asciilifeform: the_scourge: point was the 'monetization' hypothesis
asciilifeform cleans keyboard and fingers
asciilifeform: damn
asciilifeform: reserve
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you might enjoy reminiscing with them
asciilifeform: the_scourge: we have mats and adlai here, also former (or possibly reverse) army men in various corners of usa vassal empire
asciilifeform: but then you learn that other aspects of physical world exist
asciilifeform: 'couldn't they just command it delivered'
asciilifeform: the_scourge: as a boy i was fond of reading ungodly quantities of ww2 minutiae. and i remember marvelling that the luftwaffe had to pay xxx reichsmarks, for, e.g., a v2 rocket. 'why did nazis have to pay for things,' i asked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i understand, they were an early proxy slavecoin.
asciilifeform: earlier? can't say
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the post-slavetriangle use of said shells is a reasonably proven fact
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but why does a particular army demand to be paid in one thing and not another ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: why, then, were cowrie shells demonetized ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: what's the secondary use for a benjamin? cocaine straw ?
asciilifeform: ask ru dictionary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l!
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: neh, that's honest work
asciilifeform: trinque: try reading
asciilifeform: trinque: it depends
asciilifeform: trinque: he believed in 'conservation of sovereignty' (as if energy)
asciilifeform: trinque: that was moldbug's notion
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if a leprous beggar could rent out space in his necrotic arsehole by the hour, to several clients in parallel, why wouldn't he
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you can now self-voice, as described in the assbot manual (message it with !up)
asciilifeform: !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.the_scourge.1:97ebe29eec56db08f42ab0fbddfb4b60375c862c3ec0412baac3b1e9b0f39e28
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella, presently
asciilifeform: well authenticated
asciilifeform: else every sp4mz0r would be rated $maxint
asciilifeform: thinkaboutit
asciilifeform: the_scourge: gotta be in wot and logged in to press that button
asciilifeform: n centuries of geometrywank < euclid
asciilifeform: (game theorist)
asciilifeform: see also the works of tom schelling
asciilifeform: but in a rather different way
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you may be aware that bitcoin network does not function by 'vote' of the nodes.
asciilifeform: (possible criminal complaint if you don't pay, and referred to collections apparatus as a civil debt)
asciilifeform: in ru world this is called 'administrative penalty'
asciilifeform: but - ianal!
asciilifeform: more like a traffic violation (with bigger numbers) than a criminal matter
asciilifeform: chetty: iirc he was fined in a civil court
asciilifeform: though i prefer 'vulture capital'
asciilifeform: it's more sad than funny
asciilifeform: 'venture capital'
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'vc' around here typically refers to the american financial term
asciilifeform likes names based on distant pasts
asciilifeform: bitcoin - the actual bitcoin, that, contrary to popular notion, still functions - is the semiconductor for all of these.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: this means bitcoin in much the same way that computing means semiconductor.
asciilifeform: or, if you prefer something more orcish, the hajduk licence.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i propose name 'piratic license'
asciilifeform: particle physics ?
asciilifeform: which is the 'other stuff'
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
asciilifeform: the_scourge: yes
asciilifeform: but it does not follow that, if you can hear mice in the walls but have not yet discovered their turds in your cupboards - mice are harmless and ought to be let alone
asciilifeform: the protocol is sufficiently well-designed, and vintage nodes sufficiently abundant (esp. among miners) that said hijacking presents little more than an annoyance at present (see mod6's experiment last night.)
asciilifeform: not especially enthusiastic, but it doesn't keep the neutrons in
asciilifeform: it's rather like public opinion of the atomic bomb
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you will find that one of the more interesting ideas we run with in #b-a is that public opinion isn't a particularly interesting concept re: bitcoin
asciilifeform: ?
asciilifeform: what means 'work' in this context
asciilifeform: he is the author of assbot
asciilifeform: ask kakobrekla when he awakens
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ^
asciilifeform: little burrowing underground animals
asciilifeform: my current working hypothesis is that the 512-list contains 'stratfors' or similar animals
asciilifeform: if it is in there after all - i'd appreciate a pointer.
asciilifeform: in their published material
asciilifeform: or, at the very least, i was not able to find such a description
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the only genuine oddity is that the selection process was not described
asciilifeform: the_scourge: if, say, it were a random selection
asciilifeform: punkman et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000048.html
asciilifeform: and found it.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but i was digging for proof that a) there are < 0.8 nodes in the candidate list b) none were selected
asciilifeform: the_scourge: no one.
asciilifeform: (said universe)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: purpose of experiment was to demonstrate the fact of.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000046.html << comments/thoughts ?
asciilifeform: this was, afaik, the only known answer to the mutilations