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asciilifeform: don't be so quick to say 'never.' i went recently to a junk peddler, he has a sealed in box 'vic-20.'

asciilifeform can't find a usable crt for $maxint

decimation: I suppose for the paupers who just need a screen cheap crt is cheaper than lcd

mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol honestly, may be overkill for this task. it's more of a small potatoes sort of thing to allow some eager kid to get his feet wet and get some ratings

decimation: lcds have gotten better, just about 3 times worse than a trinitron crt (in its prime) in contrast

BingoBoingo: A great number of groundhogs died for it though.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: that fellow grew a 15kg watermelon. << Grandpa wasted soil this year on 215 lb-is pumpkin

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that fellow grew a 15kg watermelon.

mircea_popescu: or was it the girl with a pair of melons

mircea_popescu: decimation: a good sweet watermelon is one of the pleasures of the end of summer << better if it comes with a pair of black girls.

assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?

asciilifeform: homo chumpiens isn't meant to keep his iPnohe for longer than a year, or the like.

mircea_popescu: i still have perfect vision, after decades with computors. i credit : a) low monitors and b) large fonts.

decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah a well-known defect of lcds. supposedly the new led-based displays will overcome this

mircea_popescu: a crt you can adjust to be as unluminous as you'd like. a lcd, no. has a minimum.

frankenmint: found that felt like a loser for not doing a otc trade yet

assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?

mircea_popescu: it's just a flesh wound

mircea_popescu: o shoit, bob ross is the guy that "would you like a fresh towel" dude was trying to immitate.

BingoBoingo: I saw bob ross and you've got a decade on me MP

BingoBoingo: Knot_Yeti: No, I'm just saying STLCPD is a bunch of Niggers and the blacks in Ferguson deserve the right to lynch them\

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Westchester | mostly suburban county bordering the bronx to the south and fairfield county, ct to the north. largely perceived as a haven for wealthy investment bankers, ...

BingoBoingo: Back in JUly this year I had a week with 90 minutes of sleep

ben_vulpes: although i never had the oportunity to discover what a "true" or "honest" cycle might look like, i just beat it until it submitted to what i wanted from my life

BingoBoingo: I dunno that any advanced primate has a set schedule

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ever meet a cat?

ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> bell is used by other people to ruin your sleep. in exchange for food & housing. << f/h can be had without signing that contract. contract that includes "bells" should carry a markup adequate to compensate for the interruption of critical bio processes

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Consecutive days walking is a metric too, right?

decimation: I suspect that the fantasy-plans for "contingency usg" would be a hilarious read

dub: 22:00-03:00 4 nights a week

decimation: lol http://washingtonexaminer.com/lights-out-house-plan-would-protect-nations-electricity-from-solar-flare-nuclear-bomb/article/2532038 << " Officials said that the legislation, provided in advance to Secrets, will include information from a recent EMP commission report that "contemporary U.S. society is not structured, nor does it have the means, to provide for the needs of nearly 300 million Americans without electricity.'':

ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: exercise and regularity of schedule << exercise, easy; regularity of schedule is a dream to me, on account of my profession.

decimation: EMP from ionospheric H-bomb is a bigger threat to small electronics, but can be defended as ascii points out

decimation: it's not the initial flare, it's the geomagnetic storm, which is mainly a threat to equipment attached to long conductors

upme_boolcrap: i want a solar flare that will destroy every electric instrument on earth

decimation: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ << there was a strong solare flare from an earth-facing sunspot at 1745 utc, could produce a nasty geomagnetic storm in a few days

BingoBoingo: Oh, a Brian Goss, maybe the one from this space? >> http://www.tubeplus.me/player/2149175/Hotel_Hell/season_2/episode_8/Murphys_Hotel/?huid=hxpyursy1xh9

BingoBoingo: devthedev: You ever ru a p2pool?

chalbersma: It's been a fun gents. I'm going to call it a night. You guys have a good one.

decimation: sounds legit. I second diametric in that discussion the other day, I like arch as a former gentoo user

decimation: I bet it was a pain in the ass to setup xconf

decimation: I see you keep a few 4:3 displays too

decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I wish one could buy a poster-sized display

decimation: I was talking with a guy who worked near the Googleplex the other day - apparently he knows people that commute 3 hours each way

upme_boolcrap: we only go in once a week

upme_boolcrap: im still in a development

upme_boolcrap: potatoes are also a big crop

decimation: a good sweet watermelon is one of the pleasures of the end of summer

decimation: no led/lcd has a true black

asciilifeform: put it this way. either you're a grown man and can pick up 50kg like feather - or - you're a cripple, and someone hangs around who can pick up -you- (to put in bedpan) - and this person will carry your display.

decimation: I actually worked in a library in my youth, I quite enjoyed the spring keyboard and the 'peripheral' laser scanner

BingoBoingo: decimation: I spz. knife instead of plug for a reason...

decimation: BingoBoingo: rs-422 is a differential signal

BingoBoingo: Only real difference between rs-422 and rs-232 is five minutes with a knife

asciilifeform: not that it makes more than a few pennies' difference to anyone

asciilifeform: the phosphour fades, and there is nothing to be done about it (besides a dreaded heathen recipe - boost the gun voltage. result: 'radiation king (tm)')

decimation: asciilifeform: makes me sad I ditched my 21 inch trinitron a few years ago, but it was a heavy bitch

asciilifeform misses crt, but every time he buys 'amazing!11! well-preserved111! trinitron' - it's a faded turd.

decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I see it supports RS-422, that's neat. Would be useful for a home serial-terminal server

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Modern is A/UX and system 7, everything used nao is postmodern

upme_boolcrap: maybe a few drinks

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I might be throwing out a lot of boxen soon.

mircea_popescu: upme_boolcrap say, did oyu have a few drinks ?

asciilifeform threw out a 50kg hp-ux (pa-risc!) box when moved

asciilifeform: upme_boolcrap: mind you, socket for aux wives is just a start - you still have to obtain and install.

chalbersma: Not really a marriage until it's N+1 eh?

asciilifeform: upme_boolcrap: you need a replacement wife. a correctly specced one encourages installation of auxiliary wives.

assbot: Mid West Guy | A blog detailing useful stuff I've learned.

chalbersma: Ya I remember reading about the RG problems. I use bitvps for my blog and it seems fairly stable. But I assume that there's probably a number of people offering VPS hosting for bitcoin these days.

upme_boolcrap: are a.

upme_boolcrap: you a a god amongst men Mr.P

TheNewDeal: network caught a cold

asciilifeform: 'programmers' is a ware in the same sense as 'food'

Guest36874: I'm almost certain its not a CPU or decimal issue...pool crashing that is

X-Rob: decimation: It's not a business. It's a hobby.

decimation: X-Rob: good move, sounds like a decent business

X-Rob: which I then sold and recouped my investment with a nice margin

X-Rob: However, I invested 1BTC to lease a bunch of rigs when SSD was released

chalbersma: So not much at all. I think the p2pool node I setup for RSM was using about 400MB of RAM but I was telling that server to manually connect to a number of peers.

mircea_popescu: im a case study in that neh ?

X-Rob: decimation: Because they are willing. It's not a hypothesis.

chalbersma: I think the real issue then is how much "ummph" does the VPS in question need. I've not had a chance to experiment with the minimum requirements for ATC or p2pool ontop of ATC.

BingoBoingo: decimation: OSX is not Mac OS and is not a thing I recognize as existing.

BingoBoingo: ATC is a totally independent SHA-256 chain

chalbersma: If the idea is to minimize costs then a VPS is probably your best bet for now. Especially considering that the blockchain is so small. Question can other sha-256 coins be merged ontop of atc? Like namecoin

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BingoBoingo: http://www.vice.com/read/how-to-have-a-non-monogomous-relationship-169?utm_source=vicetwitterus

decimation: linux actually has something called 'perf' that does this - sorta - but the problem is that it doesn't do a full backtrace

decimation: can you buy such a beast for high-end intel boards?

BingoBoingo wonders if there is a 68k port of Valgrind

mircea_popescu: allow me to contribute a naked woman with cane marks on buttocks and buckets to the discussion. http://38.media.tumblr.com/cf703026c6e39b636e296a6e9a8a9072/tumblr_mrhlp197Gz1sum4lro4_500.jpg

BingoBoingo: decimation: Dtrace has been a thing since I was a wee college freshman

BingoBoingo: decimation: You know StL was considered as a potential replacement DC after it was sacked by Canada

decimation: re: solaris << had a proper live stack tracing system. This is what linux has: http://poormansprofiler.org/

chalbersma: @Bingo would consider it in the future. Not looking into starting a hosting gig full time at this point. I haven't worked with Solaris but at my last job I did setup an internal FreeBSD webserver for them and I've been keeping up with FBSD for a while (esp. that ZFS goodness).

KRS-1: BingoBoingo: I work for a datacenter in Canada. I often thought of setting up something but I go blank when I think of what to do.

BingoBoingo: chalbersma: Any experience with Solaris or Free(storage)BSD? Any intent on running a hosting operation yourself?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: (unless it's 1941 and you're pissing inadvertent heterodyne noise to a waiting wagen on street)

assbot: In D.C., a 13-year-old piano prodigy is treated as a truant instead of a star student - The Washington Post