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bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu << long time ago. different rules now.
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla:meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif << fucking priceless! lmao. "of course I count them!"
benkay: i am just the phb on this project
fluffypony: benkay: I know, I lied
benkay: i'm not seeing the bet, fluffypony
davout: i'm just hiring davidlatapie to spread rumors and slander
Apocalyptic: i think no such thing :)
davout: anyway, if you think i'll manipulate the bet outcome, just bet on 'no' :-)
davout: who cares whether i think it's profitable
Apocalyptic: i guess if NSA kills b-c it won't resolve as yes
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: What I assume matters is he isn't the only one who could end it.
fluffypony: but I'm never going to use SoundCloud again without this
benkay: thestringpuller: do i look like your googleslave?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, some bear dude. I don't think it was the scam enabling moderator one. All I know is later they fucked themself by buying a bunch of block erupters.
jurov: i guess that dude made hefty profit
jurov: ah i went through bitstamp
BingoBoingo: jurov: Yeah, there was someone on Bitcointalk buying batches and paying without issue so I unloaded them that way instead of waiting for a market.
jurov: i dumped for 5BTC and still retained some, that's why i'm asking
BingoBoingo: I didn't anticipate the giveaway ending so quickly
BingoBoingo: jurov: Well, I dumped them as the giveaway was going on. 45k XRP sold for 0.6 BTC
BingoBoingo: Yeah, If only I'd held onto my XRP long enough to dump them for more.
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: i remember that lol
ThickAsThieves: I remember getting 7 or 8 btc for my free XRPs
wywialm: I was wondering who could link to Armen Alchian's papers
wywialm: benkay, beginning from latest. I don't have that much to read, I've been here sometimes together with numerisTrade account
benkay: <danielpbarron> idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage // lol go on i desire more lols danielpbarron
princessnell: i.e. demand curves slope downwards in zimbabwe and hong kong but the institutions/outcomes vary for evolutionary (genetic and cultural) reasons
princessnell: <ThickAsThieves> what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths << going from here, the types and properties are determined by the gene/culture interaction of the group that acts upon it
danielpbarron: i emailed them yesterday
danielpbarron: idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i get errors; similar to when i tried doing it with the tar.gz from the official ssss page
princessnell: (thermoeconomists extend this point more literally, but i think it's better as a mental model)
ThickAsThieves: what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths
princessnell: i think it's bizarre to call it non-teleological personally
ThickAsThieves: i dont think an economy can be perfect, because all ecomonies must die eventually
ThickAsThieves: I also take issue with "perfect"
danielpbarron: yikes, a bit steep for me; i was gonna offer 0.1
ThickAsThieves: well, I see weaknesses in that it contains itself within each of its requires elements, and that there is aguably a lack of distinction between the punishment gazette and the forum
thestringpuller: fluffypony: yea I think that story is a good textbook example of "true love" or what have you
ThickAsThieves: i felt that his theory wasnt complete
ThickAsThieves: basically, since that day i was trying to prove that mp
ThickAsThieves: yeah i was bombarded with TRIZ on amazon
ThickAsThieves: i line a repeated a few times at the bitcoin conference: "You can't remove trust from transactions, you can only design it to be where you prefer it"
princessnell: I'm writing about that right now so I'm a bit anchored :)
ThickAsThieves: it's funny youre arguing something i normally argue
thestringpuller: i kid
ThickAsThieves: i'm trying to approach it to extract more absolute observations
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure i agree on those points,
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: If you go ahead with the Spinoza I recommend posterboard for note taking
princessnell: ThickAsThieves I'd think human psychology would factor into those questions as well. Thinking Fast and Slow would be a good start.
ThickAsThieves: I guess i'll order that too
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: RE: Not representing mining in any broad way. << You did operate assets that correlated to hashpower, so I just kinda figured you were a "mining something" you know?
ThickAsThieves: which i have tendency to do
ThickAsThieves: i want to make sure i'm not inventing ideas someone else has already
ThickAsThieves: yes problem-solving is great category for what i'm aimibng for
ThickAsThieves: thanks i'll check out both
ThickAsThieves: asciilifeform, i've been trying to write up some thoughts on abstract system design concepts, stuff in the area of mircea's perfect economy, systematics? dynamism, resilience, co-dependency, etc. Do you have any suggested reading?
pankkake: I don't think creating a new coin is an honest attitude
pankkake: I don't think it will be an altchain. Just hard-fork the bitcoin blockchain into something actually better.
asciilifeform: i venture to guess that it is because the temptation to 'go retarded' (e.g. premine, insert 'egalitarian' crapola like demurrage, reward phriends, etc.) is overwhelming.
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for a hypothetical altchain that is neither a joke, nor retarded
asciilifeform: (a year and a half ago, when i wrote about it, it may have been)
ThickAsThieves: well i'll be that guy and bring up satoshi's coins
ThickAsThieves: I think people like to forget that bitcoin has plenty risks to its life
ThickAsThieves: i thought i heard they made one
pankkake: I fail to see the centralization of ASICs. GPUs = AMD. that's it. CPU = 99% Intel.
pankkake: fluffypony: I think you mean 12-17 males :D
fluffypony: I don't consider the PoW particularly noteworthy
pankkake: so far the crypto world managed to move to better algorithms before attacks were economically interesting. I don't see it changing
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I was just reading about that today (in the context of "Bitcoin will die because quantum computer!!!111") - general idea is that a hard fork to something different if quantum computing was imminent would solve that
thestringpuller: I may have just gone when the trolls were in there.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: in this specific case I don't know if you can call it an altcoin; it shares no common code with Bitcoin and has a completely different protocol / way of storing the blockchain / etc.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: The last time I was in -otc I don't think I had to linger more than half an hour to unload all the paypal I was burdened with
fluffypony: benkay: that's moot, I'm already heavily invested in BTC (the equivalent of "learn Common Lisp" by analogy), finding Monero interesting and possibly worthwhile does not change my position on BTC but is, rather, a direct result of the knowledge already accumulated
benkay: ugh i am so sorry
benkay: A "new" languagewait hang on asciilifeform i'm thinking about
ThickAsThieves: and last I heard that was a losing proposition too
ThickAsThieves: yes, i was on AM board, but that's falling a bit out of the context I was mentioned in
Apocalyptic: I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. // you were on the board of ASICMINER weren't you ?
Apocalyptic: i'm somehow oblivious to the fact people prefer btc-e & scammy exchanges
ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space. /// I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. Never sold or represented any hardware or tech.
dexX7: i heard ltc is going to be listed on mtgox next month
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: Monero is different - I tend to abandon the rest because they're all Bitcoin forks
fluffypony: unrelated, I've held BTC for ages
fluffypony: everything else I will dabble in, but I'm in and out within a month or two at the most
fluffypony: the only coin I hold long term is BTC
thestringpuller: you said you mined? or am i confused
fluffypony: and I liquidated that in December when LTC spiked
fluffypony: the last time I had LTC was when burnside refunded me my listing fee for ltcglobal
fluffypony: thestringpuller: I haven't held LTC for ages
danielpbarron: and i'm like "NO! DANGER!"
danielpbarron: i've had multiple face-to-face interactions in which the other guy expressed interest in buying mining equipment for doge or the like
danielpbarron: obviously it's not all a scam, but everything i see talked about seems to be a scam
Apocalyptic: (those I know who have a WoT that is)
danielpbarron: i can't do that kind of volume anyway
Apocalyptic: <danielpbarron> i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail // some do
danielpbarron: i probably still wouldn't insure
danielpbarron: i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail
thestringpuller: The mining pools seem to directly sell to market, but I don't trust exchanges.
thestringpuller: oh I was thinking btc lol