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mircea_popescu: Dimsler is a beta orbiter what i imagine it is ?

BCB: mircea_popescu: ha. Everybody is a fucking expert these days

mircea_popescu: BCB that's the tell tale sign of a good btc expert

mircea_popescu: it's just that the gear switch from derpyland to btcland is bound to culture shock a little.

ben_vulpes: nah, i just have a lot of man beef.

JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu u guys seem to have personal man beef with a lot of these ppl. this is where being a blonde girl helps, no egos.

JuliaTourianski_: he thought he was immune and he wasn't . lesson learned maybe. he's a good guy, ppl make mistakes

mircea_popescu: and now he'll make a career out of prison lyf.

mircea_popescu: it's not that "he worked" and "thinking" etc. he made a career out of thinking he knows better than me,

Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, how about shrem is a rat

BCB: for copping a plea and being an informant

mircea_popescu: a bottle of wine does not cancel out a cupful of sewage.,

JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu there are a lot of ppl in the vid. the non scammers whoever u may think they are cancel out the scammers, whoever u think they are

Dimsler: funded a tonne of silkroaders

mircea_popescu: a point shrem is not able to regret enough.

mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ take the case of jeff. he's an idiot, and now a fraudster. not for any reason than misassociation.

BCB: mircea_popescu: he has a broad knowledge of the bitcoin echosphere. Have you ever meet him in person?

Dimsler: Tolstoy is a good writer

BCB: mircea_popescu: I don't buy Etherium and I have know idea of his coding skills but he is a good writer.

Dimsler: he sold all his bitcoins for a few t-shirts

JuliaTourianski_: anyways. my point is, look at the big picture. there are good people in the declaration vid. most importantly it's a message I strongly believe in. so scammers or not, the message stays the same.

danielpbarron: well he's smart enough to figure out a way to get 30k BTC out of all the fools who aren't patient enough to just buy Bitcoin and hold it

Dimsler: man didn't amir lose a toe or something

Dimsler: ethereium is a joke

Dimsler: vitalik is not a smart guy

BCB: mircea_popescu: Vitalik is a smart guy

Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, vitalik is a complete moron

danielpbarron: lol, "berwick is berwick." the polite way to say someone is a weirdo

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2014 23:30:06; mike_c: armory phones home with a hash of your home directory

JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla amir is a ot a scammer. alex...I'm deciding on alex. ive spoken to him personally since, and I dont like the direction he's going lately. berwick is berwick. how about the rest of the ppl in there? all scammers?

BingoBoingo: cazalla: Maybe she fell in with a rough crowd.

BingoBoingo: <JuliaTourianski_> I'm doing a guide on offline wallets using armory, and i was using armory for a year now and offered to do it. when that comes out u can say Trace Mayer is pulling my strings right? see how that works << Are you familiar with Armory's poor behavior?

JuliaTourianski_: I didn;t come out of "nowhere" i was a lib since HS

JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler I've been an anarchist a while. i was writing for mises.ca for a year prior to doing btc stuff

JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla we all started out as a novice. I wrote that myself. i was inspired and excited. that's all. i wanted to bring the community together :) it was fun. u dont need to trust it

JuliaTourianski_: I'm doing a guide on offline wallets using armory, and i was using armory for a year now and offered to do it. when that comes out u can say Trace Mayer is pulling my strings right? see how that works

Dimsler: seriously whose going to take a cute blonde girl seriously?

Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, no, its because you're a public figure

cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ as said vagina has nothing to do with it but a pretty girl is useful to get across the message, maybe you start making videos on ethereum soon?

JuliaTourianski_: it's not a sexist thing. it is what it is. it makes a difference both ways

Dimsler: no we don't care in here that you have a vagina

JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla would u think the same if I was a dude in a t-shirt?

JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler I'm friends with everyone in the declaration video..that's a lot of ppl, so whcih ones are pulling my strings? don;t cherry pick eh

Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, amir was cool when he wasn't a pure drughead

cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ given i've seen a lot of you and paul joseph watson (alex jones puppet), perhaps that is the direction i should start

JuliaTourianski_: you just dismissed a huge chunk of the btc space based on nothing.

HeySteve: the turbulence *should* stop it becoming a giant fish blender... might put on some kinda mesh just in case

HeySteve: yeah a motor to run an impeller with a tube to draw oxygen down to the blades, I believe it will work well

Dimsler: cazalla, Julia is a novice bitcoiner

cazalla: JuliaTourianski_, just a whisper, i hear it in my ghost but seriously, you never answered http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2014#839995 ☝︎

The20YearIRCloud: That's the more cost effective way to do it i think. I was looking at a 24/7 air compressor

The20YearIRCloud: I'm a real big fan of tilapia

HeySteve: well I know with fish, there's a method which achieves nearly 1:1 feed to weight conversion

cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ puppet comment leave you a little rustled?

The20YearIRCloud: and how many pounds of meat will they produce a month from the BSFL?

HeySteve: I've got a restaurant and greengrocer onboard for eg.

The20YearIRCloud: Wouldn't be a terrible thing if more places converted, but the problem starts to become that if you free-range animals (Cows and pigs, which are the largest waste producers by far), you can't effectively go out and get that waste

HeySteve: fishmeal has risen a lot this year: http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=fish-meal

HeySteve: a lot of animal feed is fish-based afaik

The20YearIRCloud: Assuming 100% of all animal waste is used as a food source for them.

The20YearIRCloud: 335m tons of manure is produced a year in the US, which would result in 67m tons of BSFL feedstock

The20YearIRCloud: They need 80kg+ to make ~17kg of feed per week. That's a great deal of waste.

Dimsler: and thats a 70/30 mix

The20YearIRCloud: Especially as a dried foodstock, i'm shocked though they estimate value at only $1/lb

kakobrekla: not much of a talker

HeySteve: you can put the chickens in a cage above the grubs to manage their waste

The20YearIRCloud: chicken love insects, i know quite a few people that feed almost exclusively scratch (no food)

HeySteve: this is a good guide: http://www.ie.unc.edu/for_students/courses/capstone/13/bsfl_how-to_guide.pdf

HeySteve: The20YearIRCloud yeah they're building a big facility in fluffypony's neck of the woods to supply animal feed to farmers here

The20YearIRCloud: The big thing about fish feed is that there are a few types that have very, very, very low protein inputs and thrive on waste anyway

ben_vulpes: i also suspect that skin oils make a nice little bottom layer

ben_vulpes: jurov: you're missing a duration qualifier there

ben_vulpes: "get a house, settle down, give up on fun, otherwise you're a retarded child." << Dimsler

Dimsler: its a little different

ben_vulpes: a few times yeah jurov

Dimsler: if you're 25 acting like a kid

The20YearIRCloud: Ok, so the flies do a similar thing to composting?

jurov: and inside it a small one

Dimsler: a cattle sized meat grinder

The20YearIRCloud: We've got a methane reactor on a farm here, doesn't use flies but produces a few KW of continuous power from a milk production

ben_vulpes: "hi i'm subjecting myself to burning man but i want a temperature regulated environment but i can't afford an rv RENTAL"

HeySteve: +The20YearIRCloud> One of the groups at my church goes to Africa every few years to teach people how to build basic water filters from sand/rocks/ect and when they do it , they save a immense number of lives due to cholera/disentery <- cool, here's something else you might be interested in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0d2EsVehQ

ben_vulpes: tents a shit

JuliaTourianski_: the hexayurt is a solution for emergency housing, refugee camps, and poverty housing. they do protect against extreme temperature changes, hence their use at burning man

ben_vulpes: or a thing that i can knock together in the middle of nowhere for next to nothing

mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud problem is it takes them about a month to build it.

The20YearIRCloud: You can teach a bunch of low/no education people how to make bricks in a week or two, and in a month show them how to make a house that will last 50-100 years

ben_vulpes: for a retarded markup

ben_vulpes: made by a giant corporation in the business of fabbing horrible shitboard boxes

ben_vulpes: i really need a pressed shitboard housebox

The20YearIRCloud: Clay works fine, heck even straw will be better, one US sized bale of straw has a R value of 9-10

The20YearIRCloud: I'm teaching a class on basic mechanics/machines, and it's amazing how many people out there don't understand how anything works

The20YearIRCloud: I have a fix for that too - simple education

bounce: well, nasa has a fix for that

The20YearIRCloud: Compost toilets are fine, any kind of containment system for sewage is just fine, but half the world doesn't realize that keeping your septic and your water in the same place is a bad thing

The20YearIRCloud: You can make a water filter for nothing that filters 99.99% of all contaminants

The20YearIRCloud: Sure they can, if they know how to do it, but it's always amazing how many people out there don't understand a dang thing

The20YearIRCloud: One of the groups at my church goes to Africa every few years to teach people how to build basic water filters from sand/rocks/ect and when they do it , they save a immense number of lives due to cholera/disentery

JuliaTourianski_: For hexayurts fabricated from four-by-eight foot sheets of foam or hexacomb cardboard and duct tape, the cost has been estimated at $1,000 each (compared to $30,000 for a FEMA trailer). Hexayurts fabricated from OSB and wooden blocks can cost as little as $250–300.

mircea_popescu: ok so basically this is a cheap temporary shelter solution ?