asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu is not the only one who wasn't impressed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: according to the historical docs, the sites in question were rated for particular 'overpressures' - and some were 'graded down' upon inspection after constructed
asciilifeform: and hence are more or less stuck with 1840s state of the art
asciilifeform: who lack Pd/Pt catalysts, high-pressure vessels, even a proper vacuum
asciilifeform: PeterL: 40% is a dream for 'cellar chemists'
asciilifeform: and not only for dope. in usa restaurants have been selling 'fashionable' multi-grain bread. which i fully expect is made from shavings of cutting other kinds of bread at the bakeries
asciilifeform: aha refinement waste, yes, also exists
asciilifeform: (anybody else here take o-chem in school... other than PeterL and i)
asciilifeform: hence for every type of -synthetic- (vs. refined from vegetation) dope, there is at least one 'krokodilian' variant where the folks making it didn't see it fit to bother with this detail.
asciilifeform: some of the costliest operations in traditional pharma industry are recrystallizations/purifications
asciilifeform: the basic concept, as PeterL (chemist?) will attest, is that a synthesis doesn't necessarily (and most often) produce only one thing. each step will result in one or more unwanted substances, including everything that failed to react in previous steps
asciilifeform: 'the only winning move is: not to play'
asciilifeform: or rather, the answer from the film 'war games'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to which there is no answer
asciilifeform: 'stronger', if means anything, probably meant 'burns more when injected'
asciilifeform: fact is, every modern product 'for the poor' is a kind of krokodil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.'
asciilifeform: not because harder to synthesize, but because not a performance-enhancer that sets one going strong in the kitchen thinking of new methods
asciilifeform: nubbins`: when opiates took off, the approach failed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no idea. the woman - cooks
asciilifeform: (the first popular dope in ussr was what is today called meth, but there was no market in the usual sense. folks who took it, usually made it)
asciilifeform: i've always wondered why american dope aficionados don't follow the 1980s soviet example and all switch to making (or at least refining) what they use personally
asciilifeform read up on the cocaine vaccine thing. will note that even if it works as claimed (no blood-brain barrier penetration) - the net effect, if everybody were injected, is simply to multiply the standard dose of coke for man by 1.5x or so
asciilifeform: i caught myself wondering if it was designed in 'ms paint'
asciilifeform: big enough to see from musketry range
asciilifeform: i occasionally dig into vintage u.s. newspapers, magazines. interestingly, army ads from the '50s-'60s dwell on the 'sharp look' of the uniform.
asciilifeform: the schizoid apathy, insensitivity and lack of empathy that could hardly be more extreme in a frank psychotic' << could be a description of virtually any
asciilifeform: 'In all of the discussions, Höss is quite matter-of-fact and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would have occurred to him if somebody hadn’t asked him. There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse and even the prospect of hanging does not unduly stress him. One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually normal, but with
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plagiarizes - lol. where in the world were the first modern gassings? not germany
asciilifeform: they do not wear sidearms inside the 'wire'.
asciilifeform: incidentally modern jailers learned from this and other historical lulz
