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thestringpuller: http://bitbet.us/bet/749/?ref=173UtFc8KyVAkvGvHhpB3wFvYaNqNujDB8 << that's a good one
bounce: both usa ("nstic") and eu are working on "internet passports", have been for a while too.
thestringpuller: now meeting in #b-a
ben_vulpes: consider though, the coin whose owner controls its network. 'mpexcoin' vs. 'goxcoin'. one trades at an indistinguishable discount (mp claims premium) from market, the other traded at a notable discount (eventually).
ben_vulpes: <decimation> mp_colonist: that's an interesting thought, you are probably right. it also makes the actions of the west w.r.t. money obviously 'dishonorable' << zero, one, infinity. a good wot may grant you a coin of honor.
gribble: Error: 'Wood' is not a valid price input.
ben_vulpes: remember that you're the one who insisted on taking a dependency on the aforementioned heathens.
xmj: PayPal is one of the most annoyingly law-compliant payment processors I know. Their adding BTC cannot be a good sign
BingoBoingo: Still I lean towards choosing market as a dog turd vendor likely won't last long.
BingoBoingo: Maybe I have a future processing cashews?
ben_vulpes: a no scuse me 'gold'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'choose from where you will eat $mysteryobject - from vegetable market, or city dump.' I may be a poor subject for this one... I sometime pick Toxicodendron radicans for personal consumption
asciilifeform: (note that you could just as easily end up eating a dog turd from the market and a blade of grass from the dump)
ben_vulpes: <mp_colonist> +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?! << read it again, and that to which it's a response.
BingoBoingo: That, and that is a luxury of handling wetware in that case.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You dog is from a breed that requires low derp, yes?
ben_vulpes: " On January 17, 1995, Intel announced a pre-tax charge of $475 million against earnings" << convenient
BingoBoingo: At one point this was a scandal >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> genealogy? << WIth wetware this is a deciding factor...
BingoBoingo: Fucking Rasberry Pi is a thing, and consumer MIPS boards are a mirage that require bending FPGA's to shape.
BingoBoingo: Jobs turned Sun OS into OS X, Google turned OpenBSD libc on lunix to make Android. THe world turns, everydog becomes a mutt. And no one cares for generology anymoar!
gribble: Error: "gpginfo" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
ben_vulpes: it's a convenient chumpatron - both my shartup short and the touchscreen phenom.
ben_vulpes: forty (billed) minutes later, i have a combudder as what can make 'iOS 8' things happen to...shit i don't even know how it happens to other devices.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> be glad for the bell. << amen. i recently undertook to build a piece of 'golden cage' 'software' to ship over to a client. required 'upgrading' 'xcode', which required 'upgrading' 'os x', a thing i'd been avoiding on principle as the bell shows up every time i plug the shitbox in.
mp_colonist: take haakon and cortez. one is part of a tradition reflective of the edda.
mp_colonist: "a trained whore with five years' brothel experience would never etc etc"
asciilifeform: e.g. she is sitting on a sharp stake. (probably was not inserted by request) - so perhaps not having fun
asciilifeform: but, positing the fun (vs a taxidermic skin of fun) you can catalogue observables.
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, if you see a woman moaning can you tell if she's having an orgasm ?
BingoBoingo: phenomenology as its own prior seems a distinctly French/German affliction
mp_colonist: in any case this civ outlook, with phenomenology as a problem to be solved is entirely new.
asciilifeform has no pretenses of ability to look human to cortez, haakon, -- or even a man like isambard brunel, bridge-builder.
BingoBoingo: decimation> so perhaps the analogy is something like how cortez would have perceived the aztecs, derpy pagan losers who had a 'civilization' that fell to his merry band << Cortex succeeded in pressingneighbor against neighbor
decimation: so perhaps the analogy is something like how cortez would have perceived the aztecs, derpy pagan losers who had a 'civilization' that fell to his merry band
asciilifeform: the menacing zek on the cover is a real riot, considering how sympathetic the creatures in this book are (compared to russian zeks described in corresponding tomes)
assbot: Rape as a disciplinary tactic - Salon.com
asciilifeform: describes a watered-down version of the ritual and its sequelae.
asciilifeform: but possibly as result of a 'loss of maleness' event of some category
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is a ritual, in a great many cultures, whereby a miscreant (not necessarily inclined to be buggered originally) is 'lowered into pederasty' - normally as a punishment
mp_colonist: actually this could be a decent counterpart to svjek story, "rothgar the barbarian in modern day malmo".
asciilifeform: 'not a number'
asciilifeform: dishonour on a nithling is like a papercut on a flayed corpse
mp_colonist: dishonor is a different category, in that it's an affliction of the strong.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you are inventor, gruntwork (of the kind involved in achieving almost anything substantial with existing computer systems) is a monumental torture.
mp_colonist: you can't be a mpist just because my beard gives you a hardon
mp_colonist: he's not a platonist inasmuch as he's not read or understood plato
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: the man is a geologist (as far as i can judge - a good one) and an amateur scholar of crackpottery. no pretenses at being a monumental philosopher.
decimation: whereas most users of mathematica probably go out of their way (rejecting alternatives) to buy a license (using usg's money of course)
mp_colonist: i might, but the problem is that he's attacking a high level problem and lacks the basics
mp_colonist: "metaphisics by [dubious] scientists - we've not figured anything positive on our own so here's what we got to say about a whole subject we never formally studied"
decimation: I suspect a major part of the motivation for 'matlab clone' is that young programmers have matlab stuff down their throats, as explained above
mp_colonist: about on par with a sex treatise by a typical 17 yo
asciilifeform: decimation: university labs are given a 'complete package' with instrument libraries, etc.; students forced to use.
asciilifeform: that isn't really a complete picture.
decimation: asciilifeform: I can open a png in an emacs buffer ;)
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah you are right of course. matlab has a 'symbolic' toolbox but the actual programming language is not the same at all
mats_cd03: now thats a zinger
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: Apparently there was at least a hint of the discussion http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2014#618044 ☝︎
asciilifeform: (forget 'w. alpha', it's a clown show) mathematica - is example of a product for which not even a vaguely passable (to aficionado) alternative exists, at any price point
mp_colonist: it's a sad feeling.
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist> try having your pecker in a mouth four a few hours a day for a few days and see what sore truely means << Wasn't this limiting factor discussed this spring?
decimation: or a statue of yourself
mp_colonist: try having your pecker in a mouth four a few hours a day for a few days and see what sore truely means
asciilifeform: where he could easily ask most of the hardcore users to suck his cock as a condition of license renewal - and many would.
asciilifeform: i linked to the film not because anything in it is new (the maniac renamed the product after himself, for no reason, but this is uninteresting) but to demonstrate a genuine monopoly product
BingoBoingo: <decimation> right, but in a restaurant you don't have one guy who eats 80% of the food and everyone else eats peanuts << Not undeard of
decimation: right, but in a restaurant you don't have one guy who eats 80% of the food and everyone else eats peanuts
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: wolfram corp. is quite unlike a restaurant
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, you know, this strikes me as kinda silly. a la restaurant that will mistreat customers ordering $7 worth of coffee because they didn't buy $40 worth of pizza or w/e
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: i am very glad they did not fix. relying on black box turd for a critical piece of mechanics was stupid, and it was necessary to pay with suffering for it (did.)
BingoBoingo: <decimation> BingoBoingo: why not work for the library in exchange for money? << Managing paper is a dying niche
BingoBoingo: <mp_colonist> what sort of spite is this, "i won't clean the spinach between my teeth out of spite because you didn't buy me a ring" ? << Dangerous game, folates encourage bacteria and mycellium
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, what is supposed to be crazy about being at a desk ?
mp_colonist: what sort of spite is this, "i won't clean the spinach between my teeth out of spite because you didn't buy me a ring" ?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: perhaps out of spite. they flew sales-muppets to my lab hoping i'd buy a mega-cluster's worth of licenses. i didn;t.
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: usually, brain and a little google.
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: you have a bookmarks file with 5000 entries, or you just consult the google?
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, she's not ugly, she's a masseuse.
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: She also accused a stranger of assaulting her in a bar without evidence and was forced to drop it. To terrafoam and Vitamin H with her.
BingoBoingo: Fuck it, might as well get a boat
mp_colonist: +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?!
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, http://i.imgur.com/TpFJRiG.gif << mouse now has a counterparty.
mp_colonist: i suppose this is a good bezzle unit. whatscrap sold for .15 alibabas
BingoBoingo: <decimation> "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. " << Virtue of Alc
mp_colonist: hey what was that film with the zoo keeper that travels on a cargo ship with family ?
decimation: "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. "
BingoBoingo: It's just the darien sounds a lot like the classic design of a fish trap... And I ate the things in America Grad students can afford to eat.
mp_colonist: course the cheapest way is to just sign up as crew for a voyage.
mp_colonist: no. most cargo ships have a few passenger spots if you can eat crew grub
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I've heard passenger travel on cargo ships might be a thing. Know any decent internet write ups?
mp_colonist: decimation, ya know i think we lolled about this one maybe a year or so ago
decimation: it's pretty clear that stallman was a beta whiner 30 years ago too
BingoBoingo: A lot of limitations on people in urnanium mining are not radiation concerns alone, but also suffocation concerns.
decimation: BingoBoingo: it's possible a little bit of radiation is good for you, depending on who you ask
BingoBoingo: The part where in Iowa it takes something other than a study of the water table to determine if a basement is safe... Fuck we are so deep into the future.
hanbot: well, in a different kind of dirt
hanbot: BingoBoingo make a decent paperweight.
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> <thestringpuller> I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face. << ever see a face buried in sand? << In Josh's case that has to be glass by now