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mircea_popescu: if every wanna-be corp out there actually followed their model, shit would actually work!
mircea_popescu: and lemme say i can't recommend namesilo enough. they turned out to be exactly the needed pill, but their bitcoin integration is actually so good, it interfaces with deedbot directly!
mircea_popescu: it's the pinnacle of stupid to go "now that we do, we dun wanna".
mircea_popescu: that they might have ink and paper to write their things down
mircea_popescu: but yes, historically, this was the longest held and dearest desire of all thinking men buried before we came :
spyked: mircea_popescu, agreed. it's also what newton et al. used as a method and what academia could (I guess) have been if it hadn't devolved into the current shitshow.
mircea_popescu: spyked, it's just the secular, momentuous change of detaching documentation from success and attaching it to activitry plain and simple that's the major significance of current it.
mircea_popescu: yes, it is true, illo tempore, in ages long past, with expensive paper process, this was a useful approach. but today, it is counter-productive.
spyked: IMHO examination of failure also counts as "interesting"; mircea_popescu has plenty examples of that on trilema
mircea_popescu: i suppose this "document success only" heuristic is the one most poisonous gift society has to offer.
mircea_popescu: that's the logic : if it's worth doing, it's worth doing human-ly, which is to say reviewably ; and since one can't claim entire classes of fundamentals aren't wroth doing, the absence of X or Y topic is significant of weakness.
mircea_popescu: there's no specific rule that documentation must be limited to success.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 00:28:22 trinque: it's not IRC trivia that drives me away from you lot. it's the bizzare godman worship with *no intent whatsoever* to put in the work to make a red cent.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 09:53:42 trinque: on the blog front, I've got some weird brewing in response to the tlp seroquel annotation.
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930601 <-- the way I read mircea_popescu's comment re. blog was "if you're doing something interesting, then it's worth documenting". e.g. I know zilch about making red cents and would read if trinque found it worthwhile to write about his experience.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-27 12:51:02 mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:10:54 ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930885 <-- imho the right thing would be to eventually steal "everything". i'ma definitely do that for hunchentoot, tho I expect it'll take a while, given that I keep stumbling upon binaries and utfisms in these coads
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:10:54 ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:01:02 diana_coman: hm, not sure I follow what's the breakpoint of drive-trust at 100km
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 02:45:24 ave1_away: diana_coman: thx! I'm currently in the carpathian mountains, enjoying nature here
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930866 << you wanna have a cuppa coffee in timisoara sometime this coming week ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 00:22:59 asciilifeform: ( and if yer running a vpnism that tries to fulfill promise of 'no logs', you won't even know which user it was on acct of whom the upstream plug pulled )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930856 << yes. the empire of stupid may be ~ultimately~ stupid, but up to there it's constructively stupid, can't just wade in head on
mircea_popescu: it was, i guess, sorta pleasant to see the thing keep the pipe full at all times, 100s of conns, if you do the math that's 4232690270208000 bytes' worth of good films i contributed to the ethers.
mircea_popescu: NOTHING interesting turned up. i don't mean, "low five figures' worth of interesting". not a benjie's worth. feeding the-horde-that-expects-to-be-fed is not merely -ev. it is 0ev.)
mircea_popescu: (yes, believe it or not, i ran a "all films reviewed on trilema" server for like... a year. to see if anything interesting happens. major pipe and everything, came to high four figures all told, mostly hardware, soem sweat to get it up.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 00:18:11 asciilifeform: most immediately yes. current pipe would comfortably seat -- and that's if it were otherwise empty -- perhaps 4 or 5 warez leechers
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930853 << naah. when i set up my experimenta lfilm server, i had 1gpbs dedicated to it, and... FILLED.
mircea_popescu is rater on alf's side re vpn product notion ; though this may be borne of ignorance, i don't think i ever bought one.
mircea_popescu: all they need to say is hi!
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930831 << yes, but there's WAY the fuck better payoff for that "week or two" of effort than wiping a pizarro disk
mircea_popescu: all it wants is the hitlog.
mircea_popescu: re awstats : there's no rule you gotta run it on the machine i nquestion. awstats will process ~any~ log in most standard formats, can just have an awstats box.
mircea_popescu: this "Solve problems as you run into them, anything else is premature optimization" groove's apparently very easy to slip out of, but it is TRT.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 23:45:07 trinque: moreover are there enough customers that care?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930823 << this is the golden ticket here.
ave1_away: first genesis all the parts, next build scripts (if at all needed by then)
ave1_away: but then, while walking I thought, no, it needs to be the other way around
diana_coman: ave1_away: well, the build script requires all sorts so it makes sense to have as genesis a complete starting point if possible
ave1_away: and then have diffs of patch files
ave1_away: somehow, I was think that I should genesis the build script first
diana_coman: sounds clear and a firm starting point to work from at least
ave1_away: The build script will then be based on this genesis
ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
ave1_away: yes, train definitely sovjet experience
diana_coman: heh, comes with nice meal from wood fire (and the smoke too, came instantly to mind )
ave1_away: Currenlty we've been using the train for long distance
ave1_away: most taxis here, cars from early nighties, non working suspension, no belts etc.
ave1_away: well, drive locally where they know their way vs drive further, 100km simply magical cutt-off in my brain
diana_coman: strictly on the face of it, you'd just move by 100km per taxi then, lol.
diana_coman: hm, not sure I follow what's the breakpoint of drive-trust at 100km
ave1_away: taxis are not expensive at all, but I did not yet find one I would trust to drive me more than 100km
ave1_away: even with all the walking, I'm fattening up nicely
ave1_away: My days this week will be very much; get up / shower, enjoy big breakfast, enjoy long walk in the mountains, swimming, nice meal from wood fire, get to bed and fall asleep immediately
diana_coman: ave1_away: taxis shouldn't be all that expensive either
ave1_away: Or see about renting something big, the way these orcs drive
ave1_away: I'm thinking of going here by car next year, wich would make us a lot more flexible
ave1_away: No, unfortunately not on this trip. Ukrainian part is big enogh for now
a111: Logged on 2019-08-24 16:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930573 << why 'ask alf if we have multithreading on ARM', ffs, it was ave1's piece (and he seems to have awol again), afaik no one even has it on operating table atm
diana_coman: oh hey, nice! going to Ro too?
ave1_away: diana_coman: thx! I'm currently in the carpathian mountains, enjoying nature here
asciilifeform: ty for picking up the puzzler. fwiw i think erry day about it, but not made anyffin that could be termed breakthrough.
asciilifeform: nighty trinque
trinque: going to turn in for now, night.
trinque: this is possible. I'll think on it more.
asciilifeform: i entirely wouldnt mind trying to serve that market; but suspect that it would need to be done from pyongyang, rather than montevideo.
asciilifeform: ( and if yer running a vpnism that tries to fulfill promise of 'no logs', you won't even know which user it was on acct of whom the upstream plug pulled )
asciilifeform: this also touches so far strictly cost of pipe, and omits cost of disposal of the 1st 'genius' who starts serving 'pedo club' or spam emporium or whatever other attractive nuisance via his acct
asciilifeform: each of whom would be willing to pay perhaps even equiv of 20bux/mo. i.e. collectively not even 10% cost of that pipe ..
asciilifeform: most immediately yes. current pipe would comfortably seat -- and that's if it were otherwise empty -- perhaps 4 or 5 warez leechers
trinque: current limiter is the lack of fat pipe, eh?
asciilifeform: trinque: re 'build for from whom', i cannot possibly disagree. but extremely skeptical that vpnism ~can~ be supplied economically by honest (i.e. not subsidized by washington) vendor, even in principle.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 23:57:09 trinque: I'm not addressing whether he actually needs a VPN, but how hard is it to take p crypto and make a VPN?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930840 << this is interesting enuff to merit own answer. on 3Ghz opteron, and with bvt's asm , could perhaps get even 28 kbaud ! of rsa..
trinque: you should build for from whom you wish to take money, not yourself
asciilifeform: trinque: that being said, mircea_popescu's 'uci' is prolly closest thing to 'sane vpn'. but not exactly in scope of piz, we dun have a fleet of 1e6 pwned boxen or anyffin of the kind.
asciilifeform: observe that a literate user leasing a whole box, can trivially use it to forward his packets wherever. but turn-key 'service' of this, draws 9000 units of fire for erry unit of profit, by attracting the redditus. there's a reason why all existing vpnisms are honeypots , underwritten by usg moar or less directly.
asciilifeform: there's defo a... market, for vpnism, just like there is a market for 'mail drops' to relay goods bought with stolen cc's, etc. just not clear that it's a market you'd want to be involved in.
trinque: I'm curious whether there's a market for the VPN item. gets the republican network layer paid for, if so.
trinque: I'm not addressing whether he actually needs a VPN, but how hard is it to take p crypto and make a VPN?
asciilifeform: trinque: atm there is 'wp service'. can't presently think what else could offer
asciilifeform: reliably good for 5-6 lethal 0day erry month, these
trinque: ever considered offering specific services rather than commodity server boxen?
trinque: no real proposal here other than to do what others do.
asciilifeform: and, moreover, leave 0 footprint of just-which user set off the boojum.
trinque: just depends on where you want the bar
asciilifeform: trinque: the namespaces thing does 0 against kernel privescs. which are ~dime/dozen.
trinque: could just use the linux "namespaces" thing
asciilifeform: trinque: was thinking of vandalism-isolation, rather than cryptologic.
trinque: moreover are there enough customers that care?
trinque: I mean, my inner emulated asciilifeform says there's no such thing as isolated sessions on shared hardware
asciilifeform: asciilifeform attempted frontal attack of ^ problem, but broke teeth, 0 to show for it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-24 12:01:18 asciilifeform: and atm 'back to chalkboard' re how to answer it
trinque: have awstats on the site or anything?
asciilifeform: meanwhile: today's trilemalotto .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 10:31:24 mircea_popescu: there's literally no limit in anyone's way and all i hear for the past month is butthurt over "abuse" "cults" "worship" etcetera. what the fuck already, whole idea's a) do something ; b) show people ; c) get ~useful~ feedback. this cycle ALWAYS worked to date, no exception, so the common mind response's to... stop engaging ? what, is failure such a delightful thing gotta SOMEHOW ensure it ?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930613 << to be clear, I'm not butthurt at mircea_popescu, nor criticizing him. I was taking shots at folks speaking importantly while this afaik important piece of republican infrastructure doesn't look too healthy.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 10:22:53 mircea_popescu: if you'd be interested in helping out on that front, it'll prolly be best if you actually get involved in the partnership outright. none of this "fix the website copy" "helping", erryone wants to do the "helping" of employees whereas republic needs independent men not wage slave wannabe's.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930608 << this is possible, but it wont be a good-money-after-bad thing, which is why I'm first yammering about what I want fixed, not throwing money.