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bounce has often enough wished for a nice "complete meal bar". rip open, munch, done with the food. though could never be arsed to go out and find something satisfying.
mats_cd03: there's a middle ground to be had
ben_vulpes: "arrayForth is a complete, interactive software development and debugging environment for GreenArrays Chips. It includes assembler/compiler, example source code including all ROM on each chip, a full software-level simulator for each chip, and an Interactive Development Environment for use with real chips. The latest release is configured by default for the EVB001 Evaluation Board, for which Virtual Machine support and other tools are
mircea_popescu: AND a woman ?
chetty: The next time Michelle Obama stands before an audience of countries where women are truly discriminated against—some forced to cover their entire bodies or have a male guardian with them in public—and complains that America struggles with “harmful cultural norms that tell women how they are expected to look and act,” forgive me if I’m a little embarrassed.
mircea_popescu: i'll just say hey, 2k a month was plenty 20 years ago
mircea_popescu: so nobody is complaining. like, i can hire someone for 2k a month because they won't complain.
bounce: there's some outsourcing (and grumbling the work coming back is sub-par) and some grumbling about "jobs lost" and such. but the spacex thing is relatively recent, and I haven't really noticed much drive to cut the costs of the various wars being waged, for example. it's just... lower taxes, spend more, run up a bigger debt bill.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need for rockets. you don't kill cockroaches with a .5
mircea_popescu: bounce right, "<mircea_popescu> it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane."
bounce: notice how india got there for less budget than that movie. and less than a third of a single "cheap, reusable" shuttle launch
chetty: unless of course some friendly aliens drop in and give us a ride :D
asciilifeform has eyes, sees that it isn't happening, quite a few missing pieces with nowhere to come from
mircea_popescu: yes well, people don't undergo centuriesd of expense to fulfil a cartoon dream.
mircea_popescu: no way in fuck you're going to be a "sovereign" on a planet you just colonised.
mircea_popescu: you could live on the antarctic right now, if you fancy paying 2k for a bottle of fizz.
mircea_popescu: unless there's a hospitable planet somewhere,
bounce: in the current set-up with deliberate inflation it's... not a good idea.
mats_cd03: the memory of your enemy on your shores is something that stays vivid for a long time
mircea_popescu: people can get by for a while just making good use of the history book.
mircea_popescu: chetty see ? what's in a novelty.
bounce: it'll be a while but it'll be stuck a goodly while too. a thousand years of stagnation they've already had.
mircea_popescu: there's no way to effectualy destroy these, and there's no way the us aircraft carriers could survive an hour in a hostile china sea.
mircea_popescu: chetty i will tell you one new idea they came up with. they made the astoundingly daring move of organising their defense on sane grounds. china is surrounded by about a million rockets.
mircea_popescu: careful management and patient attention is good enough for a lifetime.
chetty: inventiveness is not a high point of china, doubt they will come up with any new ideas
mircea_popescu: the romans lived a millenium out of carefuly implementing the greek ideas.
mircea_popescu: china's parents woudn't approve, and moreover china doesn't want to be either stupid or in possesison of a car wreckage.
mircea_popescu: even if the us imagines that now that china has the better car it should drive it the same way it drove its own, right into a wall.
bounce: at the same time they have a serious plaggiarism problem (they copied "publish or perish" too, bwahahaha) so long term they're risking stagnation
mircea_popescu: quite far from a theory, this.
mircea_popescu: if you pour from a to b but never from b to a, you can bet your ears b's gonna be fuller.
bounce: if by "lead" meaning "has a copy of the plans and can cherry-pick the ones that work", yes
mircea_popescu: it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane.
bounce: also, we are running headlong into the aging workforce problem now; china has a while to fix it and by that time can steal all those smart carebots the japanese are building
bounce: on another note, we've had quite a lot of skillfully-hidden-in-the-numbers inflation that's well above the official growth rates. thus depleting both savings and hiding an effective economic decline
mircea_popescu: bounce you will have to appreciate idiot western peoples, even without any help from the propaganda machine, automatically interpret phenomena in a certain key.
bounce: meh. I thought that china /wanted/ a smaller population which naturally includes a smaller workforce. so how that's now a problem eludes me. unless "economic growth" is part of your religion, perhaps.
mats_cd03: a society designed for rigor mortis, in some ways
chetty: dont think the issue of lots of extra menn has come up before, might twist traditions a bit
mircea_popescu: china is traditionally a sort of dog vomit (the fungus). it doesn't really war.
mats_cd03: i guess there are going to be a lot of gay chinese men in that generation
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 yeah hk sovereignity is a doomed proposition
mats_cd03: theres even a ribbon now! wear a yellow ribbon, for democracy in hong kong.
mats_cd03: im seeing a lot of rabble rousing over democracy in hk from my WoT
mircea_popescu: "Programmers have indeed created a universe where "science doesn't work." Learning where the permanent bugs and workarounds are inside a phonebook-length API teaches you nothing. It is anti-knowledge. Where your mind could have instead held something lastingly useful or truly beautiful, there is now garbage."
Vexual: well ill double the number of goats i can peel a day
mircea_popescu: so the latest revision of the dsm crapolade actually lists relationship ~intensity~ as a clinical pathology.
Vexual: you're not a script kiddie til vex is your step dad
mircea_popescu: cazalla if you're going there for a massage you get a massage. if you're going there for a blowjob you get a blowjob
cazalla: so are they legit massage or topless asian student gives ya a handy massage?
cazalla: so these massage adverts online, are you meant to read between the lines when it says not a sexual service?
Vexual: bought a lambourghini with internet moeny too
Vexual: hes actually got a fine business model
Vexual: i had a look, the cats a bit mental
BingoBoingo: Oh is a website being DDos'd
mircea_popescu: <mats_cd03> i developed a talent for checking out with my eyes open while standing up, though. << this has been a 100 year tradition
mircea_popescu: <decimation> my personal opinion is that something bad happened on the jet, oxygen got sucked out before anyone could do much, becomes 'death ship' << <nah trhey have a whole system with masks etc.
RagnarDanneskjol: i forget how great a guitar playr he is
Vexual: were you holding a shovel?
RagnarDanneskjol: whats the name of that band you posted video a few weeks ago. dopey looking guys 80s band on top of a hotel - i recognized them but forgot. good song i hadnt heard in decades
Vexual: i made a piss poor attempt
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piss%20poor | 1)im gonna be piss poor this month since i spent all my paycheck on crack. 2)I hired someone to paint my car but they did a piss poor job. by mullett December ...
Vexual: ^thats a vexualism; you can
Vexual: like 6 months of pascal with a pen?
decimation: asciilifeform: that's a pretty likely hypothesis
Vexual: and how many from 15k are worth a pinch of shit?
gribble: Error: "date" is not a valid command.
mats_cd03: not a very good one, by some accounts, but still
mats_cd03: because they've managed to create a talent vortex in SV
mats_cd03: apple's burning cash building a new campus next to cupertino village
decimation: in ancient Rome the equivalent would be how to consult the entrails of a chicken to see if the gods are pleased
mats_cd03: i developed a talent for checking out with my eyes open while standing up, though.
decimation: I had a friend who was white, married a black woman. he still had to go to the mandatory racial sensitivity class
mats_cd03: there were a lot of those time wasters.
mats_cd03: a contractor i worked with had a hearing implant
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, decimation: usg has a famous, traditional limit for number of top bureaucrats in one square km.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Interesting place to put a limit
mircea_popescu: but by the age of infertility one'd expect even a libertard to wisen up a little.
mircea_popescu: she's been doing this for a while now.
bounce: the immediate risk is that they'll be insufferable for a goodly while.
Vexual: yeah, the costs of throwing a can of jolt at a $2000 lcd have gone up too, and you need better aim
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> bounce it gets complicated, obviously. tbh i don't have atm an opinion on the libre thing << My read. Watch the chopping for a year or two and see what happens.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they could it as however many gates it is made of. and conveniently forget to mention that they can't be rewired using the switching matrix (only a rather smallish number of 'generic' gates can)
bounce: ultimately the APIs it offers need to go since they're badly designed and tricky to use correctly. but you can't exactly do that for a drop-in replacement. this is a low-hanging fruit approach. though the new crew is IMO a better deal than throwing money at the guys that made such a mess of it, as google et al did.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> counting a shifter as 'xxx gates' worth << how the fuck does that work. bit register shifting ?
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> dare to continue as is, you will, sooner or later, find yourself on the list. << this is a valid concern.
mircea_popescu: it's a benefit.
mircea_popescu: we have an ample overabundance of both humans and capital goods. why is excluding all the vendors or all the social mediated shitheads a cost ?
mircea_popescu: <bounce> but an overly large list would be counter-productive; a valid concern. << counterproductive in what sense ?
mircea_popescu: bounce isn't it incredible how readily a circlejerk is formed
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the problem is that nearly all hardware vendors would be on the list too << how i this a problem ?
mircea_popescu: any pig may take a piss on the blade late december. whether he does or does not, come christmas...
mircea_popescu: tasting othe rpeople's shit is a valued skill
mircea_popescu: nobdy gives a shit about the author. writing software is like taking a shit, worthless.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: the next step: somehow get a unix distribution that completely excludes contributions from the lustration list << i still think the correct solution is a github that does signed reads
mircea_popescu: it's incredible anyone seriously takes its author for a coder.
asciilifeform: decimation: just as a cockroach in your kitchen means, inescapably, that not far from it there is a seething brown mass of his brothers.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah that appears to be the situation. I don't understand how a gui desktop 'requires' a particular init system <<< join the conga line heh.
mats_cd03: turns right back into shit after a few hours