asciilifeform: compared to american ic of the modern type, of that period

asciilifeform: one can safely guess that it was pants-creamingly cheap

asciilifeform: i should like to learn how these were assembled.

asciilifeform: if one were to read the data sheet (scan, http://www.155la3.ru/datafiles/2lb402_tu_1975.pdf ) will find that it had around 50-60 nSec propagation delay. which is pretty good for the period

asciilifeform: (ru sub, howard hughes and his record-breaking salvage boat, famous project)

asciilifeform: for some reason the theft of several examples of these curios by usg from sunken submarine is still considered a deep secret in usa

asciilifeform: when i was a boy, these were being sold, laid on carpets in the town market, right next to rabbits and dogs

asciilifeform: pictured device is a half-adder

asciilifeform: unrelated, and for aficionados only: re: the old 'integrated circuits by hand' thread: http://www.155la3.ru/k240.htm

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: related field - stage magic

asciilifeform: solution?

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: "great idea" << nope

asciilifeform: surprising that this isn't a more common tack for these

asciilifeform: ^ was my guess

asciilifeform: http://www.laverdad.es/gente-estilo/201502/16/detienen-mujer-masturbarse-cine-20150216133322.html

asciilifeform: spam like a pro, usg.

asciilifeform: lol, virtually undisguised usg muppetronics

asciilifeform head-desks

asciilifeform: punkman: even worse

asciilifeform: fuck - with the thickest stake in the wallachian forests - the people who brand every idiot ubuntu rebrand as an 'os'

asciilifeform to bed

asciilifeform: closed turd?

asciilifeform: and... whatever that was.. doesn't ?

asciilifeform doesn't know precisely what is involved, but imagines that it's a rather dreary thing

asciilifeform: drink?

asciilifeform: the cockroaches take over - they will build.

asciilifeform: '

asciilifeform: and i say to him 'no, and probably never, need 1+ yr when i don't have to think about work even once;

asciilifeform: i have a friend whom i see very rarely, and often asks about 'the elephant trunk'

asciilifeform: (no, this is not in his materials, don't bother looking, merely pointing out that the fella who discovered rotating magnetic field application could have made the next step and went here)

asciilifeform: otherwise all of the parts were available to him

asciilifeform: didn't have a pc

asciilifeform: only reason tesla didn't build it

asciilifeform: so geometry is not static

asciilifeform: (that being the point)

asciilifeform: realize, it flexes

asciilifeform: the ones where 'the devil lives'

asciilifeform: the details

asciilifeform: work it out yourself if you like

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: perhaps same division that built al's thing.

asciilifeform: and i sincerely hope they do.

asciilifeform: this should be enough for chinese or north kr skunk works to build it.

asciilifeform: except you don't have a rotor or stator as such, they're dynamically 'moving' via phase shifting

asciilifeform: that is, rotating field.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic idea, if you recall, was same as in ordinary ac motor

asciilifeform: nightie

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's your finger made of ?

asciilifeform: for another, spilled to various folks in periphery of academwot

asciilifeform: because i spilled it here, for one thing

asciilifeform did look

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the only place the required - non-negotiably - tech exists - is in my skullcase.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doing any of it with mechanical articulation is a sad joke

asciilifeform: (yes i can buy a 4-axis arm from fujitsu, and it'll do same thing as in 1969, whoopie)

asciilifeform: and cargokultism

asciilifeform: until then it's makework

asciilifeform: when somebody so much as asks, i'll believe there's life in 'robotics';

asciilifeform: for the cost of a length of copper cable.

asciilifeform: y'know, the one where you can have arbitrary jointless articulation without precision parts, lubrication, or freely moving parts at all

asciilifeform: wake me up when a roboticists asks me for the waveguide motor

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: (at the very minimum - of being a snore)

asciilifeform: i.e. if you can get printed there, you're suspect

asciilifeform: and i use extant academia as an antiwot

asciilifeform: same problem as aids test meaning here, that i'm much more interested in the folks left bugling in the dark

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'sexy' or not

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's got death, no ?

asciilifeform: it has same problem as the aids test

asciilifeform: which means that these folks weren't total islands

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the way it worked (works? i think, still exists?) is via a kind of secret wot

asciilifeform: and can it be a t-34

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when do i get to die in a tank

asciilifeform not insisting it had a 0% coefficient of useful work

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: or would've been golden with or without

asciilifeform: did he need it ?

asciilifeform: street urchin

asciilifeform: as in, not at all before

asciilifeform: yes but how many respectable -after- the prize and not before

asciilifeform doesn't like sc4mz0rz

asciilifeform: that is, cribbed 'macsyma' and passed off as own work

asciilifeform: iirc he was already rich from scamming

asciilifeform: designed to what ?

asciilifeform: all summed to zero.

asciilifeform: just that none of the folks involved, afaik, coughed up anything i'd miss if it were thermonuked

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no objection as such, aside from 'gimme'

asciilifeform: thought i wouldn't find out.

asciilifeform: knew about the 'little problem' and said nothing when commissioning the work

asciilifeform: but he tried to convince me to participate in a sc4m4tr0n

asciilifeform: which was painful because he was a family friend and a man i respected

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had to refuse the client

asciilifeform: cribbed from public domain libs, quite unrelated to the actual project, passed off as 'new'

asciilifeform: and that the same happened again after he fired the first set and replaced entire staff ?

asciilifeform: did i ever tell the tale of how i was once about to do a little consulting for an engineering prof, and discovered that the code that implemented 'his' algo was plagiarized wholesale by his students?

asciilifeform: ask a college prof

asciilifeform: almost invariably 'high powered' kids in usa are simply cribbing mindlessly

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i bet you could toss 19 out of 20 of'em for this

asciilifeform: i bet they're NDA'd etc. but if you turn the screws, can probably find out.

asciilifeform: and if so, for what.