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asciilifeform: some reason i imagined sport bets were a 'major thing' (not for me personally, but for a mythical 'unwashed mass waiting to arise')
mircea_popescu: the way I figure it, if the wc set fails to attract 500 btc total pool, we'll just ditch sports as a category and mostly reject all proposed sports bet without zeroconf
mircea_popescu: mike_c a that's true. so i guess 5.
diametric: i can't wait for the berkshire bet to resolve.
kakobrekla: i think lots of such people moved to seo and such
mircea_popescu: i guess so. sad.
mircea_popescu: maybe in the meanwhile it died, i dunno. probable, judging by the fact that everyone i used to know back then is off the grid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't even know what the state of the industry is anymore. 20 years ago you had the legitimate folk and then the dumb noobs pretending, much like in bitcoin
nubbins`: i swear i didn't confuse argentina with chile :(
nubbins`: also, what's pacific salmon like? i've only ever had atlantic :(
mircea_popescu: obviously also a great time to affliate bitbet, but then again, i couldn't even find an affiliate manager at all
mircea_popescu: but, let me point out, this is pretty horrible business for bitbet, per se. and obviously, i'll be using this data to inform further decisions on what to accept.
mircea_popescu: obviously mods wanted to consult. now, in the spirit of being in argentina and these people loving the wc, i ok'd the whole bulk
asciilifeform: 'I realized that I’ve never touched a fax machine before—that it’s as abstract, for me, as the laser guns...' << clearly never dealt with usg. fax is mandatory to this day!
Apocalyptic: I don't make my own teriyaki, sadly
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> why without the wine and spice ? // that's the way I learnt it
Apocalyptic: yeah, I often eat it raw
mircea_popescu: i wanna congratulat him on his atc purchase
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, the salmon looks really delicious, so far I knew how to cook a similar dish, without the wine and spice though
benkay: "yeah sure, i'll take whatever you throw at me."
mike_c: i like how the query parameters are order-dependent :D
benkay: i like this part of the logs where i can ignore the derping about some idiot trying to scam davout
assbot: kinoshitajona comments on [Serious] I couldn't answer this question when discussing Bitcoin with my Dad: Isn't it sometimes beneficial to allow governments to stabilise their currency if there is uncontrollable inflation/deflation due to unavoidable events? Wouldn't a global currency cause poorer countries to be left behind?
fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27ye08/serious_i_couldnt_answer_this_question_when/ci5peas
kakobrekla: if i would be the author if it, id kill myself.
moiety: i do but there's a lot of time left
kakobrekla: mike_c i just made your browser reload css
fluffypony: I think I'm going to try that this w/e and report back
mike_c: (latest?) chrome: http://i.imgur.com/9jfHPjY.png
kakobrekla: mike_c i see this in opera and chrome http://i.imgur.com/62OkoI9.png
moiety: honestly i wish id had the logs when i had no internet lol have you all settled in now then mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i wasn't in rift for about a month, people were throwing a fit
moiety: lolpretty much mircea_popescu i ran out of funds half way and was in this empty flat for a few days
moiety: I'm sorry i didn't even have email. flipping library is being refurbed. how is everyone?
mircea_popescu: lol so i moved across the ocean faster than you did across town ?
moiety: lol well i am finally in and almost out of the other one
moiety: i've had such a disater moving! i've had no internet
mircea_popescu: what was their round anyway ? i forget
ThickAsThieves: putting that VC money to use i guess
mircea_popescu: he got it pretty bad at some point i recall, what was it, 50 btc ?
mircea_popescu: i mean any half-literate scammer in sierra-leone can get a good flamewar raging for 500 pages in two weeks, the self appointed cream of teh internets slash intellectual core of progressivism can't even get to 12 ?!
fluffypony: third time I've made that mistake
TomServo: something awful, I would guess
mircea_popescu: I bought several at $1.000, many others at $550, but at the end, I am a looser in term of financial results.
fluffypony: "the price didn't move in the direction I expected in 6 months! suicide time!"
mircea_popescu: "I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me"
mircea_popescu: assbot: Dear conference organizers: my wife says I have enough t-shirts and you should start giving out trousers. Thank you for understanding. << lol someone ain't wearing undies ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2014#714444 << this "put hashes in bitcoin-asset's blockchain" is becoming fashionable i see. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't doubt he had 1k or so btc at some point, and i don't doubt he genuinely lost it somehow.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what to make of this personally. i kinda like phinn and all, but so far this claim of his is not going too far.
pankkake: but davout being a mod there, I don't trust him either!
mircea_popescu: I don't understand why phinnaeus would pay 400BTC for 50K$, but I can write the agreement with him and make the deal : Davout will send to trusted escrow 50K$ (in dollard or BTC) Phinnaeus will send to escrow 400 BTC when escrow have both, he will send me 400 BTC and send Phinnaeus is 50K$. I will then send 300 BTC to Davout. We will all waive the right to terminate this agreement and to all actions regarding the insta
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, frankenmint, Immukization, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, RainMan28, ryepdx, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and vexual.
mircea_popescu: i think it's discussed tbh.
davout: gotta get off, i'll be back later tonight if someone wants to discuss this further
fluffypony: chetty: I think so
fluffypony: kakobrekla: that's what I'm guessing
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah I'm talking purely about the way he's treating this particular issue, not in general
mircea_popescu: fluffypony generally i kinda like phinn, he's very diligent, quite passionate and an off the path sort of thinker
davout: also, for the sake of keeping a public record, the script i used to explore the blockchain in order to try and find his deposit address, none of the two i was looking for appeared
mircea_popescu: "I prefer to use Rassah as escrow"
mircea_popescu: "Ideally, I prefer to have the entire 1,132 BTC, sans the 400 BTC bounty amount, paid in full to me, but knowing that sometimes arbitration takes place, I'm willing to settle for a minimal amount, with anybody acting as liaison to broker their reward up to 100% of what I may finally recognize. The minimum I'm welling to settle for is $50K USD via BTC or fiat to compensate for my initial investment and the mega hours I
fluffypony: pankkake: I'm betting yes on "tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt"
mircea_popescu: no but i mean he makes these sentences that break my parser all the time
mircea_popescu: "Reserved to announced that I have reunited with my lost investment."
davout: i explained to him how a shared wallet works, later he refers to it as mumble-jumble
davout: i stopped answering him because i saw he could not grasp some very simple things
mircea_popescu: i see.
davout: i never said there was one, i said there had been an audit
davout: mircea_popescu fluffypony he can go ask jgarzik, the guy paid me 5678 BTC back in the day, also i got into bitcoin at such a time that i mined some blocks on a goddamn CPU
mircea_popescu: i don't see much substance to his claim it'd be coming out of 1DavouTAsveznCFHsz688xvbrRAq4u2qm8 going to 16d1yGrEDqSY1xhCnAUWrkahGY2mkWdAYk
davout: he even provides the exchange rate at the time, this way i'm sure it's not 2011 or whatever
davout: fluffypony: not the received total in a timeframe actually, the received total, and then i checked manually the actual deposits against these addresses
davout: mircea_popescu: no, because i checked for totals
fluffypony: every thread that's popped up that I've read has him claiming those two Instawallet URLs (plus a third that had 0.825 BTC or something that he disregards), but no further evidence
davout: once i had a massive collection of addresses i checked for an address whose received totals matched the balances he claimed, to no avail
davout: so i went there and used tracked all the addresses linked in any way to the unique IW cold storage address
davout: well that's kind of what i figured, and i also figured he'd be too dumb to explore the blockchain by himself
davout: the idea being that i could have checked against backups of bitcoind wallets as well with such an information
davout: i asked him "o hey, maybe it could help me if you gave me the deposit addresses"
davout: a month or two i think
davout: i tried to search by balances
davout: i tried to find partial url matches too
davout: i don't really recall from the top of my head
davout: one of the first things i thought of
davout: i checked for that against a few backups
mircea_popescu: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wOjCTy9_--/strfxwexmbgnjk7b4nus.jpg now vs then : http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--utwlJ8_1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihl9qhl9yy47q1axnuiv.jpg
Apocalyptic: "BTW, I would not rule out the possiblity that Boussac himself is a victim of davout to some extent" who's Boussac again ?
davout: i dunno, and tbh i would like to know too
davout: i mean "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM wallets WHERE key = '<phinns wallet key>'" == 0
mircea_popescu: his generative grammar is quite bizarre, i can't follow statements like "all three didn't" worth a crap.
blackwhite: i see
blackwhite: I have just been busy so primarily just reading once in a while. Was more involved earlier.
mircea_popescu: davout what's the backstory on "At the onset of the InstaWallet fiasco, all three URLs didn't have a bitcoin wallet associated with the generated pages. It wasn't till after I brought it to Boussac's attention that the lesser bitcoin-containing wallet was well-document that it mysterious had the associated wallet address visible on the URL generated site. This is why they refuse to release the name of the forensics aud
davout: he's a french guy that i've met a couple of times, also forumite
mircea_popescu: i feel so left out. who's sandokan ? other than some bollywood action star from the 80s
dub: ah, I was teetering that way but I err on the side of retard
kakobrekla: i cal also hold escrow
kakobrekla: i know some
starsoccer: you send him 50k USD then we split 400btc so you get 200btc and i get 200btc