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asciilifeform: users who want to verify blocks
mircea_popescu: users are forced to nothing.
asciilifeform: as i currently understand it, mircea_popescu's algo had two major effects -- a) nodes have something valuable to sell b) all users are protocolically forced to retain all blocks
mircea_popescu: turn on your livingroom lights, pretend you're "running a node". exactly the same as "bang on keyboard, pretend you're writing"
mircea_popescu: anyone can run current through wires. nmot what we're discussing.
mircea_popescu: this is an entirely ridiculous misrepresentation of the issue
mircea_popescu: if it's valuable then not everyone can do it and vice-versa.
asciilifeform: i posted one just the other day (granted it wasn't 'any redditard', but wotronic)
mircea_popescu: understand, there's no way to at the same time give nodes marketable data AND make it so any redditard can just pop a node
asciilifeform: an inevitable visaification, The Guild of The Three Nodes, etc, at t-->inf, is a downer.
mircea_popescu: "mining a block takes a century" currently, it's no bug.
asciilifeform: what's that
asciilifeform: but if standing up a brand-new node from scratch, with full verification (rather than dumb bitwise copy of existing node) takes a century...
mircea_popescu: but this is what the nodes ~are selling~. the o(n^e ness)
asciilifeform: if you already live on mars, there is no problem in flying to mars, yes.
mircea_popescu: however, if you already did the work, what is the problem ?
asciilifeform: actually worse than N^2
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: eventually (given death of moore's law, already long ago) the minimal practical time will exceed the block interval, and then mega-headache.
asciilifeform has been thinking very seriously about how to make http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol correctly; and is quite bugged by the fact that ~verification~ is O(N)
mircea_popescu: omraphantom yeah, turns out he's from missouri though ;/
asciilifeform: '@aeliasen @gnupg for fingerprints collisions are not interesting. There is no known preimage attack for SHA1. Keep calm and use OpenPGP.' << lel
danielpbarron: re: ratings above, both were very enthusiastic in performing some tasks for me in Eulora. very helpful, would hire again
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tried again, with possibly adequate specificity this time!
pete_dushenski: speaking of learning, "Core exists as dictatorship and tyranny, upholding speech control, colluding to attack people with different views, has become the biggest threat of the long-term development of Bitcoin". ~bitmain miner guy (http://imgur.com/a/mhEEd)
omraphantom: i've looked into crypto recently i've been poking at this key stuff last couple days been learning a lot
pete_dushenski: online learning though! it's the future.
omraphantom: me bored with too much time = crazy idea written out with no way to make it real
pete_dushenski: speaking of wences, he was still pretending to be a person as recently as july 2015 (http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/21/wences-whacked-xapo-zapped/) though can't say i've heard a meaningful peep from him or about him since aside from 'swiss kyc blahblah' nothing-on-a-stick.
omraphantom: they have a carpenter friend that was in my state i should meet apparently. i have a furniture blueprint just zero skills lol
pete_dushenski: sure. and where'd you hear about this channel ? we need some more market research metrics
omraphantom: but at the same time i'm not saying i won't be doing my course credits
pete_dushenski: you'd do worse than adding some #trilema logs to that general diet
omraphantom: but for now i need to focus on the general education credits
pete_dushenski salutes back to shinohai!
pete_dushenski: omraphantom: aha just getting rolling then. eh no rush to start eng school. a chunk of the guys here started but didn't even finish
shinohai waves to pete_dushenski
omraphantom: when i can't think straight to gewt the seasons right >.<
omraphantom: i'm going to be 20 when i start now flm
omraphantom: starting in spring spent to long on that souls searching wtf will do phase lol
pete_dushenski: what's the attrition rate at your school ?
pete_dushenski: probably a slightly older kinkster engineer than omraphantom
mircea_popescu: whoss ah the chip pornographer ? nice.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated omraphantom 1 << kinkster engineer teenager or something.
mircea_popescu: !!rate omraphantom 1 kinkster engineer teenager or something.
mircea_popescu: well thanks for the highlight then :D\
asciilifeform: (subj can wait for eons, really, it's a running log of crapolade timer)
mircea_popescu: sorry alf i'm busy chatting up this engineering 19yo.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FE6946A3BC2C63FF4316CD566875F2A65BCBFCF5FF6BB420A3F08B6FBA5EE0A0 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1614...4133 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.94.239.189 (ssh-rsa key from 81.94.239.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.mnl-latvia.lv. LV 099)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FE6946A3BC2C63FF4316CD566875F2A65BCBFCF5FF6BB420A3F08B6FBA5EE0A0 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1351...3347 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.94.239.189 (ssh-rsa key from 81.94.239.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.mnl-latvia.lv. LV 099)
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform batting 0 / N to date )
asciilifeform: so far mircea_popescu is the people-bringin' champ
mircea_popescu: they've been doing this whole "add logos to a printed page" thing for years now, it did 0.
asciilifeform: re upstack -- i actually have here an earlier mips from imagination co. -- it is notbad.jpg (tested back in the day as potential pogo replacement)
asciilifeform: ...Supermicro's support site—and that firmware is still hosted there.'
asciilifeform: in yet-other western tech, https://archive.is/YcSdC << 'A mid-2016 security incident led to Apple purging its data centers of servers built by Supermicro, including returning recently purchased systems... ... A source familiar with the case at Apple told Ars that the compromised firmware affected servers in Apple's design lab, and not active Siri servers. The firmware, according to the source, was downloaded directly from Supermicro's
mircea_popescu: no this is how it goes.
mircea_popescu: but in other western technologies, http://68.media.tumblr.com/d10a3976994cae7727aeb3127572ad86/tumblr_mmbrdcBrgU1rgefeko1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: oh hey lol they licensed the core!
asciilifeform: actually this is a mega-snoar, looks like the makers used 100% western toolchain, even macrocells ☟︎
mircea_popescu: wow check it out, a quarter of the baikal chip's unused.
mircea_popescu likes reading the foundation reports.
mircea_popescu: where did they get this "ceo" from, was he the previous VP of ceosunlimitedbocavistatexas.tripod.com ?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B079AB36D0E866779596469C3FAEBEF7B8C64D767B5C70392CA63F69F82FA1EC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1177...2589 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.245.198.38 (ssh-rsa key from 183.245.198.38 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2C3FC522334163C0B6CF55BAF32AF6EB7DB80ECA003153CA2D167C84C9B4DC42 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1090...3007 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '223.94.90.83 (ssh-rsa key from 223.94.90.83 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B079AB36D0E866779596469C3FAEBEF7B8C64D767B5C70392CA63F69F82FA1EC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1090...3007 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.245.198.38 (ssh-rsa key from 183.245.198.38 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2C3FC522334163C0B6CF55BAF32AF6EB7DB80ECA003153CA2D167C84C9B4DC42 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1137...2399 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '223.94.90.83 (ssh-rsa key from 223.94.90.83 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN)
shinohai: http://archive.is/Twxkq <<< CoinDesk gets new CEO, still no plans to publish newsworthy articles however.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-redditard/ << Trilema - The Redditard
ben_vulpes: > we love microchips - that's why we boil them in acid
a111: Logged on 2017-03-01 00:10 ben_vulpes: not the pipes necessarily, but the garden; dog; wife; child; engines of my own...
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620306 << to round the thread out, i also enjoy veen's company tremendously ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ty trinque
trinque: I fixed the problem of the mute bot, though
trinque: BingoBoingo: it's actually there, unconfirmed
trinque: rough edges on the new bot yet
trinque: BingoBoingo: no response eh? I'll take a look
asciilifeform: and then evaporated
asciilifeform: even went to mircea_popescu's c1
a111: Logged on 2017-03-01 01:27 mircea_popescu: and a very fine point in case here, from my own personal experience, is that xapo sad faggot, wences casares.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620408 << lel, wasn't he the d00d with the 'btc bank card' ☝︎
asciilifeform: i didnt make anything fit for memorializing in Soba this mo
mod6: werd, thx alf
shinohai: tfw a camho faves the State of the Bitcoin Address tweet
shinohai: Lesson learned. Do that shit manually.
shinohai: mod6: No I was trying to use xmacros to automate some clicks for mircea_popescu and accidentally bought the wrong bundle @ 45 bitcents
mod6: shinohai: did you just burn through a ton of tools or what?
mod6: asciilifeform: forgive us for not mentioning your many submissions as of late. we'll be addressing these next month. salud!
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's monthly address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000258.html
mod6: yeah, trying to keep up with all these posts. just started this one on "possible trb-i"
shinohai: Awesum! Looking forward to it, I'm just now delving into asciilifeform 's tome.
mod6: im aight, bout to send out this SoBA here.
mircea_popescu: here's a pic of a nice black girl going over backwards to suck some cock. http://68.media.tumblr.com/ca595189778e5688d585a0dbdda6f5e3/tumblr_mn2n4qplLe1s5v9c7o1_1280.png
shinohai still feels terribru about that
shinohai: Not bad here, haven't lost 10 bitcents in Eulora today so ..... and you?
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> trb-tits << I thought that was shinohai's fork << :D
mircea_popescu: not people. things. items.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing andressen has to contribute to any discussion. if you want copy/paste "ugc" you can just as well use google "ai", for the exact same result.
mircea_popescu: and i do mean this. nobody. tom cook isn't a fucking ceo, and if i replaced him with hillary's daughter there'd be no perceptible difference anywhere.
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck is not some sort of journalist, and generally speaking nobody has any ground to stand on ~whatsoever~. at all.