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mircea_popescu: unbalanced i dunnowhat it does, never used it
unbalanced: I don't like to assume anything when it comes to crypto.
unbalanced: Am I to assume that's what this key management app means in that message? That only my PUBLIC key will be sent out?
unbalanced: It does NOT say "This will publish the PUBLIC keys in your key ring..." so I thought, "F that!"
unbalanced: So I tried the "Sync and Publish Keys..." link on the "Remote" menu in Seahorse. And the warning message pops up:
unbalanced: I set it all up, using Seahorse... but I have to put a public key "out there" so people could encrypt messages to me.
unbalanced: I remember now where I locked up months ago with GPG.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i wonder what % of 4chan pics are steganographically loaded
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have it right nwo. it's there << rewrote btcd?
mircea_popescu: cause otherwise this discussion is exactlylike email privacy. i have all the email privacy i could want, because gpg
mircea_popescu: i have it right nwo. it's there.
justusranvier: I think we will get privacy on the blockchain eventually.
justusranvier: I'll suggest that
mircea_popescu: i doubt this is true.
unbalanced: I don't have a lot of hardware is why... at the time I was on a Windows machine using a Linux VM. Now I'm pure. Linux.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier "Using the global public ledger that allows for multilateral decision making means that retaining financial privacy is, to put it lightly, problematic. It’s possible to achieve, but doing so is a difficult and delicate process where mistakes are easy to make and also permanent." i don't understand this part, at all.
unbalanced: But before I do, I agree MP, I didn't take not winning the hackathon badly, I only said my thing wasn't "good enough" because a) it wasn't all done in time and b) my math was less than accurate. Empirically not good enough for anyone to use.
unbalanced: Not sure if i can get to that VM from here. I'll take a stab.
unbalanced: Thanks I was turning blue. justusranvier, nicely done
mircea_popescu: i don't believe this crap is aptly described as optimism.
unbalanced: I usually *give off* the cray-cray vibe when it comes to Bitcoin. Didn't expect people could outdo me for tech optimism.
justusranvier: I tried: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/03/19/decentralized-applications-its-time-for-an-intervention/
unbalanced: Agreed. I walked away from several folks when I began to get the cray-cray vibe.
unbalanced: By the time I left that conference I thought Bitcoin was a cult of decentralization. Decentralize all the things!
unbalanced: I didn't win a top place... my stuff wasn't good enough but more importantly it seemed, not "decentralized" enough.
unbalanced: I was at the Bitcoin Hackathon in Toronto a couple of months back, and DJ was a judge.
diametric: should read scrollback, i'm assuming it was the topic for a while
mthreat: he also corrected me when I said i'd seen a pic of him with an ak-47. apparently it wasn't an ak
mthreat: actually i think he said c32, which i didn't even know existed
unbalanced: Got partway done months ago in one of my VMs, I'll have to dig it up. BingoBoingo's tutorial was a good help.
mircea_popescu: <dub> but around age 6 I had my book (yes book) of games and c64 << i had one of those too
kakobrekla: USD when comparing it over time. The performance we've had is astounding, and just because it lags behind the performance of Bitcoin should not take away from that. We've still managed to outperform more than 99% of the other things you could have spent your BTC on. Silver for example was $28.50 on our IPO date and is $19.50 now, yet I don't see you trolling silver dealers on here.
asciilifeform: chain.com << 'i dontwanna use the blockchain, mitm me please'
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> btw i never had the 'wolf & eggs.' too l33t. borrowed from kid next door. << that kicked ass
dub: but around age 6 I had my book (yes book) of games and c64
asciilifeform: i still remember the shock of encountering widgets that resembled actual comp but weren't programmable.
dub: the one console I recall using was the old pong game that plugged into a tv
benkay: now guess how old i am
benkay: i never didn't have dsl
dub: I got actual computers
asciilifeform: btw i never had the 'wolf & eggs.' too l33t. borrowed from kid next door.
assbot: Charlie Brown: I got a rock - YouTube
dub: I got a rock
cazalla: we had similar knock offs in australia, it was my grandmother who bought me brick when i wanted a gameboy with tetris and she tried to tell me it was the same thing
asciilifeform: i also once saw 'parasonic'
asciilifeform: i'dave panicked but russian education (childhood scraping out gunk from leaked sov. batteries)
benkay: shit i gotta stop running businesses and start scamming vc's
davout: i see
davout: ThickAsThieves: yeah, i was thinking like car accident or whatever way that wouldn't look suspicious
benkay: huh i seem to like this word.
benkay: implying the thing impends and that i've my eye upon it.
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt accept it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt it. he's actually more expensive to kill than to ignore. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i bet mr. t is cleaning ak as we speak
ThickAsThieves: hehe i just read the part about he started weightlifting cuz he was worried for his safety
mircea_popescu: davout asa bonus he has a lenghty list of "i fucking told you so" for various people.
davout: from what i understand of the black swan, his ideas pretty much destroy the rationales by which risk is managed in traditional finance
mircea_popescu: but i'd love to have him in here.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: taleb, as i understand, bet on us collapse, raked in the dough.
mircea_popescu: Thanks everyone for the incredible amount of support on this project! I hope we're just getting started."
ThickAsThieves: i'm totally ignorant of taleb other than gaining a familiarity of his name from you guys over the months
bloctoc: I don't wish to be pedantic, but the donner party did not just die, they ate each other.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if taleb reads this line before he dies.
mircea_popescu: i dare say the taleb notes and the gangue of great minds found at their burial are not the same
mircea_popescu: and this is perhaps the first time i used "dude" in its proper fucking sense in this chan. go me.
ThickAsThieves: and to whomever recommended Antifragile, it was exactly the next book I was looking for, great so far
mircea_popescu: <davout> mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume << you know the donner party also wasn't as large before as it was at the point it starved to death.
ThickAsThieves: ascii, i finished anathem, thanks
kakobrekla: i found that rtbtc goes back enough
ThickAsThieves: but i cant imagine what she;d offer bitpay
davout: mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, this concept of bitcoin services doing a NASDAQ/NYSE IPO, seems somehow naturally unlikely
mircea_popescu: from what i hear this 30mn bought them a lease on life worth about a year.
davout: i guess that's closer to what you were explaining initially
davout: i guess not for bitpay
mircea_popescu: hm i guess you're right
mircea_popescu: i'm not a woman
TheNewDeal: this is going horrible. Just tossed some chicken on the stove and now I have to take a shit. Running around the kitchen trying to hold everything in before I can flip
davout: the question i'm asking is "how do you know?"
davout: mike_c: yeah, i understand "cash-flow negative" :D
mircea_popescu: i know they keep derping about how merchants went from 4k to 40k, but... w/e
davout: well maybe the reason for taking investment is not that they're unprofitable, but that they need it to grow faster, am i missing something obvious to discrimnate between those two?
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall, did they publish their total processed / gross fees for q1 ? 2013 ? anything ?
mircea_popescu sings .. i'm the king of the repartee, the asshole vip...
mircea_popescu: so was i
mike_c: i was doing something else
mircea_popescu: i'm not incentivised to sell it too low, i don't need the liquidity.
mike_c: i will be interested to see how low you have to sell it to get buyers
mircea_popescu: mike_c also, this is a dilemma crafted for your shoesize. so, reits are bad right ? how about seits ? where s stands for ... shit i guess.
davout: the way i was understanding it was "investing in potato crops is betting against btc appreciation" or at least depreciation of btc relative to potato crops
mircea_popescu: davout i know. that's kinda how the mpex synthetics ruin the life of these people : they make understanding what's going on so much easier.
davout: i was understanding this a bit differently
davout: hopefully if i do both i benefit from double negative
davout: i'm either understanding this wrong, or parsing it wrong
davout: that was the first thought i had when reading the d.bpay example
mike_c: after all the nice things i said about frenchies today.
mike_c: i can't create either one
mike_c: but i guess they are both short BTC
mike_c: now i'm thinking about how to combine x.eur and d.bpay..
mike_c: not secret, but haven't i been wrong enough today? :)