asciilifeform: (ianal but iirc my state actually imposes penalties on anyone, incl. landlord, who interferes with the display of a standard american flag)
asciilifeform: flags are generally permitted so long as it's a regulation american flag
asciilifeform: you must be a deviant, is the thought
asciilifeform: in usa, excavation on your property (not even talking about some random place you've no official busines in) without a 'socially acceptable' excuse is thought to be a sign of 'up to no good' -- like duffel bag of benjies under your car seat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the canned water, yes. still found on 'ebay'
asciilifeform: as with any consumer idiocy, these became 'status object' and those with some money would build appropriately bigger ones, with more pointless luxuries
asciilifeform: not in any way shape or form designed to resist blast or serious gamma, and certainly not direct enemy action on the door
asciilifeform: these were originally referred to as 'fallout shelters', which is a somewhat more honest description of what one might actually hope to achieve with one
asciilifeform: today used to refer to quick&dirty intro to something or other.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: short for 'ликвидация безграмотности', or 'elimination of illiteracy', a 1920s sov. catchphrase for all sorts of 'popular enlightenment' crackpottery
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: that's because you gotta search for ликбез
asciilifeform: and if you're close enough for this, you're already dead of gamma burst
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only when you catch neutrons
asciilifeform: when they know, often used as a wine cellar
asciilifeform: and the owner does not even necessarily know
asciilifeform: they were, at the dawn of that age, popular to such an extent, that a great many houses -still- have them buried in the yard
asciilifeform: charlatans have been selling these steel coffins since mid-1950s.
asciilifeform: time for an elementary likbez on the bunkers of gringolandia
asciilifeform: and how much, e.g., diesel this translates into
asciilifeform: what kind of energy is required, for how much biomass
asciilifeform: the concept of clandestine 'farm' with electric lights is a sufficiently familiar one that folks ought to be able to take a napkin calculation and say
asciilifeform: instead of taking twenty seconds to find well-documented fortifications built in recent history, as many photos, drawings as could ever wish
asciilifeform: my mind is still reeling that anyone, anywhere, might have swallowed the '3000 sq. ft for two dozen people', 'grow room' the size of bedroom, idiot hollywood 'motorcycle garage' and 'gun vault', etc.☟︎
asciilifeform invites aficionados of the subject to study what bunkers that were built by folks who weren't strangers to arithmetic looked like, what was inside, how long expected to function, under what kind of pushback, etc.
asciilifeform: except in the 'fuck you i'm a dragon' (tm) sense, i suppose
asciilifeform: death bunker is not substantially the same thing as escape
asciilifeform: but sorta failing to grasp precisely which.
asciilifeform: the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's ordinary chumpatronics, where someone at least showed a bit of effort, and there's utter rubbish that falls apart after thinking about it for ten seconds if you've half a clue
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have no idea who the chumpatronicists in question are, or what they charge, but the drawings show that none of it has any relation to physical reality
asciilifeform: where, exactly, does one get in by virtue of having such a thing, that you would wish to go ?
asciilifeform was not involved in broadcast chumpatronics in any way, even remotely, but ended up having paycheques issued by one such thing by sheer accident
asciilifeform at one point had an entirely genuine card from $censored_media_conglomerate and never found any good 'social engineering' use for it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is the point of the faux 'press' card ?
asciilifeform: point re: herr torvalds was, that a healthy culture doesn't consist of a corral of helpless pets and one wizard waving iron staff standing on a bridge doing the 'thou shall not pass' thing
asciilifeform: 'single point of failure' and enemy knows it.
asciilifeform: archduke ferdinand, famously, wore one ^
asciilifeform: cuts the fibers individually (they are designed to contain blunt impact, just as silk - the first ballistic vest material - did)
asciilifeform: laugh or not, bolt will go straight through 'kevlar', 'spektra', etc. anything without solid plates.
asciilifeform: wasn't speaking, note, of whether usians will smoke weed mostly without harassment (they already have for years) - but of whether fed usg specifically will let go of the bludgeon
asciilifeform: (where use is legal but production & shipment is prosecuted)
asciilifeform: rather than idiot contradictory crap like the netherlands
