asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mf1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mf2.jpg

asciilifeform: visually yes

asciilifeform: even a free sample board in there.

asciilifeform: lol, package -did- show.

asciilifeform: ( http://www.regia.org/research/warfare/fyrd1.htm )

asciilifeform: 80% << obligatory >> 'We use the term "thieves" if the number of men does not exceed seven, "band of marauders" [or "war-band"] for a number between seven and thirty-five. Anything beyond this is an "army".'

asciilifeform: when your number comes up - then, then the fun.

asciilifeform: Adlai: everyone has. because actual anal inspection for every 'client' takes far too long. instead - lottery.

asciilifeform: davout: because it's a lie

asciilifeform: (sorta like admitting that you have someone else's suitcase)

asciilifeform: in usg airport

asciilifeform: davout: insta-confiscation, presumed plastique.

asciilifeform: davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050246 ☝︎

asciilifeform: davout: if it has any purpose whatsoever, it is a training run for shoulder-surfing the pw in case they decide to confiscate the machine

asciilifeform: davout: the laptop thing is becoming standard in most of the usg world

asciilifeform: rather than furnished

asciilifeform: davout: unfurnished, that is

asciilifeform: davout: i suspect that they're absolutely standard wherever inhabited by ordinary folks, rather than business travellers or mircea_popescu with $maxint

asciilifeform: i mean, i'd like to think not, but cannot fairly claim to be certain of not being mouse

asciilifeform: 'we're in no hurry, you and i', the beast says to the mouse

asciilifeform: more like cat that 'plays with its food'

asciilifeform: nobody wants a copy, but only to be annoying

asciilifeform: will hand-deliver to hitler if he asks nicely

asciilifeform: phr33 s4mpl3

asciilifeform: walls of constantinopol

asciilifeform: chetty: by far the most economical way to get there is on water

asciilifeform: which is the one in 'stand on zanzibar' and of the 'mouse city' overpopulation experiment

asciilifeform: it solves an actual problem, that some folks perceive themselves as having

asciilifeform: bus, passenger plane, auto - no.

asciilifeform: boat is a machine for getting away from fucking humans

asciilifeform: bus to uninhabited islands ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: air travel -> arse inspection. sail - not yet (doesn't scale well)

asciilifeform: as well as climate-switching

asciilifeform: the machine, as i understand, is for reasonably quick, inexpensive, and unobtrusive jurisdiction-switching

asciilifeform: at any rate, mr o spends most of his time at anchor

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform searches memory for historical figures who are known to have done any serious thinking while under sail

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for this and other reasons decided that 'too orbital' for budget constraint.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform is not an expert or veteran of the art. but also is not esp. susceptible to motion sickness

asciilifeform: anyway, i'm not satisfied presently with his demonstration. he cheated.

asciilifeform: had idea before reading mr o, but it was him who demonstrated that it can be done on something less than orbital budget

asciilifeform: (orlov has a small engine, he claims only for parking)

asciilifeform: sail.

asciilifeform: on the ship you get the thing americans pay $maxint for - maximize distance from nearest human on command - for $0.

asciilifeform: on $smallint

asciilifeform: living on land in gringolandia

asciilifeform: know what else sucks?

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (which at one point wanted to do)

asciilifeform: i trained the pet, inadvertantly, by threatening, for some years, to move us into a ship

asciilifeform: i envy him often

asciilifeform: a mathematician

asciilifeform: a good friend of mine is 'theoretical'

asciilifeform: which is what i call folks who don't need any physical plant

asciilifeform: trinque: i used to be 'theoretical'

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: would happily set fire to all of it if had the other half of the conundrum licked

asciilifeform: but i probably should elaborate a little

asciilifeform: if knew what's in the tank

asciilifeform: i mean no shit, it sucks and no one would climb in on his own volition

asciilifeform: but otherwise a nearly obvious description of what a gravity well even is

asciilifeform: decades << not quite decade

asciilifeform: but over here we live in demented pauper-land where sanity is a premium product available to select few.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is puzzled because he can afford sanity

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is approximately correct

asciilifeform: chetty: overrated imho

asciilifeform: chetty: we have these where i work

asciilifeform: for the rest of us, who don't have access to $maxint - they sit in rented hovels, yes

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, plainly antiques should only travel in atomic dirigible

asciilifeform: it is indestructible.

asciilifeform: my brother works in a chair that almost certainly was once at 'bell labs'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or use one made 20+ yrs ago

asciilifeform: phun phakt: i once had a costly, 'premium' type office chair spontaneously convert into a stake

asciilifeform: but that isn't 100% of furniture

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if were moving to, wherever, jp, yes - things more economical to buy 2nd time than ship - would

asciilifeform: Adlai: and srsly, sha256 as a callout?! it's a pg or 2

asciilifeform: i -like- my desk, chair, etc. don't want 'generic' ones when i move

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of my actual residence here

asciilifeform: Adlai: aaargh, is that a shell callout!? wtf

asciilifeform: but no, i don't have precisely same items to put in rented space as the neighbouring derps

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not in excess. in exactly the correct volume.

asciilifeform: just example.

asciilifeform: today.

asciilifeform: ' 500k 'worthless' dollars buy a moscow flat

asciilifeform: only'

asciilifeform: or soros et al would snap up the whole shebang

asciilifeform: that's the only way prices like this can exist

asciilifeform: aha if no foreigners, even easier

asciilifeform: as i understand it costs more than that to have your title not magicked away by the 'big boy' privatizers in the locale

asciilifeform: and i think i'd like a 'boeing' too, for 250.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ok i'll bite. where do i buy one.

asciilifeform: 'linux is free if...' etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha you had to spend more than 350 to turn into the sort of fella who might open the door behind which it costs 350.

asciilifeform: Adlai: i know this because of being still alive

asciilifeform: Adlai: the tentacles, where i stand, flail wildly and without purpose

asciilifeform: it'd still have a 'too good to be true' flavour were it at 10x the quoted price - so i'm not expecting much

asciilifeform: (who knows how long will last, or even if works. i was going to learn something by opening that crate...)

asciilifeform: and is, afaik, presently the only outfit of its kind

asciilifeform: 'macrofab' opened ~1 mo. ago