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mircea_popescu: i still don't see how it affects us / anything of concern.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem where were the daily forks b/w january (?) and now ? << costs a little to make one, nobody cared enough. (also lots of manual intervention and general ducttaping at the miner and relayer level - bitcoin is quickly becoming an excellent makework tool, keeping idiots both employed and in a delusion of importance)
mircea_popescu: none of this in any way invalidates anything about the new chain, nor is it a point of concern that i can distinguish
mircea_popescu: this utterly proves that a) the BIP system provides no benefit and should be disused ; b) the peoiple involved with all this nonsense should be muted ; c) voting does not work. nothing here is novel.
mircea_popescu: 4. the people who voted did so as all people voting ever do : blankly, mouth only. then, someone mined a v2 block on top of a v3 block (which to them look identical) and the supposed 95% majority that promised by that vote to distinguish failed to distinguish. well, half of them or so. the other half distinguished
mircea_popescu: and we'll never see an odd hash block for as long as they keep at it.
mircea_popescu: this, again, has nothing to do with us. if tomorrow miners decide as a social game to never communicate any blocks they find that hash to odd, it's THEIR problem
mircea_popescu: 3. in order to avoid the situation that happened tonight, a supposed "voting" mechanism was deployed where people switched an irrelevant byte in the blocks they mined, to go from 2 to 3, to indicate they are ready and willing to follow the new rules.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it'd have been ideal to not import the satoshism in question into bitcoin, but before our time.
mircea_popescu: this is neither a bad idea nor in any sense avoidable. because, again, without it we'll fork daily.
mircea_popescu: 2. a voluntary, user-enforced change to the protocol was proposed (iirc by petertodd) where only DER sigs are accepted anymore.
mircea_popescu: so 1. it was observed that the idiots running openssl, who for historical reasons are actually wholesale pulled into bitcoin, decided to fuck up the way they do signatures, which is to say, make items signed come out in rnadom shapes. this is obviously very dangerous for bitcoin
mircea_popescu: lemme lay out the issue here in detail, i think it's mebbe getting fudged.
mircea_popescu: this, obviously, would also be where to bury who knows what. but if it's there, nobody's found it yet that i know
mircea_popescu: the difference between v3 and v2 is , as best anyone can determine, actual fucking validation for the openssl nonsense. hardly avoidable.
mircea_popescu: atm the situation is that block 363730 is forked. one chain, 6 blocks long, proceeds atop a v2 block. the current main chain proceeds from 363730 on v3 blocks.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what happens if you import the 7 block alt-chain into the stator ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem this is incidentally an exceptional opportunity to test our recent toolset.
mircea_popescu: neway, of more interesting things : confirmed my seeder's stuck on 363736.
mircea_popescu: just because you have one, and it's a very reflective surface, doesn't mean it has one too.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this obviousness is a fruit of your eye, not of the thing you're lookling on. like people perceive souls in cats' eyes.
mircea_popescu: "the enemy" is barely cogent enough to be enmitous at all.
mircea_popescu: the dead don't know they're dead ; the ridiculous don't know they're ridiculous. the world is well constructed for one's amusement.
mircea_popescu: yet he's still walking around as if he were somehow still a person.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, phantomcircuit is still the guy who ran "a security companmy" that oversaw 3 bitcoinica thefts, and still the guy who hacked a python one liner to send every customer an email with the full list of customer emails
mircea_popescu: there are some people that go around introducing themseves as "bitcoin devs" who just spectacularly failed the least controversial soft fork to date.
mircea_popescu: there is no physical punishment for being extremely ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: apparently in the world we live in, the best way to ensure nobody reads something is to publish it as code anyway
mircea_popescu: "wangchunLuke-Jr: I do not know how that v2 pool was relayed, log was lost in a screen session"
mircea_popescu: also lulzy for all the people using blockchain.info to validate txn.
mircea_popescu: alternatively they could just shut down and stfu already.
mircea_popescu: for the unsubstantiated delusionsm of a few random geeks, working to make the world believe they're knowledgeable and important, bitcoin hiccups every so often.
mircea_popescu: right. splendid. how about go home and the problem goes away with you.
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY how usg works throughout. first, cause black people to be poor and depenedent. then cause them to be violent. then go on press conferences about how "they're doing things about black violence"
mircea_popescu: then they go on reddit to "explain" why what they fucked up isn't their fault, and "what really happened" , and collect cheap applause from the celenterates therein living.
mircea_popescu: an abundance of instances can be documented where they fucked things up
mircea_popescu: there can not be a single instance documented where they did anything useful to any degree or in any sense
mircea_popescu: these are people who have been so far causing nothing but problems for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: here's what's the idea : after botching the soft fork, it seems illogical that the entire bip system should continue at all.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski 6 blocks wouldn't necessarily be visible. even three deep reorgs happen with some regularity naturally.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, am i the only one finding it a wee bit suspicious that the orphan chain ended up 6 blocks long, ie, exactly the size normally deemed "safe" ?
mircea_popescu: <trinque> might be able to just rip those bits off from the dep, then cut off the dep <<< ahahaha you.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, feed it the last few blocks through the mechanism discussed that alf created recently i guess.
mircea_popescu: n ProcessMessage()\n\nProcessMessage(block, 947244 bytes) FAILED\n" which is the confirmation. then increase the number o' locks.
mircea_popescu: trinque, asciilifeform, wimc : if client fails to progress past 363736, the likely culprit is the db locks limit. look in derp.log (assuming standard derp) for "REORGANIZE\nREORGANIZE: Disconnect 6 blocks; 000000000000000006a3..000000000000000013fe\nREORGANIZE: Connect 7 blocks; 000000000000000006a3..0000000000000000014e\n\n\n************************\nEXCEPTION: 11DbException\nDb::get: Cannot allocate memory\nbitcoin i
mircea_popescu: Add 7 start 000000000000000006a3 end 0000000000000000014e"
mircea_popescu: Cut 6 start 000000000000000006a3 end 000000000000000013fe
mircea_popescu: check out all the miners that were mining off thin air, incidentally. because the bandwidth doubled so much.
mircea_popescu: he's still alive. never trust the living. for all you know he ends up like donald trump, doing reality shows in his 70s
mircea_popescu: "and then we came THIS CLOSE to selling out to amazon for 5 trtillion"
mircea_popescu: sort-of like how rassah bought a car or some guy bought a pizza.
mircea_popescu: to most everyone else, gavin's just another washed up website designer with a great story from five years ago.
mircea_popescu: your experiences and inner life are not nearly as universal as you imagine before you examine it.
mircea_popescu: he only wears the halo ~to you~. because you're a particular sort of inner build, and because you ate a particular diet.
mircea_popescu: the legions of hell are truely an infinite headcount. why do you care so much about some particular schmucks in the chorus ? why not that tv scammer dude while you're at it, what was his name
mircea_popescu: heck, kenna and the armandi fellow are prolly due for a novel attempt too
mircea_popescu: every bum drunk has a story of greatness. go, listen. care.
mircea_popescu: any idea how long the list is ? even nefario is making the occasional reappearance.
mircea_popescu: and lawsky's going around trying to scam people like a resurected antonopopo derpopopop.
mircea_popescu: next time they'll need some they... ahem... won't read b-a logs etc once more.
mircea_popescu: why ? point's well made, everyone's happy to be part of bitcoin by standing on borrowed intelligence. let them.