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asciilifeform: interesting. spec seems to say they ought not, so i suspect not erry browser sends
asciilifeform: if it were , would be trivial
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 07:09:42 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931343 << this is terrible ; but i don't see anything wrong with parsing url by id first, such that log/date#index goes to #index on whatever date it might be, and to /date otherwise.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931356 << the main headache is that the segment of a url past the anchor (#) is never sent to server .
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/42nd-street/ << Trilema -- 42nd Street
mircea_popescu: ie, not only im never gonna mandate inca's "ntp", but i'm not even going to make anything like it.
mircea_popescu: blockheight is the republican timekeeping item, and in the case of logs that's self-evidently line counts.
mircea_popescu: i have no intention o fforcing anything like "time", because (as per ancient discussion i suspect meanwhole forgotten but which i still remember) fiat time is doomed non-republican construct.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 23:07:47 asciilifeform: the obv. alternative is to actually do a db lookup when printing links, to get the appropriate local date. BUT this means a db lookup per link displayed, i.e. slowdown.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931343 << this is terrible ; but i don't see anything wrong with parsing url by id first, such that log/date#index goes to #index on whatever date it might be, and to /date otherwise.
mircea_popescu: phf, wouldja take it to #asciilifeform or whatever already.
phf: fixing an old style link is then cheap e.g. for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758070 i parse out 758070, (entryref 758070), then render the url (which is standard url rendering function) which uses whatever date that's stored in the message record, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 in this particular case they happen to be the same, but the point is that this is not a regex transform. essentially i do a ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-08-27 02:20 asciilifeform: atm i also suspect that a certain % of links imported from 'era 2' (phf's april 2016 -- aug. 2019) also do not go where expected, on acct of clock difference b/w the boxen.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-27#1931379 << btcbase is a continuation of kako's log, so there's no timestamp divergence. one log stops at dragon, and the other one starts. never the less i don't rely on dates at all: the entirety of log is stored in an array, so kako entry 123 is (aref *log* 123), likewise current log entry 1931379 is at that particular index in array. ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile in frustrations, for third day digging for a usable 1u-embeddable GB lan switch for piz , found none
asciilifeform: ( coupla hundy $ , if 2ndhand, but they're hefty )
asciilifeform would like to hear how phf dealt with this .
asciilifeform: ( the option 'hey just sync clock' dun do anyffin useful. for one thing, kako's clock was yet different. for another, both kako's and phf's drifted , just like mine... )
asciilifeform: the obv. alternative is to actually do a db lookup when printing links, to get the appropriate local date. BUT this means a db lookup per link displayed, i.e. slowdown.
asciilifeform: easiest pill is prolly to '301' e.g. a ...../log/chan/idx/31337 into correct /log/chan/date#31337 , and transform the payloads of all displayed links into the former. BUT this would break with historical convention. so i'ma ask mircea_popescu how he wants this sewn.
asciilifeform: it is interesting that no one has noticed this effect of yet.
asciilifeform: atm i also suspect that a certain % of links imported from 'era 2' (phf's april 2016 -- aug. 2019) also do not go where expected, on acct of clock difference b/w the boxen. ☟︎
asciilifeform: uniturd decoder, note, is the one in lobbes's latest patch.
asciilifeform: so this will take some days.
asciilifeform: meanwhile : phf's vintage log imports on testbed. however : certain uniturds decode strangely ( e.g. ru-style double-quote turns into accented A ) ; and link-dekakoizer will need db lookup to determine snsabot-correct date for given index # (else the links do not go where expected) .
lobbes: in my trilema-lotto today; the (potential) $2 million couch loan. I worked with someone years ago who "lended" for the BTCjam thing... tried dissuade him and instead get him registered with a gpg key an' into the WOT but he just was too thick. Wonder if he's in a cardboard box these days
asciilifeform wonders whether the troo 1000 $ notes are similarly isotope-distinguishable .
snsabot: Logged on 2017-01-27 17:54:54 asciilifeform: al schwartz wrote about the roofs, iirc it was. semiconductor firms replaced cathedral roofs all over europe, for 0 cost. just to get the valuable pre-hiroshima metal.
asciilifeform: very difficult to picture anyone bothering to fake a ~modern~ coin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a persistent rumour in the '90s that kr got hold of an original press . nfi whether substance to this.
mircea_popescu: but yes, most coins are simply worth less than it'd cost to make
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, it doesn't hurt that silver primarily a waste byproduct that emerges from copper and lead prodction
mircea_popescu: i was talking more re the whole best korea "false benjie'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc coins are moar in favour nao among fakers than at any point since prior to newton. ( coin has neither serial # , nor any elaborate boobytraps that modern tech can't make short work of )
asciilifeform: cheap foot labour makes counterfeit of small (or even recently abolished) paper moneys into a ~workable thing.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> somehow azn tards never think of THAT. << They do, but they do... the COINS! "Morgan Dollar", etc
asciilifeform: ( also helped that : the orig plates were appropriated by quick-thinking orcentrepreneurs )
asciilifeform: ( why ? cuz was still accepted, albeit by bagfull, by street orc merchants in some of the sadder -- e.g. kazah -- ex-colonies )
asciilifeform: (and iirc ditto the 1917 ruble !)
mircea_popescu: somehow azn tards never think of THAT.
mircea_popescu: should prolly be pretty lulzy hole to exploit, make old moneys.
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if any bank were found to eat it, most dun have an archaeologist on staff to distinguish genuine from modern fake
asciilifeform: 'Last printed in 1945, the government stopped distribution of this denomination by 1969' etc
asciilifeform: some numismatists still proclaim that e.g. 1000 $ was never demonetized, only outta print. the usg's mint www is silent on the subj tho.
BingoBoingo: There's this Canadian backpack case in North Inca lore http://qntra.net/2015/06/3-years-prison-for-backpack-full-of-cash-in-winnipeg/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seen many times. Frequently chosen for gifting children.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 2 dollar bill still in print. They just print it in qualtities and frequences simular to local 10 peso coins
asciilifeform: most recent usa bill to be cancelled, iirc , was the 2 $ . some illiterate shop clerks will in fact refuse it, tho it still, last i knew, is accepted by banks .
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, was that a qntra piece ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno that they count as "circulating money".
asciilifeform: iirc they still theoretically count as money. (who and why would try to spend it for the printed value, is separate q)
mircea_popescu: wth is the story of that guy who kept moving $9999 from mexico eventually they stopped him ?
mircea_popescu: as these are collectors' items, they obviously do not count as money for, eg, [][crossing borders].
asciilifeform: iirc it was fdr who abolished the 4digit moneys; at which pt they became museum pieces
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: numismatics is (was??) astonishingly popular in usa. ( for some reason, the most prized rarities are -- last i knew -- mis-struct ~pennies~ of early 20th c.. )
mircea_popescu: the 1928C and D series 5-dolalr bills again 1-200 up to 1500-2k+ (and the 1929 brown seal can be good too, esp the finer grades 1k++) ; the 1928 E series one-dollars can be 2-300 / 1k to 15k for very fine bills.
mircea_popescu: the 1934B and C series (green seal) go for 3-4k each, and 5k+ in CU ; the 1928 gold 50s go for 1-200 and 250+ ; the 1928 C (green seal) 20 is goot for 1-200 / 1k+ ; the 1934 yelow seal 10 dollar bill can be 1-2k / 10k+ each (as it's very rare)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : there's a quite active market in ~old~ benjie bills. all 1k notes go for 1-2k in normal, pocket money like grades (banknotes are graded, things with >3 folds and maybe a missing corner or such (but no tears) are VF (very fine) to EF (extremely), CU have all the corners, no folds. the grading goes up to gem, which are particularly/exceptionally good strikes, vivid and well centered.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the amazon thing : that's precisely how the twenny dollar bill guy (jackson) got florida from spain : "oh, you're not maintaining it properly"
mircea_popescu: turkey actually kicks ass, they built a new uberairport that everyone is all lovey over, and their road infrastructure defo > yurp.
BingoBoingo: So much noise in the local presses on both sides of the river over "Why doesn't Turkey get a crisis too! So unfair!"
lobbes: lol that is a point
lobbes: they still believe they are something special tho. oh well
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 16:00:56 mircea_popescu: speaking of this, remember back when "bric countries" was a thing, and ustards seriously believed they're something special ?
lobbes: takes me an ungodly amt of time to login to the wp-admin as well. Will need to investigate
mircea_popescu: lobbes, incidentally, your blog takes an ungodly amt of time to take a comment. must be some kinda bug somewheres.
mircea_popescu: erryone's out to piss on inca's head huh
BingoBoingo: Per the deal Mercosur recognizes 357 of the 3400 "European Geographical Indications", EU recognizes some Mercosur ones, and because of european heritage in the Americas all sorts of EU geographical indications won't be used against products of Mercosur origin if there's a tradition involved.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA. The EU-Mercosur deal means the European "protected designations of origin" would not apply to Mercosur products sold in the US. So the Argentines, could market "Parmasean Reggiano Industria Argentina" as "Parmasean"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the reasons the EU-Mercosur thing as groundbreaking as it would be hasn't made Qntra to now are the myriad of factors lined up against it. Namely the "traditional Argentine cheeses" could be sold in Europe under their protected in Europe names trap, etc.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not all together improbably the Iriquous forgot the French were their reinforcements by the time they came.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell the Miami 5th column is ~the same as Argentina's, but beat more frequently
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, every warship wreck found adrift in space after the "empire" spawning it was long fucked out of the bloodline is still calling for imaginary rreinforcements at specific positions misexpressed in irrelevant systems of coordinates.
BingoBoingo: Then again if Pedro II was fertile enough to have sufficient children to select 1 not completely retarded heir, Brasil could have been bigger than the US ever was. 1000 year reich and so on.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have difficulty picturing a 'vietnam rerun' , tho the current crop of muppets is certainly dumb enuff. moar likely the linked item is intended as activation ping for whatever 'miami' 5th column can be mustered in br.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It could probably benefit. The defense of Fortaleza has the potential to be a sort of Brazilian Stalingrad.
BingoBoingo: Ecuador bananas far superior to Brasil bananas.
BingoBoingo: Except when it comes to agricultural products. That is every bit the chemical warfare seen in the US adapted to tropical demands.
BingoBoingo: Items labeled at the same thing in the local stores from Brasil and Argentina could not be further apart in the quality and their ability to be what the label calls them.
mircea_popescu: but yes, brasil is exactly what argentina could/should have been, if they weren't utterly braindamaged lazyfucks,
mircea_popescu: will be funny to watch an "invasion" by air keks.
mircea_popescu: whereas brazil is one of the top three producers of gross tonnage, in the military-strategic sense, after china and india and ahead of russkis.
mircea_popescu: for some retarded reason usg decided to concentrate its shipmaking on pacific side
mircea_popescu: because of strategic ineptitude, brazil could actually take over the atlantic fleed from the us within a few years.
BingoBoingo: That momentarily Brazil isn't actively growling at the US is largely due to the personal affinity that exists between Trump and Bolsonaro for however long it lasts.
asciilifeform: promises to be even moar 'sporty' than 'nam -- brazil is home to some of the lulziest 'living boobytraps', e.g. lonomia
BingoBoingo: Well, now any given BRIC is bigger than the US and they don't talk about them at all.
mircea_popescu: speaking of this, remember back when "bric countries" was a thing, and ustards seriously believed they're something special ?
BingoBoingo: lol, yeah. This terrain is still mostly "lets detour outside our borders to transit the Paraguay river" sorta stuff no much more accessible than it was in the 1860s
mircea_popescu: and if you're gone for more than a few weeks... godo for you, you get to do it all over again!
asciilifeform: the youngest folx in usa who remember how to jungle are in their 70s
mircea_popescu: buncha tchotchkes
mircea_popescu would not go without dozen+ men, and none of the "men's club barber shop" cock ornaments qualify
mircea_popescu: as the expression goes, "you'd be eaten by baby turtles in half hour"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 15:07:52 asciilifeform: 'But the case for territorial incursion in the Amazon is far stronger than the justifications for most war. In the meantime, the planet chokes on old notions of sovereignty.' << lol! couldn't make this up.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931224 << it should br real fun to see the retarded fuckwits in actual jungle.
BingoBoingo: Brasil also has shipyards, an aerospace industry that stamps out helicopters, drones, and satellites... they have the sorts of industry Argentina should and could have had if Argentines weren't so incredibly determined to all dole about the port.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 11:06:28 diana_coman: if only code were more denuding and batshit - everyone would want to read it!
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931158 << in a way it is, hence all the calls recently for it.
BingoBoingo: Taurus's LATAM catalog is more utility oriented than their US "sell all comes exactly what they imagine they want" catalog