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diametric: its deja vu for me, i had this nearly identical conversation with a friend over sars way back when.
diametric: we're still only sitting at one infection contracted in the US, a nurse that didn't follow the proper protocol when dealing with the index patient (who is now dead). I'm not seeing the incoming pandemic yet.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in exactly the same place as the goats growing recombinant butyrylcholinesterase (antidote+prophylactic against organophosphate poisoning, $30k+ a dose at current production methods)
diametric: man its feeling a bit like fox news in here, trying to convince me I already have ebola
decimation: serious imported epidemics could be. The people of American Samoa self-blockaded, on top of official quarantine: they sent out canoes to stop any and all visitors. They never had a single case."
decimation: "Washington didn’t micro-manage American Samoa, not being all that interested. A policy of benign neglect was interpreted by Poyer as an opportunity to act on his best judgment, in the finest traditions of the US Navy. He imposed quarantine. That was harder that it sounds, because of the frequent family visits between West Samoa and American Samoa – but Poyer also had the support of the local chiefs, who understood how
diametric: i find it kind of interesting though, you were in the camp of ebola isn't a serious problem for a first world country when we talked about it a few months ago.
diametric: honestly, though, ebola has an R0 of 2, its less serious than measles which thanks to anti-vax nutters is making a huge comeback. If theres anything to honestly be really worried about, its measles.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: (no, it’s not all physiology, there’s a lot to the functioning of the brain that’s purely cultural, and thus ethnic, and thus sure black kids immersed into white culture could in principle get the same IQ measurements as white kids while black kids from Africa or the ghetto never will) << lolno.
thickasthieves: but no, thank you for giving it a go, i always like to see the new b-a bizs
BingoBoingo: decimation: I think kakobrekla is giving them a spin. I've read mixed reviews.
mats_cd03: and i plan to wait until brk-a bet concludes to do that
decimation: the point being everything is a tradeoff, and many errors of government come from trying to assume the value of something to be infinity - or zero.
decimation: ask any engineer 'how safe' the bridge should be, and he will ask how many people it should kill in a reasonable lifespan
asciilifeform: i for one am quite curious what the first successful use of a uterus bomb will do to 'security theatre.'
mircea_popescu: decimation do they refund it if you blow up a plane after all ?
decimation: the latest thing is that if you pay the tsa $70 you can get your name on a list, so that you go through security 'the way it was before 2001'
RagnarDanneskjol: Adlai at what point does a child sold into slavery become free? psychologically unemployable, et.. < http://trilema.com/2014/money-fucking-and-lying/#footnote_1_57150
BingoBoingo: Ah, I only have so many channels open at a time.
Adlai: yes that was linked in #lisp a while back
asciilifeform: there is still a stick.
decimation: asciilifeform: well, the aforementioned English devised a system where every such chap has a stick-wielder nearby
asciilifeform: not everyone has a chap with a stick standing behind, ready to whack
asciilifeform: decimation: gedankenexperiment. what stops these folks from, e.g., opening a textbook & studying physics, math, greek, whatever ?
Adlai: kakobrekla: what's wrong with a little dissent :P
Adlai: on the other hand, that child grew into a "psychologically unemployable" adult
mircea_popescu: the only disgusting thing is that a minority of kids today are mistreated by not being so treated.
mircea_popescu: except if a woman. women rarely emancipated.
mircea_popescu: Adlai in england you mean ? usually when he's old enough and skilled enough to practice a trade
Adlai: at what point does a child sold into slavery become free?
mircea_popescu: the process built like 99% of any english speaker worth a name in all history.
Adlai: obligatory rothbard quote, "the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children"
decimation: I have a friend who made his teenagres pay the utility bills
mircea_popescu: i think a vanishingly small minority of parents actually adds value through parenting.
Adlai: there's a doonesbury somewhere out there where mike's dad gives him a bill for all his parenting, including his share of rent
asciilifeform: not every parent is a visisector
mircea_popescu: * Adlai is a bit puzzled by the incentives arising from s.qntr's share model... authors are incentivized to write the longest possible article which will pass review, while the editor is incentivized to pick the shortest available article on a specific subject << works i guess.
BingoBoingo: Well, there's a timeline to answer how beyond what is contained in the listing document. Any or all of the methods proposed there may be considered.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> larval cycle where you are supported by external wires (parents, student debt, etc.) << clearly spending your own money as you see fit should be a better position than begging mom/govt. so if that's what it is then... yeah, waste it. it sucks.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or is there a set of staff authors ... ? << set as in brothel. anyone can submit for an audition
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> so regards to finding additional author, on the about page i added must be in wot + 6 months #b-a logs, i'm happy to loosen requirements if article quality is up to par, what do people think? << yah if they're in the wot at all and they submit something that's decent should be ok
Adlai: i'm imagining a situation where authors are competing, i realize that qntra has a smaller author pool atm
asciilifeform: quite a bit of very interesting (though, naturally, unproven) turds on cryptome today
decimation: One cannot imagine a better situation for allowing bureaucrats unlimited freedom of action than to create a massive propaganda apparatus (hollywood) which everyone (including dear leaders) believe to be the truth.
cazalla: if anything it will act as motivation for them to contribute a lot of quality content and possibly earn more than they would have by publishing it elsewhere
cazalla: Adlai, providing contributors adhere to quality guidelines, i don't see long articles to be a problem for the website
Adlai is a bit puzzled by the incentives arising from s.qntr's share model... authors are incentivized to write the longest possible article which will pass review, while the editor is incentivized to pick the shortest available article on a specific subject
Adlai: firing squads take a long time and use too much manpower (Eichmann et al, 1942)
asciilifeform admits he expected an honest, traditional firing squad, like a chump.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems as if you're still thinking of the whole thing as a natural disaster - rather than open biological warfare by usg against own subjects
BingoBoingo: Well, ethylene oxide seems like a promising canidate agent
asciilifeform: there was, if i recall, a trailer for neal stephenson's 'anathem'
assbot: GOD IS A GAMER by Ravi Subramanian - The official book video - YouTube
Adlai: ok, this is the first time i've watched a video trailer for a book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruba41fF1Ag
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: if so, the simplest device is... a bank. the infected cash is brought to the bank, and given to the hapless devil inside. afterwards, one walks six metres to the cash machine and withdraws clean cash (generally, where i live, only newly-printed money is ever placed into the cassette, to avoid jamming rollers.) << Out I get some used, but pressed bills out of the cash machine
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if so, the simplest device is... a bank. the infected cash is brought to the bank, and given to the hapless devil inside. afterwards, one walks six metres to the cash machine and withdraws clean cash (generally, where i live, only newly-printed money is ever placed into the cassette, to avoid jamming rollers.)
mats_cd03: i know a guy that knows a guy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everything for the occasion. Maybe eventually a staff? Qntra only pays in equity though.
asciilifeform: or is there a set of staff authors ... ?
BingoBoingo: Well, writing sample as audition seems like a solid process
cazalla: so regards to finding additional author, on the about page i added must be in wot + 6 months #b-a logs, i'm happy to loosen requirements if article quality is up to par, what do people think?
RagnarDanneskjol: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2014#869192 << cazalla - one day hanging by a thread, next day listing on biggest exchange in teh universe http://www.troll.me/images/y-u-no/y-u-no-wait.jpg ☝︎
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform finds it quite impossible to imagine anything other than a mutilated corpse following 'won't believe what happens next' phrase. << Woodchipper fan fiction
asciilifeform finds it quite impossible to imagine anything other than a mutilated corpse following 'won't believe what happens next' phrase.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, cryptography does not work this way. you can walk around for years as a zombie, while not knowing that you're really blown your brains out years ago and ought to rest in the grave.
mircea_popescu: provided he's given peashooters as a kid and encouraged to shoot himself till he gets tired of it.
mircea_popescu: ideally, by the time he's old enough to have a gun he has enough experience with peashooters to know better.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not hard to see why schneier and his owner would tell us 'don't homebrew crypto', but the propaganda has a basis in honest fact - average 'k00l d00dz' programmer will hang himself with own gun
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in cryptography, every constant's a salt. you're well advised to change ALL constants << and turn wrong knob, die by pollard rho or similar.
mircea_popescu: hey, its a parade over here!
mircea_popescu: i suppose the user-friendliest solution would be to get a cheapo cert and then redirect it via mod_rewrite
mircea_popescu: but it's a news website.
kakobrekla: also is there a point in ssl if its optional
Adlai: well, the certificate is issued for a different domain name
mircea_popescu: cazalla yeah put in a footer somewhere.
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.QNTR <<< so this is a little bit of news
Adlai: it seems as though all the software is in place, and this is obviously a feature that the average trader loves to use
Adlai: a link is a link even when it's not a url :)
kakobrekla: as for the infrastructure - i am quite confident they have less than half of what they had a year ago
Adlai: that doesn't make them derpy, just drastically lacking in infrastructure... which is a little derpy for an exchange
thestringpuller: like a directory of sort.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla they all got raped because they thought themselves smarter than the b-a crowd.
kakobrekla: cautious in a situation like this.
mircea_popescu: it's not a slur, it's true :D
Adlai: LOL i didn't realize one could "welsh" on a bet, that's a new slur to me
kakobrekla: just retarded in a different way.
Apocalyptic: i didn't ask about rating, but he made some voice here a while ago
gribble: Error: "getturst" is not a valid command.
Adlai: there will always be demand for blood diamonds, you can't put the Magnificent Bitcoin Gem on a ring
nubbins`: Adlai, chetty uh.. sterilization has a specific meaning in economics (not sure if you're having a lel or not)
Adlai: rather than shorts causing a sell today and a buy later, shorts here require a buy then sell, and later on a buy followed by a sell of the lender cashing out
Adlai: my theory is there's no single manipulator. traders want to short, shorting requires borrowing the contract, borrowing requires lenders, lending requires buying. so trader A has to buy before trader B can short.
Adlai: background: bitfinex created a cloud mining contract for a fixed time period, so its value *should* continuously decrease... but by making it possible to trade and loan as margin, they've created quite a bizarre asset which has everybody in the forums and reddit screaming about manipulation now
xanthyos: A colt, the foal of a donkey.
xanthyos: Lowly and riding on a donkey,
Adlai: expired batteries are pretty gross though. i'd rather throw out an appliance than clean a bay that held expired batteries.
Adlai: one of my earliest memories of being factually incorrect is being informed that cash is the dirtiest object i touch on a daily basis
xanthyos: played a section of the opening music to disney's animated robin hood
xanthyos: it was a meme back in 1999