asciilifeform: because he ran into him and barfed for a year straight

asciilifeform: like dividing by 0.

asciilifeform: decimation: to be fair, even discussing its 'whereabouts' is wrong straight off the bat.

asciilifeform: iirc he lives somewhere in canada on a meagre pension

asciilifeform: mr k is a full-bore crackpot, sorta like yours truly but with heavier radiation damage

asciilifeform: homomorphisms from homologies << doug hofstadter spent a good chunk of his life bashing head against this

asciilifeform: i meant the bro << ah i've no idea. found dead in a dark alley, iirc, but nothing publicly out afaik beyond that

asciilifeform: but stimulating reading

asciilifeform does not endorse mr k wholesale

asciilifeform: ^ also old net crackpot

asciilifeform: http://richardkulisz.blogspot.com/search/label/yudkowsky << another mr y h8t3r

asciilifeform: for what, i do not know

asciilifeform: he was drummed out of school as a youth

asciilifeform: fuck if i know

asciilifeform: mr y had a breakdown of sort

asciilifeform: the 'flip' happened, iirc, some time in the early 2000s when his brother died of mysterious death

asciilifeform: at the time he actually was trying to scarf up all there was written re: ai, hoping to build something new

asciilifeform: he wrote back, seemed like a c00l d00d

asciilifeform: my first pgp-gram actually.

asciilifeform: wrote to him in the '90s while also a kid

asciilifeform: was once an enthusiastic self-taught kid

asciilifeform: thing is, he wasn't always a charlatan

asciilifeform: there was no interesting reply.

asciilifeform: i did say to mr y 'inventing circuit breaker before discovering electric current'

asciilifeform: who is stronger, the elephant or the whale.

asciilifeform: so cannot rightfully apprehend what happens

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't tried this

asciilifeform: and so he declared jihad

asciilifeform: but thinking about it was giving some of mr y's gurlz nightmares

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha done

asciilifeform: bitstein: my hard disk has the 2nd largest, i suspect.

asciilifeform: bitstein: google groups has most of it, but no longer searchable.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the idea is that the mega-ai appears and has, somehow (forget physics for a moment) a total record of all things

asciilifeform: bitstein: she was one of the more interesting folks i ever saw on the net. entirely vanished, long ago.

asciilifeform: bitstein: penny is inimitable and timeless

asciilifeform: 'is' (in their view) in the same way as the 'you' who goes to the toilet and then comes back 'is' you.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why would anyone care about some simulation << in mr y's world, the simulated organism -is- you

asciilifeform: no idea if still worx

asciilifeform: but in all fairness i haven't pushed the knob on that account in years

asciilifeform: just told that 'the likes of you ain't welcom'

asciilifeform: not quite

asciilifeform: http://lesswrong.com/user/asciilifeform/overview

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: admit << me.

asciilifeform: at least, encountered in one place

asciilifeform: his forum housed the largest collection of people who showed symptoms of having a brain which i ever encountered prior to #b-a

asciilifeform: into harmless masturbatorium

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm half convinced that yudkowsky's job is to tie up the brain cpu cycles of folks who could amount to something

asciilifeform: specifically that any 'superintelligence' not crafted under his tutelage would inevitably turn into a world-burner of superstupid

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: basically he proposed that intelligence per se could behave like fire.

asciilifeform: sorta like fire doesn't distinguish between 'designated' fuel and your house

asciilifeform: in his doctrine, it wasn't specified as something they would necessarily do to reproduce in the animal sense, but as a side-effect of operation

asciilifeform: from an illustration where a malevolent apparatus converts all of the matter in the universe into paperclips.

asciilifeform: this is also called 'paperclipping'

asciilifeform: out of the remaining universe (how? ask him, not me)

asciilifeform: 'phoom' is, in his cosmology, the conflagration resulting from a 'non-friendly' (read: not designed under mr y's tutelage) thinking machine which sets to work improving and crafting copies of self

asciilifeform: the vinge essay is pertinent to the 'phoom' (actual name, iirc, for the apocalypse mechanism mr y believes in)

asciilifeform: much.

asciilifeform: betcha he croaked convinced to the hilt he'd be ancestor-simmed.

asciilifeform: they have... phaith!

asciilifeform: decimation: never mind that not one could describe the first thing about building a computer which does not barf regularly

asciilifeform tried

asciilifeform: possibly '3rd rate' is uncharitable. but he is quite unreadable today

asciilifeform: !s vinge

asciilifeform: vinge was (is?) a maths prof who went off the reservation and turned into a 3rd rate sf writer

asciilifeform has an ancient copy of this, printed on matrix printer, yellowed with ages

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the actual founding document of mr y's garbage is actually this: http://mindstalk.net/vinge/vinge-sing.html

asciilifeform: (as described in http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rage-of-cultural-elites.html )

asciilifeform: using the phrase in the derisive chinese sense

asciilifeform: as seen elsewhere on the planet. cocksucking sycophants of the most degenerate imaginable kind

asciilifeform: 'public intellectuals'

asciilifeform: that entire social set.

asciilifeform: ^ them.

asciilifeform: !s digirati

asciilifeform: !s jaron lanier

asciilifeform: he actually proclaimed a fatwa, since deleted (iirc) justifying the murder of anyone who might risk bringing about this situation

asciilifeform: no it was him

asciilifeform: trinque: aha

asciilifeform: when tech was actually kinda moving, '70s-80s, and a number of things looked quasi-plausible with one eye closed

asciilifeform: trinque: it was slightly more interesting before was obvious sc4mz0r1ng

asciilifeform: 'uploading'

asciilifeform: trinque: they have a literal version of this!

asciilifeform: 'able' because cthulhu will wish it ?

asciilifeform: or transesterification ?

asciilifeform: no mention of trans fats?

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: much less anything actually hard like ai

asciilifeform: -zero- actual work on lickliderian or engelbartian 'intelligence amplification' concept from these bozos

asciilifeform: note that not even remotely true as printed on the crate

asciilifeform: him.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: who, as i understand, is paying

asciilifeform: take it up with thiel

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scUdQuy6SZc

asciilifeform: but the only suitable material, in the old days, was meat

asciilifeform: can make a computer out of near-anything

asciilifeform: it is how i always explain it to n00bs

asciilifeform: peter 1 introduced bureaucracy in ru, and is worshipped for it

asciilifeform: computer of meat