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mircea_popescu: business is all about identifying these things, writing the correct numbers down, and then comparing sums.
asciilifeform: btw if e.g. rk plant gets eaten, lose considerably moar than ~1k, there's a great bit of hand-craft involved in making these.
asciilifeform: btw it dun matter of what the box is made, or that it resembles suitcase (other than possibly for orc customs). the dimensions thing is applied by monkey on the usa end.
BingoBoingo: May mean reaching out to lobbes or Mocky and setting up a bit of a road trip
asciilifeform: i'ma defo ask, and play the 'phone tag', like last time. but expect similar result.
BingoBoingo: Important part of cardboard box exercise is likely to mean finding airport with COPA desk asciilifeform checks in at rather than United or whoever doing a codeshare on the to panama link
mircea_popescu: in that case, ask them/.
asciilifeform: not bought yet, can't buy until all irons pass test
mircea_popescu: then none of the foregoingd applies.
mircea_popescu: possibly dealing with typically ustardian faux thing, where the corner grocery store misrepresents itself as "bank". except "oh, we can't do wires"
mircea_popescu: so buy ticket at airport ?
asciilifeform: when i bought ticket, the annoying fucks wouldn't even take prepay of the surcharge when selling ticket, proclaimed 'you pay it at airport'
mircea_popescu: if they carry, the dude with ruler is welcome to stuff it, you bought ticket from your airline not from him/
mircea_popescu: i have had them carry in excess of a quarter ton for me. ASIDE from luggage.
mircea_popescu: ask coppa if they will carry.
asciilifeform: in the usa end, where one goes an' gets the ticket punched.
asciilifeform: several folx got sent away with 'nope' in the queue.
asciilifeform: if it were just a q of 'hey i'ma bring a 3rd and see if they eat it' would happily bring 3rd. but there was in fact a d00d with a scale there, and calculator, adding up box0...boxN and if >100kg then 'nope'
mircea_popescu: at least compared to what idiocy passes for business as usual over there.
mircea_popescu: risking a few k to not have to waste another 6 months dithering about how "oh, i guess we should talk to people o hurr durr we have not what to sell" is a genius move,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ben ended up with customs pawing ~all~ of his boxes on acct of the excess.
mircea_popescu: this may be a very good deal, seeing how pizarro is eating your bone marrow, at a fixed monthly cost, and you do two trips a year, worth a few u each.
mircea_popescu: IF indeed the box is carried, and IF indeed customs want money, you can just abandon it, fo ra fixed cost of whatever you put in it.
mircea_popescu: specifically, have you asked copa if they will carry a box for you. this is not an euphemism for a piece of luggage, it is a straight name for a cardboard fucking box. it is also not related to bv's misadventure with sleeping and routing and w/e.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, fwiw the story you're telling does not convince me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i intend to pack the crates 'to the waterline' , just like last go.
BingoBoingo: The problems at Customes rose out of impromptu third bag getting left in Brasil, arriving to Uruguay on a different plane than Herr Vulpes
mircea_popescu: well, imo getting a lot of gear there asap would be very much beneficial for everyone.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: indeed it was. there was a grunt with a scale, weighed and tape-measured each trunk.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The failure in that run was at the US check in counter. There's a max weight on any piece designated "luggage" rather than "cargo", hard limit enforced by baggage handler's work rules
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'take decade to fill rack' is less of a problem than seems -- if could fully tenant e.g. 32 rk's or equiv, already pays for entire dc bill.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes , if recall, somehow botched , so that even his 1us ended up weighed and taxed like silver bricks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingostani customs is a circus one could almost write book about. they for instance didn't give a rat's arse re the 1us. but demanded to know why 6x 'high tech!111 omfg'-looking rk's in the carry-on. ( rk pilot plant was assembled on-site, in hotel... )
asciilifeform: anyffing bigger, gets 'cargo' treatment, and full customs orchestra.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ~with~ the surcharge , is what one gets from this vendor )
mircea_popescu: i dunno what this max load is.
asciilifeform: well i was 5kg short of the max load, so 3rd box would've had to be <5, even supposing they'd take another 300 and eat it
asciilifeform: funnily enuff i did. ( in fact was uncertain until last moment that the actual 2 crates would fly, the co's www is retarded)
mircea_popescu: "hey, i also have this one box, can you carry it ?"
mircea_popescu: imo you should ask when you buy tickets
asciilifeform: last time i rtfm'd , 'copa' (the 1 usable co.) permitted over-mass XOR over-dimension .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you can actually ship an oversized box can't you ? or do usg airlines not sell this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a calculable function. 4 'heavy' (32cpu opterons) added up to just 5kg short of the max permitted 'overweight'. anything lighter (e.g. rk plant) poses no pain from mass pov. but the suitcases i (specifically) bought for expeditions, are in fact of max permitted phys. dimensions. (w/ 2 u in ea. + paddings and fixators.)
mircea_popescu: might be worth it to put a coupla us in a box, test whether can be taken through ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ones for mircea_popescu , are looking to cost 1-1.5 k ($) ea. (still hunting for the exact machines we use, the old seller seems to have vanished) . rk plant will cost ~1k , not counting drives (and switch, which, grrr, not found yet!) for a plant of 16 subunits. the remaining 1u is to be apu1 (4x) , not drawn yet so i daren't say exactly what costs, expect also in vicinity of 1k (sans disk).
mircea_popescu: the ones you;re taking
asciilifeform: material ? depends what's in the 1u in question, neh
mircea_popescu: how much is the material cost per u ?
asciilifeform: ^ 560.5 $ per 1u . keep in mind that asciilifeform for 'belt and suspenders' made a lengthier than strictly necessary expedition . ( in fact used all but 1 of the padding days, walking with BingoBoingo to hunt for missing small parts, tuning boxen , etc )
asciilifeform: transport costs from 1st exped. , for thrd-completeness.
mircea_popescu: ah, tickets not that expensive ?
mircea_popescu: so it's like 1k/u transport costs as it is uhh
asciilifeform: 4u is the most that can be reliably carried as 'konsoomer luggage' .
asciilifeform: 1u chassis actually fits 16 rk with comfortable air flow. and their ps. but no GB switch seems to exist, of requisite size, that'd fit inside, even if stripped of own chassis.
asciilifeform: well, half the density, i.e. double the transport cost.
mircea_popescu: 2u niot the end of the word is it ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 23:58:39 asciilifeform: meanwhile in frustrations, for third day digging for a usable 1u-embeddable GB lan switch for piz , found none
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of 'starting to bump against an objective limit', it's starting to look like ethernet switch bulk is the limiting reactant for 'how many rk/similar can pack into box'
asciilifeform: i actually had tlp pegged in my head as a dour, aged, 'feminism'-flavoured chix
asciilifeform: in iirc '09 when asciilifeform 1st encountered tlp , thought 'insufferable, but occasionally emits interesting point by sheer accident'
mircea_popescu: "i thought he was a great guy, right, so then i moved in with him, and OMFG HE IS INSUFFERABLE
asciilifeform read maybe 10%, max, of tlp corpus, for this reason. it's just barely digestible to asciilifeform's enzymes.
mircea_popescu: add to that the FUCKING INSANE tlp being annoying as fuck, i'm having a blogging crisis over here
mircea_popescu: i don't think i have the stomach for more ; which is why the publish-with-drescriptions-instead-of-links model, it's the choice of this or not fucking publish at all.
mircea_popescu: i spent 60% of the time with that article hunting for references.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf i'm going to do here, but it's becoming a serious problem, i'm starting to bump against an objective limit in reality.
asciilifeform: sometimes i get notion that the hunted item is in mircea_popescu's www, but difficult to test given no search box .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if there's one of those <A href=[word description] broken links, the most useful thing is the link, if known
mircea_popescu prays at the shrine of lost references
asciilifeform: there's coupla moar of these, but i'ma leave off, evidently mircea_popescu still fillin'em in
mircea_popescu: also because missing the link.
asciilifeform: in #20 'Learn how to turn shit off, what' also borked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nah, it's not expected to work atm. trying to figure out what i want here.
asciilifeform: ( is it meant to ? )
asciilifeform: dun seem to display the keyword on any of my browser tho
mircea_popescu: deliberate. cuz it's the keyword, repeats throughot article
asciilifeform: 'masturbated to the same exact theme' in #2 has a 'b' but no terminator
mircea_popescu: yes, missing the actual link ;/
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-catfish-the-real-danger-of-social-media-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Catfish: The Real Danger Of Social Media. Adnotated.
asciilifeform: for thrd-completeness, also painfully missing are back/fwd linkages a la phf, but these need working date/era handling before i even dare to touch the q
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 14:28:11 shrysr_: thanks asciilifeform and BingoBoingo. also since 'pki' throws up stuff like 'napkin' - is there a way to narrow this down in the search?
asciilifeform was muchly hoping not to end up birthing whole logotron with solely own hands .
asciilifeform: possibly lobbes et al will beat me to it, submit a patch.
asciilifeform will use same scheme as in phuctor for the latter
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quoted strings? indeed still gotta bake'em ( see in readme.txt, they're on the listof missing essentials , and errybody grumbles, i'ma do these next )
mircea_popescu: i specificalty recall describing this situation in munchen whereby i took cab driver all over bars, trying to find some with decent seating, didn't find any, at end dude was like "well, there's no more left on the list, you have to sit here" and i was like "bitch, i dun have to anything"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, more importantly, how do i searc for the string "don't have" ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 04:13:06 phf: fixing an old style link is then cheap e.g. for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758070 i parse out 758070, (entryref 758070), then render the url (which is standard url rendering function) which uses whatever date that's stored in the message record, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 in this particular case they happen to be the same, but the point is that this is not a regex transform. essentially i
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931353 << phf yer missing the point , i need so that http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 AND http://btcbase.org/log/1945-07-16#758070 go to same thing ! ☝︎
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 07:12:48 mircea_popescu: ie, not only im never gonna mandate inca's "ntp", but i'm not even going to make anything like it.
asciilifeform: my contention 'clock is luxury' is based on thought similar to mircea_popescu's, i.e. it dun make sense to bother unless yer doing shortwave or similar application where the intervals gotta be utterly fixed or no go entirely
asciilifeform: oh hm apparently i was wrong re the cheaper rb -- chinese sell ~pocket-sized unit . but still headache, would have to interface it somehow.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931361 << imho clock is a luxury and in foreseeable future i'ma only load essentials into the crates. but the good noose is, rubidium has halflife of ~5e10 yrs and aint setting off any alarms. while cesium clock uses the stable 133 . problem is rather that the buggers are heavy and can't be had , seems, in anyffin smaller than 2U .
asciilifeform: hence wai i posed the q. maybe trinque or lobbes , serious wwwists, can crack this one.
mircea_popescu: let this sit for a little we think more of it.
asciilifeform: it'd have to by the ugly-as-arse /log/chan/index#index or sumsuch
mircea_popescu: this becomes quite inconvenient then, end up with duplicate field or wtf.
asciilifeform: ikr. i also thought !
asciilifeform tried various browsers, all behave to spec, i.e. none send url-cum-anchor as part of get or post ( ff and chrome do put it in referrer, but it's quite useless for this job, i need a scheme where url entered by hand or otherwise no ref hdr , is valid )
asciilifeform: or hrm that's a refer url mircea_popescu