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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never can remember which of
the ex-relevant colonial powers are not in which instruments. eu except britain, nato aparently w/o sweden, but with norway,
there's something else without norway and so on
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
the
two are economically about
the same size, but
the dutch army would count as a half regiment of
the
turkish.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated lulz,
turkish-dutch relations at historic low over dutch deciding
they have
the power
to forbid
turkish foreign minister visit
the
turkish consulate in holland. because hey, if it works on random pick-up artist dork, why not on
turkish foreign minister.
mircea_popescu: yeah, basic element of
the pile of "lalalacanthear" aka "left"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the fundamental problem with "human rights" / "our democracy" ie humanism -- if mothers empower sons
to escape fatherly punishment,
the incentive on
the 2nd sons is
to be mothers rather
than fathers.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: "if you care about your data integrity, our
tool is not for you"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: the endless pile of "i would like
to perform what i consider a basic operation of
type X" "here have a shell script of awk and sed"
Framedragger: (i'll just mention
that for persistent data, you are supposed
to use bind mounts, not internal docker storage.)
ben_vulpes: let us not mention
the ever-shifting api,
the utter failure of
to do MOTHERFUCKING GARBAGE COLLECTION,
the miserable and useless state in which it leaves disks
Framedragger: ah i may have read it, did it mention DBs,
too, as in "why
the fuck would you put db in
there"
ben_vulpes: "the hft guy" wrote what i consider
the canonical beating, mirrors my experience quite exactly
Framedragger: i have some good memories from using bsd jails some years ago.
the core concept of isolation (fs, process, network, etc) is not bad. providing integrated interface not a bad
thing, either. problem with docker is it doesn't do it in a consistent way, is
too bloated, is ~proprietary +/-, and does
the abstraction in a way
that invites lazy people
to be even more lazy and reckless.
ben_vulpes happy
to chime in on docker shit parade
Framedragger: currently stealing booze from
that inventory. some good old shit in
there i
tell you
trinque: !~step1 on
the road
to recovery!
Framedragger: ah
trinque up'd himself just
to remind me
that docker is shit lol
trinque: that's why
they love docker; automated jars of shit
mircea_popescu: "oh, nobody uses X anymore". dude... if i wanted
to accessorize i'd just read cosmo.
mircea_popescu: problem with
these hipster solutions is
they're only good for about half a year.
Framedragger: apparently offloads export/computation
to neo4j, a hipsta graph db
mircea_popescu: phf aha. quite spurious failed civilisation(s),
that continent
phf: "you want meaning in your life? lol. here's 50 books of meaningless rituals.
that you have
to perform daily.
the smarter you are
the more rituals you get. knock yourself out."
☟︎ phf: it does, hence
the daily puja part
phf: indian philosophy seems
to be "if everything's fucked, just eat, fuck and do your daily puja"
mircea_popescu: no wonder indian diaspora is so fucking happy. gypsy fucking culture
through and
tyhrough.
mircea_popescu: these great papier mache roofs
that work fine as roofs until it finally rains, heh.
mircea_popescu: so "consumer fs is great if you don't use it". hey, check it out, exactly like
the us army, or for
that matter cia, apparently.
mircea_popescu: no wonder "cloud computing" and all
the rest of
the ineptorade.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz,
trilema serves
the 350kb zuleika story in ~500ms. FILESYSTEM IS ABOUT AS SLOW!
Framedragger: yeah
the sarcasm is probably not black enough
tbh
diana_coman: I
took
that
to be very-much-needed-sarcasm ; Framedragger knows best whether it was still innocent hope instead
mircea_popescu: no i meant
the epic "justified by
the other amazing parts of
the fs, and when we look at
the other parts we'll see glorious code
that works"
mircea_popescu: (denouement : eulora work is pretty much EXACTLY
the above
two
things.)
Framedragger: i'm sure it's justified by
the other amazing parts of
the fs, and when we look at
the other parts we'll see glorious code
that works
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
the mystery of
the black box
that manages
to require 59kb
to store 8 x 4byte directories, ie a whooping 99.99% wastage....
Framedragger: but good
to have concrete reproducible data
to back it up, sure.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you sure you want benchmarks? /me
thinks it's a lost cause
Framedragger: you're right,
the growth *won't* be linear. but...
Framedragger: 59M for 1000tx. *before* symlinks are stored. (granted,
they'll be small)
Framedragger: well. if we do linear extrapolation, bout 14400
terabytes for
transaction index given 250mil
transactions....
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so basically each index is an extra
terrabytwe
mircea_popescu: i've not seen any. would be more interesting
to
test for
the hole manually by fuzzing on
testnet
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: which means
that i don't see how it could work even given mystery-amazing fs performance (...), *space-wise*.
mircea_popescu: but understand it's not
the case "this - works, replacement might not"
Framedragger: *59M* for 1000 'transactions', *before* symlinks are even saved. just
the folders (7-level-deep folders.)
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't surprise me if a corner case were discovered where
THIS permits doublepsend
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 03:53 Framedragger will check
tomorrow if
the insane size was from his shitty c. but actually, probably not - in ext3/ext4, a folder is an inode and an inode points
to unique data block - minimum size of which is 4k. given an expansive recursive
tree, you get what you get.
mircea_popescu: (note
that at no point
the preservation of satoshi's indexing scheme was contemplated)
mircea_popescu: the insanity of putting such a
thing
there, as opposed
to you know,
THE FUCKING WALLET
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the correct solution has
to go along
the lines of "nope. only one block."