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mircea_popescu: roughtly reads to me like a disertation on surgery written by waiters next to the hospital on the basis of what they overheard during their jobs would read if i were a surgeon
asciilifeform: more of a forum gizmo
asciilifeform: it isn't a wiki in the usual sense
asciilifeform: if someone suspects a diddled coin, and one is there, it will be found.
asciilifeform: (for non-usa folks, a nickel is a five cent coin, having a smooth edge.)
BingoBoingo: Very, but few offer the depth a nickle does.
BingoBoingo: But seriously is there any justification for the current design of the US nickle other than as a thing to hollow?
ThickAsThieves: bots that were meant to be have a way of appearing over time
cazalla: asciilifeform, who knows, i'm just saying if i could write a bot, i'd be doing other things, i cannot so i write news, nothing wrong with that
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Who's to say there won't at some point be a "numbers station" that broadcasts Qntra?
ThickAsThieves: but a bot that can pm articles
ThickAsThieves: make a qntra ticker bot
cazalla: damn it, have a post ready to go :\
ThickAsThieves: it's a wildly risky stock to buy
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/how-much-is-a-share-of-sqntr-worth/
asciilifeform: the script k1dd13z provide a diversionary smoke screen for the actual jobs.
asciilifeform: various sec flaws being 'hangout' leaks is a hypothesis compatible with their continued active exploitation by their authors (usg)
assbot: How much is a share of S.QNTR worth? - Btc Alpha
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: the answer. http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/how-much-is-a-share-of-sqntr-worth/
assbot: Bob and Alice Discover a Mac OPSEC Issue - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab
fluffypony: would love to grab a beer or a food
mats_cd03: currently residing in the US so thats a concern for me
mircea_popescu: basically... it's a thing lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture a future net where something akin to wot is baked into the basic routing mechanism. so, a billion derps can make a request and there will be no transmission back until all the actual people get what they came for. etc.
asciilifeform: but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large.
thickasthieves: leaves a wake of dos
asciilifeform: jurov: better in the sense that there was a contemporary translation that is still largely readable to modern germans without an archaeological bent.
asciilifeform: do we have a german here?
xanthyos: sorry the sentence fragment "*was* resolved between now and..." caused a temporal causality grammar glitch
mircea_popescu: HelpPlease prolly hasn't propagated yet, give it a little.
mircea_popescu: there would have been a time for such a word. << It's not like this was the only opportunity for her to die and she had to take it.
mircea_popescu: not a fucking parking lot, yet.
mircea_popescu: this wasn't a time when theatre was ancient and respected.
mike_c: you've done worse. i swear you posted a couple articles of gobbedly gook that had secret messages.
asciilifeform: (or train to take over a father's bezzlatron)
asciilifeform: re: actual people: let's take maxwell. notice that, in addition to lacking reddit and dope, he also never had to --- work for a living.
mircea_popescu: i should do a shakespeare once just to mess with people.
mircea_popescu: this was read, over screams and bellows, in a crummy theatre, and people fucking understood it ?!
mircea_popescu: bounce incidentally, since you quoth macbeth. "She should have died hereafter; there would have been a time for such a word. To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
asciilifeform still puzzled on how adding a trilema post to qntra fixes the broken concept of 'news.' but perhaps is simply not the target audience ?
asciilifeform: may well be that this is like draining the hydrocephalic's skull to turn him into a normal man
asciilifeform: is this how we bake, e.g., a new james clerk maxwell?
mircea_popescu: yield is well above a third, too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one has to have a whole lotta things. literacy is a good start, of course. the actual kind.
bounce: I think you're a bit spoiled here; try and compare reddit derpage and tardery with the complete inability to even follow the simplest instructions when they're paid to do exactly that in places with real modern day rampant illiteracy
assbot: A very unfair perspective. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/ <<
bounce: emergence of a middle class was a bit of a giveaway. increased life expectancy, better literacy all-around, lots of little stuff. life got a lot shinier for a great many people, to the point of bringing a great many more people in the world.
mircea_popescu: and yet... that 2nd brain will never function. all it takes is a little more doping and suddenly you *don't * have a semiconductor
bounce: bit of a... paradox perhaps, that improved life circumstances yield a better baseline but a lower top yield
mircea_popescu: a child is conceived. he is healthy. inside his cranial cavity, among water, thin strings of protein run every which way.
bounce: currently I think the effect is a bit midway. much larger bulk of apes, lower relative yield of persons despite much better all around education(!), still a net absolute plus, but in a sense a disappointing one
mircea_popescu: to quote the teflon don speaking to sam giancanna, "all they got is a tape. let 'em play it 'till they're sick of it"
asciilifeform: perhaps. given as i'm not even sure there's a game
asciilifeform: in reality, you have to patch into satellite and show him eating the kitten on prime time tv. for a week straight. to have even small effect.
bounce: that puts a bit of a damper of how many people you can remember to be important
mircea_popescu: bounce that's a dubious theory. i don't credit it so much.
asciilifeform: yes, in the popular imagination, 'exposing' something is as simple as printing a few words.
asciilifeform: unless you - personally - planted a video bug in the toilet stall where ebama fucks his interns, and brags to them about zapping the white man with obola.
mircea_popescu: see, the distance between bounce's theory and asciilifeform's practice is that in theory there's a lot of things that aren't actually fouind in practice ?
mircea_popescu: if the sec is a puppet, if senior counsel for the sec ~= housewife
bounce: the sec is more or less a puppet anyway; look into the commentary around the flash crash, esp. the nanex guys
asciilifeform: airborne in the sense of, if you want to stand next to the patient and live, wear a suit appropriate for bathing in sarin.
bounce: apparently "senior counsel" doesn't mean "chief dealmaker". so she's in a position that sounds important but is essentially toothless when it's not about bullying random other parties into filling in a bunch of forms. this phenomenon isn't exactly new.
thickasthieves: add a search to it and ur golden!
mircea_popescu: forget being an independent agent. she cant' even deal. she's not even a representative.
mircea_popescu: lacks the authority to make a deal in her purported field of expertise
mircea_popescu: and a few millions lawyers, doctors, journalists and other liberal professions,
bounce: the essential part seems to be how many shaved apes can become people, ie can become truly important. and this may or may not be limited within a sphere of influence, but there too we've managed to specialise, and multiple spheres are now more feasible.
bounce: debatabel. we have a lot more opportunity, if perhaps and arguable less incentive, for not-yet-people to become people.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i didn't get any last year, we had hail proceeded by a 5 day heat wave, that was the end of them
asciilifeform: bounce: there're a lot more of those around than there were in 1700 << no. there aren't.
bounce: leaving aside "acts of nature", news is created by the doings of people. there're a lot more of those around than there were in 1700. if you assume only the top N most important bits are important, then that number stays constant. if you assume the top N% is important, then the absolute number of newsworthy things would likely adjust with the headcount
mircea_popescu: still a green grocer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to follow that model. qntra isn't a seller of 0-dioxin, 1814-equivalent tomatoes, but a greengrocer where they don't hire retards and don't mix shit in the fruit sala.d ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that an article per day of actually interesting matter happens in the world. at least, not where a reporter can get to it.
thickasthieves: would qntra be interested in some logo mockups? i wont be offended if you dont use any, i just think it makes a create letterform
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mircea_popescu: for one thing, every news outlet to date, pando, gawker, you name it, was started with a nest egg and no perspective to make money.
mircea_popescu: well, i suspect there's a lot of unresolved questions in there.
asciilifeform: mass news and derp are inseparable in my head. perhaps one can have one without the other, but that's not unlike a unipolar magnet.
thickasthieves: in that case, no need to be a public co
asciilifeform: i confess that i'm seeing a perpetuum mobile, but, 'this time it'll be different, we're using 6061 instead of villard de honnecourt's oak !'
thickasthieves: wouldnt it require a drastic amount of money though, the more time passes and shares are created?
cazalla: punkman: just dusted off ancient juicer, still works http://i.imgur.com/eFs13T0.jpg <<< i've got a juicepresso, fkn thing is great after drinking the previous night
peterl: so people will be buying shares to get a part of the income
mircea_popescu: Breaking : A Trilema Article I wrote about a Song I wrote about some Music I wrote.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> "free software a mediocre idea" oh well <<< who ?
mike_c: but if you have a core set of tags it is easy to have finance page, legal page, editorial page, etc. (this is what I would want, perhaps not widely desired).
thickasthieves: possibly, the only ways for qntra shares to go up in value would be divs becoming great, or somehow closing the loop by having a way to 'spend' shares.. but at that point all you did was make an altcoin
mike_c: cazalla: suggestion: pick a reasonable set of categories (8-10?) and apply to all articles. this would allow for sections and filtering.
bounce: "free software a mediocre idea" oh well
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yes but a little reminiscent of when the stooge is told to give a check to the tangiers lol he does as he is told
cazalla: and gee i had a few too many last night
asciilifeform: or one where a fellow who owns some big iron (several hundred cpu, perhaps) walks the blockchain every day in search of strange
asciilifeform: picture a blog where some chap analyzes latest crapware, and posts reverse engineer autopsies of samples which somehow concern btc.
asciilifeform: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'
mircea_popescu: bounce my idea was to make it contrary forces. so the wordcount should result like the stuff in colorado, a splendor.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves news will have a pov. want it to or not.
mike_c: if you just want occassional useful articles, read blogs.b-a.