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mircea_popescu: (this, fwiw, carries 0 water in mp's own dungeon. girl that had no way to know hangs just along well warned one. it IS a little chilling but what can you do.)
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised how often the defense is "oh, nobody TOLD ME" when cornered.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 18:09 mircea_popescu: the ~only~ think these two fellows, mrame and fircea, ARE NOT going to engage in is any sort or kind of ancestor worship.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1627069 << i see your (nicely illustrated, heh) point, mk. ridoinculous has to be called if it's ridoinculous, sure ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why, did i imply it was a train ?
asciilifeform: graf zepellin was a train on mircea_popescu's home planet ?!
mircea_popescu: o, right, there's no trains where you live. well... it's basically a tin can on wheels.
davout would love to visit asciilifeform and mircea_popescu's kindergartens
asciilifeform: iirc this was standard, and on hindenburg also, each held about 20 mircea_popescus in comfortable little rooms
mircea_popescu: (taking schoolgirl to abandoned / out of service train and fucking her is, i expect, kindergarten-universal yes.)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many people took a ho over to graf zepellin and fucked her there, during the 30s.
mircea_popescu: presumably tyhe people who lost the tanker.
asciilifeform: just -- to the grief of many kriegsmarine folk -- slow
mircea_popescu: what's the valve gonna do.
asciilifeform: no, the other kingstons
mircea_popescu: having a boat that can self-destruct is not.
asciilifeform: killing pirates is quite kosher per 'law of the sea' last i knew
mircea_popescu: (and if you're going to run an illegal boat ... in what sense was it hijacked by pirates. already was pirate yes ?)
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how that's uninsurable -- it's not even legal.
asciilifeform: send the detonation code ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:07 ben_vulpes: i figured the boats were under constant optical satellite tracking, perhaps these schmucks weren't paying for it? http://gcaptain.com/bunker-tanker-hijacked-off-somalia/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626970 << what is the tracking going to do ? suppose gf is under constant pinterst tracking. one day http://68.media.tumblr.com/925b61fbfa3cd5898068e2ba829ebd86/tumblr_n1ml06EKTm1sonex9o1_1280.jpg ☝︎
mircea_popescu: NO FUCKING ANCESTORS, THAT'S WHAT.
mircea_popescu: the ~only~ think these two fellows, mrame and fircea, ARE NOT going to engage in is any sort or kind of ancestor worship. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: two men land on deserted island, let's call them mrame pragger and fircea dopescu. they observe that a) monkeys are powerless b) there are no proper latrines and c) how dare you shit out in the open you stinked up the whole island. problem ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i do. the inconsistency that my (naive) mind spots is the "eh empire is not powerful anyway" + "there is no current alternative for X than Y" in conjunction with "how dare you use Y!!!"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:53 asciilifeform: 'no, increase the mtu!'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626949 << mtu is epically irrelevant, seeing how the ping is 50ms in this particular configuration. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:50 asciilifeform: Framedragger: nothing to do with keys
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626939 << you don't see anything suspicious about machine coming up with two 60 digit long primes within subsecond times, Framedragger ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:25 asciilifeform: i suspect that 'greybeard' holdouts, taleb et al, who 'bitcoin is a fad, will go into the sands of time, snoar' are on a sound logical footing, 'every OTHER attempt to combat massed stupidity has ultimately fallen, nuked by OurDemocracy, and the more brazen the assault, the quicker'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626936 << this may be expedient, but it is not logical footing whatsoever. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this one's way the fuck more appealing to my taste than "and everyone will be nice to everyone and there will be no poverty or suffering"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik there has not yet been birthed a civilization that has both reactors AND curbstomp-all-whiners. it is a theoretical possibility, like bricks of antimatter.
mircea_popescu: these discussions predate stilpniks, we're talking 4-3 bce
davout: asciilifeform: Sokushinbutsu according to pedopedia
davout: asciilifeform: .jp thing i reckon
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yep, afaik actually imported from india via persia and the lebanese/syrian/etc early christianhood.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:17 asciilifeform: it is in the empowered whinerism.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626930 << it bears repeating that whinerism exists to be empowered only in those already fallen shitholes that do not http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/#selection-189.38-193.69 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( more of, iirc, a hindu phenomenon than a christian one, but existed )
mircea_popescu: to this day "pleasantly scented remains" is on the orthodox list of santly merits.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, in an earlier, simpler time of "men inhabit bare stone dugouts together", the ability to not stink without washing was regarded as about half of what made monk a candiate for sainthood.
a111: 2017-02-17 <mthreat> people who don't shower in jail/prison are called 'vikings', or another name in Spanish which I forget. There is peer pressure to not stink in there.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626924 << i've been on a long term quest to find young men who are rich and not mentally retarded. it's pretty slow going. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (not inept soviet foreign minister, for the innocent)
mircea_popescu: poor gromyko. he's like in half the jokes isn't he.
asciilifeform: let the 'furnitures' in, out.
asciilifeform: eventually reached gromyko, who grumbled (su was signatory to 'anti-slavery convention') but managed to hush it up
asciilifeform: 'you would not give passports to a furniture?'
asciilifeform: she : 'whaddayamean, passports, they are my slaves'
asciilifeform: then it turns out , little problem : not all of the gurlz in said household, have passports
asciilifeform: reminds me of a folk story from late '50s. shah of iran and his wife went to visit su. she, of course, takes entire household!111 literally, furniture and all, in classic eastern tradition; ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the stroke went the wrong way!
mircea_popescu: and in other hieroglyph lulz, me at travel agent, buying tickets. calls girl, "send so and so email a picture". beet red travel agent. "you know... i needed a copy of the passport". "what did you get ?" > nudegirl.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know ? " We aim to empower our customers" = hun go wun bo = # ; "is a leading full service supplier of high-quality" = bing ding shing ling = @
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wonder why they even bother spelling that shit out by now, truly should just have pictorgraphs.
Framedragger: ...and all this is exposed to ecdsa and the particular parameters (secp256k1) not breaking... ouch.
mircea_popescu: anyway, and hence http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ and all the other countless mallets to the head of the agents of usgistan.
asciilifeform: 'Trifork is a leading full service supplier of high-quality custom-built applications and end-to-end solutions. ... We aim to empower our customers...' << lol!!
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4F2FAFEF6AC083AB068672CB38503FCAE11F169E44DE76AD841B52979BBCA0F9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1712...8737 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.184.117.147 (ssh-rsa key from 195.184.117.147 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail81.trifork.com. DK)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4F2FAFEF6AC083AB068672CB38503FCAE11F169E44DE76AD841B52979BBCA0F9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1553...9793 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.184.117.147 (ssh-rsa key from 195.184.117.147 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail81.trifork.com. DK)
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what people think, but from eg mpoe-pr's experience, it'll be something shockingly stupid and in all the joins nonsequiturial.
asciilifeform: and yes it'll be exactly like heron's steam turbine.
asciilifeform: noshit.jpg. did anybody think that mircea_popescu did it to scratch an itching toe ?
mircea_popescu: -293.0-292.1 ie, mp "who is not truly a billionaire because reasons" is more than willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of the coins.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:11 asciilifeform: and 'dead bitcoin', esp. if it dies on enemy's terms, would imho be a technogenic catastrophe, quite comparable to, e.g., chernobyl. ( not for mircea_popescu 'i'm rich anyway, fuck everyone' , and not for other folx, who might not even have any; but for the concept of 'gold sans the guard labour')
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626921 << yes. there's absolutely no argument that bitcoin dying on the enemy's terms would be an unmitigated catastrophe. chernobyl pales in comparison, it'd be on the level of "wheel is useless anyway" wisdom of dropped-on-head amerindians, or "oh pretty, spinning wheels" greek steam engine. utterly catastrophic. which is why eg http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/#selection ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and the number of weaknesses carried over from bitcoin oughta be zero.
mircea_popescu: which, considering the sad confluence of not dumb people who (self servingly, and shamelessly), "think" bitcoin code is perfect (hey, alpha dun wanna be bothered, yes ?) and imbeciles who "are being like suparheoes power rangers"... is a virtual certainty.
mircea_popescu: and the idea is to have it more or less ready before the prototype actually dies.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:08 asciilifeform: ( what ~can~ be done is to build a thing that could function in place of a dead bitcoin. )
mircea_popescu: sort-of how the bare-under-raincoat sexual behaviour is not common in men who get sucked off whenever they feel like.
mircea_popescu: wich is why rayon plant isn't engaged in the practice of "see kids, organic chemistry!" experiments
mircea_popescu: it's a not terrible "garage chemistry lab" project, costs maybe fiddy bux a month or such\
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 14:54 asciilifeform: this went on for, iirc, a year or so, then got tired.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu -- that the slug reinflates !11
mircea_popescu: yes, but then asciilifeform gets pissed off that the heads aren't cut :D
mircea_popescu: because every empire ever is backed by the trade in flesh, and well... the former pays in flesh. the latter - in scrip.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu tends to approach from the (very practical) angle of 'cutting heads here and now', asciilifeform tends to approach from angle of 'how to permanently salt the slug'
mircea_popescu: average gauleiter actually gains more from secretaries NOT HAVING ink ribbons so they can't do their job than from their HAVING ink ribbons and doing their job.
mircea_popescu: this is periodically discussed in the logs, but i suppose pretty out there to grok.
mircea_popescu: irl, the relative gain from "lording it over" the "lower" limbs that need tools to do their job is often more significant than the gain to the decident of the actual correct usage.
mircea_popescu: it is a tempting naivism to imagine the empire as a sort of frictionless monster, in which every limb gets full and impeded access to any tool it needs whenever it needs it. this however is not how any empire works irl.
asciilifeform: attempts to secure tcp are duct tape.
mircea_popescu: sure there is. but, not for garden variety gnome, not for free, etc.
Framedragger: luckily there's no conceivable way to forge "source ip" field in headers :p
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 14:36 asciilifeform: ( but to make alt-udp you gotta patch the kernel. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626858 << we already gotta patch the kernel to FUCKGOATS. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 14:07 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. blackholing and to be alf-pessimistic for a second, node is exposed to risk of being blackholed as long as it uses TCP; because not only can enemy make it read packets (unavoidable in the end it seems), but there may be ways to making it send packets back.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626842 << of course there is. deny from all allow from this list. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: forwarding is swiss cheese, i don't even think that's for sale
asciilifeform: perhaps they forgot to pay for the coordinates-not-relayed-to-pirates-in-realtime service.
ben_vulpes: i figured the boats were under constant optical satellite tracking, perhaps these schmucks weren't paying for it? http://gcaptain.com/bunker-tanker-hijacked-off-somalia/ ☟︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D18213E74FBE771FDB7F8529CC00E30724669C3A6D9E66E5FED429E7F92EFD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1496...4063 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.23.121.98 (ssh-rsa key from 80.23.121.98 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host98-121-static.23-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D18213E74FBE771FDB7F8529CC00E30724669C3A6D9E66E5FED429E7F92EFD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1450...5997 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.23.121.98 (ssh-rsa key from 80.23.121.98 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host98-121-static.23-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT)
asciilifeform: but with tunnel -- this.
asciilifeform: interestingly, when he did interactive ssh minus the tunnel, he did get the 'OK' prompt
Framedragger: (i wonder if he tried just-ssh'ing, no autossh first. because he needs to answer "yes" to "trust this fingerprint?" prompt first, it seems. just that.)
Framedragger: okay then. :(