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mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 cultural relativism has just about nothing to do with multiculturalism
mircea_popescu: and especiallymost when directed at random starlets so desperate for publicity they'd eat their own head
mircea_popescu: threats are a serious matter. expecially on the internets!
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` btw, phf managed to get it going on os/x
mircea_popescu: it is pretty disruptive, or in the converse expression, it isn't at all described by what people think when they hear the word mmorpg.
mircea_popescu: now, granted, this isn'tr most people's idea of fun - having an untractable problem in their lap.
mircea_popescu: phf which is why it's fun - actually fun. because you gotta find a way. it's too complex to effectually model even, at least so far, so therefore what bots.
mircea_popescu: had the longest standing debate with hanbot, whether he's a superellaborate troll or what.
mircea_popescu: there's no level cap either, you can craft anything as a noob.
mircea_popescu: some people enjoy the detail, they can do X. some people enjoy pacino's puckered asshole... let them do y.
mircea_popescu: and it has little to dowith bottage, it becomes a time arbitrage - if bots are prevented chinese farms will do it by hand
mircea_popescu: whereas in stupid games, it's "faucet X is the biggest, gotta bot this or bust".
mircea_popescu: but basically, from a player pov, the economy is elastic enough you can choose. you wish to risk 100 coppers per click, do X. you wish to risk 10k per click, no need to do X 100 times, can just as well do Y.
mircea_popescu: phf in any case, there is no actual incentive to bot, or i suppose the proper format would be to say everyone can bot just as well.
mircea_popescu: phf cheaper to just put one slave girl on twerk detail while playing an actual game
mircea_popescu: which obviously, together with their inability to model, makes bullshit like "level caps" unavoidable and on and fucking on
mircea_popescu: dumbass ipad games, you tap the screen twice and it's CONGRATULATIONS! you're level 5.
mircea_popescu: phf or for that matter wow style "rares" which everyone has. wtf is achievement even supposed to mean outside of a scarcity world.
mircea_popescu: none of that bullshit bezzle game economics, ima puke if i see another SoJ
mircea_popescu: not even the funding model, it deliberately has a strong currency for purely game design concerns
mircea_popescu: or alternatively you could find someone to sell you the crafting starter item and try to get skill starter drops
mircea_popescu: anyway, the current eulora problem as far as miners are concerned is : there's a single shot very powerful mining tool, which seems like the oinly hope to acquire essential resources choking toolmaking and cooking. since these are in short supply, people are working to make a map of known resources, so as to explore the unknown spots
mircea_popescu: it'll get wiped eventually even if locked, but you get more than the unlocked hour.
mircea_popescu: if you read the first node, which is really all that i've bothered with, it even tells you the location on disk
mircea_popescu: phf yeah the helpfile as bundled with the client is a mess atm.
mircea_popescu: and generally, i expect expansions to be there long before anyone actually reached the point where they can play them
mircea_popescu: there's going to be an update this week adding more, but i doubt anyone's gonna see it this month. maybe. depends how seriously ppl play.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole thing is very much player driven. for instance, out of the ~dozen skills available, afaik players found like .. 4 so far ? i guess 5.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as the population progresses there's gonna be moar maps, but atm too noobish :D
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i dun particularly care one way or the other. the discussion's in teh logs which atm can't be searched it seems.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> I have created a simple build script << you may consider signing some of the things you pull
mircea_popescu: tried to track it with a node, it resulted in a stuck node 0.O
mircea_popescu: by any practical measure they were an offense to the land they shaded.
mircea_popescu: what, is this the universal excuse now ? "why is he fucking dumb ?" "he is ~~~affraid for his own physical safety~~~ magic wordsd!!!" "oh ok then, all is well, carry on"
mircea_popescu: and ftr i am naught impressed with this "got bugsprayed" bs.