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jurov has an idea to "fix the computers".. just put together
a fund to become highest bidder for botnets
ThickAsThieves: which is why when real leadership is needed for ebola, obama stepped aside and appointed
a czar
bounce was just thinking,
a real crisis tends to bring out the real leadership (if available). then so there's people like the skull+bones fraternity that believe the people are happiest when there's something to fight for, so they promote perpetual war(s on stuff) (and gotten the likes of dubya on the throne). and, well, the people're getting sick of it because weak leadership.
mircea_popescu: also
a project. there's no shortage of projects, it's not like you can either pick "go to moon" or nothing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "fix the computers" thing is just
a random example.
mircea_popescu: they'd come up with something
a little better than derpobama.
mircea_popescu: and if there were some guys on
a pile of weapons somewhere, who then could vet anything,
mircea_popescu: because well... it's
a colony. it depends on its mother.
ThickAsThieves: pretty much amounts to, if i could be
a god on another planet, everything would be my way
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and that not
a single line of code ever written, from babbage to today, can be used as is - or even with mild combing. <<< all the skills needed to drive carriages, honed at the significant expense of sweat and often blood by the original wells fargo corporation
mircea_popescu: <bounce> which requires having something to say, an idea of where we are and where we should be going, organise how we're going to get there <<< also don't neglect the ever essential part that someone somewhere may call you
a cult leader!
bounce: it's
a bit morisette on the scale of irony though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude. her fuhrer had people do
a) rocketry. b) airplanes powered by hydrazine ; c) rommel in africa looking for the holy grail
mircea_popescu: it'd definitely fix the us problem, which is
a purely credibility problem.
bounce: you're talking about the "have
a vision" part
mircea_popescu: out of
a million slaughtered, lanky, blonde russian kids.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary. the way it worked was that the germans attacked, stalin commited, and
a zhukov emerged.
mircea_popescu: more importantly : the war didn't work like, one day there was
a zhukov, and he went hey, what if we had the germans attack us, so they i could be really cool ?
mircea_popescu: let's try the great patriotic war, maybe that's
a better knob. so... is that also
a "doesn't decompose" sort of task ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you just forget about it, hit the bottle, and then write
a proper fucking thing ?
mircea_popescu: this is what government does : it provides
a base. it doesn't provide solutions
mircea_popescu: "i want
a complete report on every tcp/ip implementation out there. by hand. line by line comparison of all versions ever made"
mircea_popescu: if they had, the soviets would still be
a thing, painting the moon red
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not that dude. when they wanted to send
a guy to the moon they didn't give gm "the contract"
bounce: don't need
a war either. just bring together the means.
mircea_popescu: mysteriously, "everything" they do never includes
a "we wil spend one trillion dollars to fix our software-hardware. all of it."
bounce: nothing ended up here. could use
a bit of bezzle. say, to build
a harder-to-snoop phone.
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary, such
a programming paradigm is immoral.
ThickAsThieves: in the current sense, yes, but if decentralized wouldnt it be
a way to purposefully maintain
a continuity in your online identity?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't this eminently
a local config issue tho ? give people scripts to just do it locally.
ThickAsThieves: the advantage is keychaining
a lifestyle that uses 10 3rd parties as is
mircea_popescu: i still don't see what's the advantage of "go everywhere with an identity provided by
a 3rd party"
bounce: didn't we already have
a sackton of "SSO" trickery for websites?
ThickAsThieves: maybe of
a way to auth on any website with one account?
ThickAsThieves: the concept of
a spec'd way to comment on websites with one account?
ThickAsThieves: ok but i meant to highlught the concept of having
a crypto version tho
ThickAsThieves: i have no power over whether i cna comment on
a website regardless
ThickAsThieves: i kinda like the disqus concept tbh, i wish there was
a bitcoin/namecoin/wot version
bounce: disqus has its tentacles everywhere and is
a steaming heap of slow js
ThickAsThieves: tol, what qntra was simply
a private news site, and you had to buy subscription and be in wot to have IPs cleared
mircea_popescu: cool, so perhaps qntra should run
a piece about how whoever nobody from coinfire divulged today that coinfire is in the posession of signed letters by the sec demanding they do not publish information.
☟︎ ThickAsThieves: that SEC gave
a shit about moolah and 7 companies are under investigation and SEC tries to tell people to shut up
mircea_popescu: so basically this thing reads to me like, "we've read about this on reddit, here's
a re-narration of events that makes us sound important"
Adlai: had lunch with him
a few weeks ago, he's very curious about all this decentralized stuff, in the best kind of curiosity
mircea_popescu: "Coin Fire was first made aware of this investigation on October 14th but officials with the SEC and the Department of Justice actively informed our editorial team to not jeopardize current investigations. However, as new information has come to light and
a third source stepped forward with further information our editors now feel compelled to begin publishing information."
ThickAsThieves: "On October 10th, we received
a second confirmation of the information and an updated list showing that several companies while under active investigation have been placed on the back burner so that forensic accountants brought in from the IRS and other federal agencies to begin combing through the information."
ThickAsThieves: "On October 9th Coin Fire received information from
a source inside the US SEC that Moopay LTD along with seven other cryptocurrency companies were under active investigation for unregistered securities in the cryptocurrency world. "
mats_cd03: i also had
a side of poutine with pork belly
mats_cd03: im probably going to have
a stroke next year but s'ok
mats_cd03: i had
a burger today with grass fed beef fried in beer batter with bacon and spicy mayo
Adlai: it's
a good show, as far as shows go
ben_vulpes: lisp is lisp and datomic is
a persistant prologish fact store with time built in
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: thank you, this looks like
a sane version of the node/mongo stack, I’ll dig in
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 exposure to kids that make all sorts of claims, of having banged
a bunch of chicks, of having bought
a bunch of fish etc idem.
mats_cd03: i know
a few doods that 'invested' in eth because 'its
a good idea' and 'i want to hedge if it becomes huge'
Adlai: mircea_popescu: thank you for recommending
a tv series which i can finish in
a single weekend
ThickAsThieves: so it's basically
a list of women that are safe to rape?
assbot: Time For
A False Rape Accuser Registry | Chateau Heartiste
ThickAsThieves: “If people use bitcoin in
a lazy, easily censorable way where they are reusing addresses – which were always intended to be one-time in the design of the system – then this creates
a serious systemic risk in that someone might try to order nodes, developers, and/or miners to censor the system.” ~Maxwell
mike_c: "Not the place for neither profanity nor
a discussion on profanity."
ben_vulpes: for API's we use liberator, which neatly takes all of the functions in
a namespace and turns them into rest-y endpoints
Apocalyptic: <Adlai> In Time was
a fantastically bad execution of an interesting idea // pretty much
assbot:
A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: "it drops local connections like
a whore that's lost her crack pipe. something is badly broken and needs to be fixed urgently."
Adlai: isn't currency just
a fungible trust system though?
Adlai: no, you just have to beg for food in
a different irc channel
Adlai: and please,
a better ending
mircea_popescu: that should probably be redone, but with
a sexploitation cast and perhaps tarantino in charge.
Adlai: yes it's well-produced, lots of effects and sexy young actors. still
a terrible movie.
Adlai: In Time was
a fantastically bad execution of an interesting idea
ThickAsThieves: even
a 12-person board can ruin
a company led by
a masterful ceo
mircea_popescu: they should find
a master when old enough to interest anyone, and live thus, as slaves.