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mircea_popescu: think about it. for a computer to be in a botnet it has to be vulnerable to something, right ?
cazalla: so they turned my alter ego into a short doco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrRXP1tp6Kw
thestringpuller: "We want 1 mn for her safe return." "No thx. You did me a favor kthxbai."
mircea_popescu: you know the story about how they kidnapped that chick, sent a ransom note, ☟︎
BigBitz: thestringpuller should I get a manager?
mircea_popescu: jurov that soulds more like a byline lol
mircea_popescu: it tellingly ends with a "better off dead than communist"
mircea_popescu: resulting in a song, quite popular at the time, "mai bine huligan decit dictator", "better off a hooligan than a dictator"
mircea_popescu: jurov if this is not only a pathetic effort, but a CROWDSOURCED pathetic effort ...
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2014 17:29:41; mircea_popescu: cool, so perhaps qntra should run a piece about how whoever nobody from coinfire divulged today that coinfire is in the posession of signed letters by the sec demanding they do not publish information.
BigBitz: did they at least use the message I signed -- and made a typo in. Sigh.
BigBitz: thestringpuller got a link?
BigBitz: I didn't interview, a friend asked me some information, I told him... ummJackson wasn't to allow CCN to use it.
gribble: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
gribble: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
mircea_popescu: undata what's a trinque ?
gribble: Error: "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation" is not a valid integer.
BigBitz: I'd rather be a chick than a cat, that's for sure.
mircea_popescu: like for instance - being a cat.
mircea_popescu: undata you know there's worse things than being a chick.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm a sporting man. i like to lay the occasional bet.
mircea_popescu: anyone giving me even money on undata being a chick ?
mircea_popescu: lol i don't have a particular plan in mind
mircea_popescu: not about yourself lmao, who the fuck gives a shit about yourself ? and you least of all!
mircea_popescu: about becoming a useful member of teh community.
mircea_popescu: like you know, telephone poles. you ever seen a charred old pole, from a lightning strike ?
chetty: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo all plastics burn, more or less./usually with a lot of toxic smoke
bounce: hm yeah still often quite a bit of wood. floors, roof holding up the tiles, that sort of thing
bounce: ceaucescu did a lot of building, too, wasn't it?
undata: I haven't a clue
bounce: the really young (and thus families with young kids) also are a drain.
mircea_popescu: nobody in romania has heard of or could imagine the point of "a sprinkler system"
mircea_popescu: bounce a properly built house doesn't "Burn down" anyway.
mircea_popescu: undata sure, but that's not really a societal response.
bounce: if you live in a house for a hundred years, it never burned down, you paid its rebuilding value (given the 2%) twice over. is that a loss? or a win, after al, the house didn't burn down.
mircea_popescu: undata note that this isn't a matter of should, but of does.
bounce: the usg thing is a layer cake of fail. but yes, you'll end up with /some/ subsidizing in any such system. over the long run you'll have been young, subsidizing the old, and old, mooching off of the young both.
cazalla: "..which included a fingerprint scanner and camera, downloaded images of users' bitcoin identification cards." << where do i get one of these?
mircea_popescu: undata that's a different story tho. some allowance will have to be made for people who worked in one system, if you change it to another system,
bounce: ``Tooth and Claw is the easiest of my books to summarize. It's a sentimental Victorian novel in which all the characters are dragons who eat each other. If that sounds appealing, you'll like it. If not, then probably not.''
undata: bounce: example, I'm a small biz owner and in my 20s
Adlai: humans are but a genetic cross between mammals and reptiles
bounce: no? 'sides, making the call without a clue is something governments do all the time
mircea_popescu: we are, as a species, the results of that house surviving, you know.
mircea_popescu: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/art.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg << the argument that this is "just sheer luck" reduces to both "if you built a business it's not your business" and "einstein never happened"
mircea_popescu: well thereabouts : if i live in a neighbourhood where flood is 10% yearly, but because of where exactly my house is my chances are 2.3%
mircea_popescu: but my argument is : just because your john is an idiot, itdoes not follow you now have license to make a rule as to what mircea the evil can or can not do with his slavegirls.
mircea_popescu: bounce because mircea the evil can and will tell everyone to go fuck himself with a rolled up newspaper, among other things. because it's his motherfucking million.
undata: I'll admit I've never thought of insurance as such a central component of economics
mircea_popescu: a guy with one million one dollar bills collected from his fellow nobodies is not a millionaire. he's a dangerously overpowered representative of the mob.
mircea_popescu: but irrespective of all this, they play a role to support a theory, and that theory is "we too".
mircea_popescu: ie, john is a poor but stupod kid from some downtown ghetto in some derpy town. one day, mircea the evil comes there on business, sits down in the bar with his two bitches cuddling at his feet and drinks a rum or something
mircea_popescu: Ei, asta-i patriotismul, fetele din exemplu dau dovada de “dragoste de cartier”, si asta-i chestia pe care s-a construit Romania socialista daca sunteti curiosi, o structura de altfel imprumutata de la Romania carlista. Totul pentru patrie!"
mircea_popescu: the relevant part : "Ca sa ne intelegem mai bine : Ion e un copchil sarac si cam prost dintr-un cartier amarit din ceva orasel indistinct. Intr-o zi, Mircea cel Rau vine pe-acolo cu treaba, se aseaza-n bar cu cele doua catele ghemuite la picioare si bea un rom ceva. Fetele din cartieru’ respectiv, din dragoste de patrie (in exemplu’ nostru cartieru’ respectiv) il iau pe sus pe Ion, il aseaza la masa de vis-a-vis
mircea_popescu: you can't emulate a rich man by getting 100 poor idiots to donate a dime.
bounce: well, they work a lot better than trying to go to the moon your way
bounce: look. fire insurance. over some area 2% of the houses burn down every year. so you insure against that by gathering a goodly bunch of house owners and they contribute 2% of their own house's rebuilding value to the pot, plus a little extra to cover administration. instant rich party to cover houses burning down.
mircea_popescu: enough people with the same problem construct a large problem, not a solution.
mircea_popescu: and it is the ONLY injection of safety in a market,
mircea_popescu: "the odds of this crop failling are 1%, pay me a dime get a ducat if your crop fail"
mircea_popescu: this is why the trading states (historical la serenissima, others) benefited so much from rich people in their midst. it creates stability, when there';s a guy with a large fortune capable to make specific statements about the future.
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/02/wheel-of-misfortune.html // thanks for the link, a quite enjoyable article
mircea_popescu: but insurance is a financial matter, based on the wealth of the rich.
mircea_popescu: this is the communal view, based on a cooperative of the poor.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> you know, insurance by its very nature is a social institution: statistics to spread the pain of disaster over many in manageable proportions. << i do not agree.
bounce: so what is the value and the valuation of a human life?
Adlai: someday, human life will get a little less overvalued
bounce: you know, insurance by its very nature is a social institution: statistics to spread the pain of disaster over many in manageable proportions.
asciilifeform: what casino wouldn't love to know if some fellow blessed by the gods to win $maxint that day (or simply a card counter) walks in?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like the fight between insurance client and insurer is really a dispute over what the house edge should be.
mircea_popescu: (as to the first part, bitcoin mining is EXACTLY insurance, as a mechanism. it turns a string of discrete events (blocks found) into a practically continuous stream of services (hashes))
Adlai: drinking sweat is just a more palpable form of eating meat
mircea_popescu: there's insurance, which makes sense, if events happen discretely converting them into a continuous stream is useful.
asciilifeform: imagine if we knew precisely when each man would die. would we give up on the concept of life insurance? or would it turn into a ludicrous farce.
asciilifeform: dan mocsny had a thread about this.
asciilifeform: gotta be a sporting chance.
asciilifeform: well, they'll walk into a casino, but not a 'leave yer money here house' typically.
asciilifeform: folks expect insurance to be at least a vegas-grade casino
mircea_popescu: you are objectively more expensive to insure. reflecting this in the cost of insurance is a subversion ?
bounce: it's a subversion from how insurance is supposed to work
bounce: why yes, disease affects the person; information about the disease can do the same thing again, and again, and again. so throwing it out for all to see isn't something doctors typically did, and when it inadvertedly happens, it's a big scandal. so the government elevating "sharing" medical details to the new standard just because they went all digital is a bit of a deviation from custom.
Adlai: can't they just fly coach like a normal person
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a possible explanation : flying the whole thing relieves the family of the cost to fly a corpse (20-30k or so)
asciilifeform: 'The corpse of a British man who died in Macedonia is being flown to Frankfurt for Ebola testing.' << for testing, small vial of corpse juice ought to suffice, no? what's the purpose of shipping the entire carcass...?
Apocalyptic: <gribble> qntra.net is up // I get a 403
assbot: GP records soon wide open again: Just walk into a safe haven The Register
bounce: want medical records? soonish you can just buy uk medical records of anyone who didn't think to "opt out": http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/17/gp_records_soon_wide_open_gp_open_data_really_is_open_just_walk_into_a_safe_haven/
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, you're a lover not a fighter.
mircea_popescu: "guys, i have a great idea for a thing. here it is : function greatidea(); <stuff> return;"
Adlai: All algorithms are defined via Python code in order to… provide a working implementation… This function will not be fully written here
mircea_popescu: buy yourself a rabbit
cazalla: i gave you a retweet though TaT
cazalla: ThickAsThieves: i haz a post i wanna give them dibs on <<< if you've posted it to your own site, i don't see much point in qntra mirroring it
mthreat: bus driver locks him in and beats him with a bat
mthreat: a failed thief on a bus in Chile.
Adlai is thinking as a drunk
bounce throws a chair into the discussion
mircea_popescu: well whatever you think, you're not thinking as person, therefore not a sovereign, therefore nevermind.
mircea_popescu: undata for my curiosity, be a darling and narrate the boston tea party ?
undata: ThickAsThieves: the above was more like "when a new continent is found, the new inhabitants sometimes try things a bit differently in regards to government"