asciilifeform: all the above means is that buildroot deliberately fucked up the build system to make it extremely inconvenient to add it to the default init
asciilifeform: jurov: how do you propose to log in to the box ?
asciilifeform: 'we'll tie your hands for your own good'
asciilifeform: ^ shitgnomery disguised as 'seeek000rity'
asciilifeform: especially true if root has no password set - which is by defult).'
asciilifeform: there's no chance for unexpected root access to the target (this is
asciilifeform: - until user manually starts telnetd while connected via serial console
asciilifeform: 'Note that telnetd won't auto-start on boot because of securilty concerns
asciilifeform: observation: sshd on a box with no rng may as well be replaced by telnetd
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, nubbins`, mircea_popescu, et al:
asciilifeform: nubbins`: not unlike the 'playstation' supercomputing clusters and sony's response
asciilifeform: nubbins`: "We currently have plenty of them in stock" << may be pessimistic, but i strongly suspect that the $20 stock will evaporate very quickly once the manufacturer realizes what these are being used for.
asciilifeform: but don't be surprised if it makes headlines in the mouthpiece press as a mega-s333k00r1ty-gotterdammerung
asciilifeform: punkman: which is one of the objects under test
asciilifeform: punkman: the uefi variant runs from... within bios?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: picture how a 'civilian' would view #b-a log if he were to read 'the choice bits'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the actual facts about usg are sufficiently monstrous that they will trigger -any- reasonable person's immune system the way they triggered yours, if encountered raw in one gigantic torrent
asciilifeform: none of the other shit ultimately matters.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the pertinent difference is the testability of the claims and how perfectly they square, imho, with the publicly-available facts.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: my hypothesis is that this kind of thing is -caused by- rather than -a cause of- the futility of 'shouting in the wilderness'
asciilifeform: punkman: hence no stealth in the analysis
asciilifeform: punkman: requires patching winblows to put kernel in 'dev mode' and removing signature checks. which is readily visible to any decend crapware
asciilifeform: how would you distinguish this animal from the other, very different, species with similar markings ?
asciilifeform: snowden (or whatever bourbaki is responsible for writing his public-facing garbage) insulted the intelligence of the entire planet a thousand times
asciilifeform: and are there for anyone who wants to see them.
asciilifeform: at any rate, herr sachs has not posited any martian armies taking over earth. instead, he connected a number of dots which are plain as daylight
asciilifeform: note that there is no public communique from harvart 'this fella never went here' (whether factual or not)
asciilifeform: the bells and gongs sticking out of that thing make it considerably less palatable, yes, which i suspect is the only reason sachs is still alive
asciilifeform: ('redphone', 'blackphone', and 1001 other pieces of rubbish)
asciilifeform: sachs does -not- mention it, but the folks in #b-a know well, that it also created a vast and thriving market of faux 'security' paraphernalia.
asciilifeform: but also to drum up a feeling of 'everyone is surveilled'
asciilifeform: mainly to create a usg-controlled 'muppet hero' who will lead actual leakers to their deaths
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'll summarize for the impatient. according to sachs, snowden heap was lifted. but under cia (his original and actual employer) direction. and then carefully selected.