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mats_cd03: http://www.acsac.org/2010/openconf/modules/request.php?module=oc_program&action=view.php&a&id=69&type=2 << the honeymoon effect and the role of legacy code in 0day vulns
undata: mircea_popescu: You can make changes to a docker by hand, then make an image from that. It's better to stick to your Dockerfile, but you don't have to.
mircea_popescu: undata how would a script "understand the system state" once you actually need it to do so ? (ie, you no longer do)
undata: mats_cd03: I believe it was a question of why both docker and vm?
mats_cd03: and if you have a competent sysadmin it does actually make the developers job easier
undata: honestly though, people would just assume it was a sign of the end times and double down on irrationality
xanthyos: i gotta tell you i've always been a liberal but the way the left is handling this ebola thing as a race issue makes me fucking crazy
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/address/16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3 << holy shit, i made like a bitcoin selling trilema this month.
xanthyos: i think jesus was unclear as well, and that's why he signed a new contract with verizon
PinkPosixPXE: No, it's a girl I captured in a parking lot, and stuffed in my basement...
mircea_popescu: all that's needed to put someone at a crime scene today is an old hairbrush, or a worn shirt, or anything.
mircea_popescu: bounce: all good and well to want to avoid societal collapse, but to pretend biology would willingly accomodate you there is maybe a bit much. the judge's answer thus is a good measure of the quality of the judicial branch << you have to understand that pious fraud was a lot more fashionable in 1914 than it is today
ThickAsThieves: internets internets everywhere and not a drop to drink
mircea_popescu: Escu beauty is a burgeois lie anyway.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i guess at a high level stupid solution to stupid problems. << i guess.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> wait, so PinkPosixPXE is a GIRL ?!?!?! << this was not obvious?
mircea_popescu: wait, so PinkPosixPXE is a GIRL ?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a point. people that hit themselves in the head with a hammer don't write on the accdent report
undata: cool, I agree. I've thought it would be a great place to put magnet links, for example
asciilifeform: the idea was specifically to show that existing btc protocol is isomorphic to a 'proper chat'
undata: asciilifeform: then you have a positive opinion of using the blockchain for information storage?
asciilifeform: undata: the idea, as described on my site, is deadly-simple - no need for server, you 'speak' by sending btc to an address. others 'hear' by seeing what was sent. if the channel owner (owner of privkey to address) decides that you are persona non grata, you never see your coin again. otherwise, it is sent back after a while.
asciilifeform: undata: point of gedankenexperiment was to propose a telegraph which is exactly as strong as bitcoin in every technical aspect.
mircea_popescu: Adlai: it's a shitty one if all you do while not starving is waste oxygen <<< oxygen can't really be wasted, it's an atom.
PinkPosixPXE: I've searched far and wide, only a pdf version of his slides, I imagine they were just markers for him. But the commentary in the thread, specifically the first user, bullet points some of the main topics.
asciilifeform: blocksign << aha let's have a 'keybase' variant of 'deedbot.' haha.
PinkPosixPXE: Here's a decent thread that provides some of the cliff notes, and main points (based on some of the viewer's/reader's interpretation) : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8478427
decimation: yeah that probably 'worked' better with the speech. I wonder if there's a video?
BingoBoingo: bounce: I'm cutting out the stupid repetition from being a bunch of slides
bounce: then again, should I leave the re-repe-repete-etc. stuff in so someone can make a fancy js thingy out of it?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 "asking for a friend"
mats_cd03: asking for a friend?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Afaf | Afaf. 1) A beautiful green-eyed, fair skin girl with gorgeous dark hair. She is always kind and caring. 2) A women with a beautiful heart and soul. 3) Afaf- Arabic: ...
mats_cd03: i've had difficulty buying more than 1BTC at a time though. it keeps telling me its empty.
bounce: needs a bit of editing for the re-rep-repe-repete-repetetive parts
mircea_popescu: can it be not a pdf ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: oookay, who wants to code a website for me ? << fired client on friday, interested
asciilifeform: 'this is a one person job' but only mircea_popescu knows which 'this' ... ?
kakobrekla: you are building a ddos magnet!
mircea_popescu: bounce bot is supy anyway, proly best run a python back-end and interface with gpg in it
thestringpuller: is mpex a one person job ._.
bounce idly wonders whether a basic heroku instance can be made to maintain an irc connection.
mircea_popescu: the minimum bar for b-a coders is, persons for whom this is a one person job.
thestringpuller: this sounds like a multiperson job ~_~
mircea_popescu: well, just like with every one so far. the ability to roll a bot, the ability to handle gpg logins, produce webpages and maintain a database.
bounce: so what is a website then, but a collection of pages, possibly numbering but one page? in fact, just one page (with loads of unnecessary javascript) is currently the trendy thing
mircea_popescu: "who wants to make me a car ?" "here's a thing" "mmmkay" "no srsly, cars consist of things"
thestringpuller: just a website? is it an app...
mircea_popescu: bounce that's a html page. not quite the same.
mircea_popescu: oookay, who wants to code a website for me ?
bounce: I don't even mind fingerprints as such that much -- when used as corroborating evidence established by an expert -- but wholesale fingerprinting of everyone for essentially no reason ("passing customs") and automated "matching" is an enabler for insidious systemic malice that really is a problem on its own.
asciilifeform: a 'modernized' version of above could have candidates grasp a live wire for a second.
decimation: lol "As Western intelligence services continued to register successes with the polygraph as a counterintelligence tool, Soviet propaganda on polygraph machines changed from "bourgeois hoaxes" to (tested research devices.)
asciilifeform: afaik most of the use was in order to familiarize men with a torment the enemy was fond of using.
decimation: asciilifeform: I agree that's the end effect, but in a supposedly 'democratic' government the idea is terrifying
asciilifeform: and to the degree that there is a function, it is to select for 'cold psychopath' (or whatever the fashionable term for the beast is.)
bounce: to climb up you may have to be a believer
decimation: which means of course that everyone who works for the fbi is a 'believer'
asciilifeform: and not simply a device for fooling jury (not all jurisdictions have jury trials) but for eliciting confession through intimidation (as 'lie detector' was once used for)
bounce: fingerprints work reasonably well as criminal corrobating evidence. as soon as that gets forgotten that the matching is taken as a binary guilty decision, then we have guaranteed miscarriages of justice all over
asciilifeform: or produce same, for a scapegoat.
decimation: fingerprints are part of the general 'forensics' pseudoscience that is used as an aid in reducing the number of thinking people required to throw a chump in the gulag
bounce: all good and well to want to avoid societal collapse, but to pretend biology would willingly accomodate you there is maybe a bit much. the judge's answer thus is a good measure of the quality of the judicial branch
asciilifeform: take the story with a grain of salt, perhaps i hallucinated it. if anyone can find the documents in question, post here.
mats_cd03: list a few of those trials?
asciilifeform: and actual trials where this fact was brought in - and always the crown's side would proclaim - 'this is not a fact because simply inconceivable, law and order would collapse.'
bounce already had the hunch that we'd be better off with a lot less "rights", but with the ones we do have, properly observed.
asciilifeform: here's a little mindfuck, for those still awake:
asciilifeform: thing is, modern 'rights states' (see some of mircea_popescu's pieces) create a problem - various 'rights' are Officially proclaimed, that, were they actually exercised en masse, would make the entire scamatron collapse overnight.
bounce: on a somewhat lighter note, compare "state of the art" datacentres with biometric access measures.
asciilifeform: in as far as the crown goes, 'actual truth' is a matter between you and your gods
decimation: so all they can do is make a cardboard cutout robot of a 'person'
chetty has low skin oil, they have a hard time getting prints when I go thru immigration :P
asciilifeform: think of it this way, if fingerprint is your password, you're leaving a 'stickynote' with your password on nearly everything you touch.
asciilifeform: that is, the chump can once again be presumed guilty of fraud if he dares to contest a charge, just like in the 'bad old days.'
Apocalyptic: that's a relevant question
asciilifeform: 'Personnel will not be issued a weapon as weapons are not authorized in
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: one can claim, but there's a trilema for that :P
ben_vulpes: it's been a decent tool for hacking mud, that's about all i know.
mats_cd03: LXC has been battle tested for a few years. containers, decades. seccomp is available in the LXC driver, but not in libcontainer. so, the same risks as before -- arbitrary execution of kernel code. leaking to other containers, lack of fine-grained access to devices (in the works, i belieb)
ben_vulpes: just a few years ago i was building wafer hosts - there is much i don't know about websec.
kakobrekla: its a do copy
asciilifeform is reminded of a recent trip to a hardware store, where he saw an entire rack of different kinds of 'duct tape', of nominally greater and greater strengths.
ben_vulpes: i guess at a high level stupid solution to stupid problems.
asciilifeform: phototransistor sensor won't light a room. air quality sensor won't remove pollution. thermometer won't heat the house. hygrometer won't remove humidity. 'shake sensor' won't shoot intruders. etc
asciilifeform: and - 'house sensors' are a 'dismal science.'
kakobrekla: buttstamp guys that got 10mio funding for their exchange a while back invested part of that in https://cubesensors.com
Adlai orders a copy of Blumenstein et al
Adlai: but i'm not a trading bot
mats_cd03: writing a trading bot is easily top five most trite and boring
Adlai: if i'd wanted comeback i'd have asked your mother to spit in a cup
Adlai: investing is more than "just gambling", but some derivatives are structured in a way which makes them more like a fancy roulette wheel than "investing"
Vexual: kraken has a casino now?
Adlai: my main reason for using kraken for developement is their minimum order size of 0.01 euro, which means i can risk a lot less capital
RagnarDanneskjol: again - I just deconstruct these things for research/amusement purposes.. no plans to 'do anything' with code really. I have a day job that keeps my too busy, any fre time is for ma doggies
Adlai: the user configures pretty much everything about how it interprets the market, my goal is for this to essentially be a trading slave which you can teach your algorithms and then sip martinis while it trades away
Vexual: ill give you money anyway, just to be a cunt
Adlai: +Vexual | need a brain? « the more the merrier, provided that you're an "adder" and not a "divider" :)
Vexual: need a brain?
Adlai: RagnarDanneskjol: me, and a friend is planning on using it in a hedge fund sometime soon, and has been running it on a bit of personal money to test the waters until the fund goes live.