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trinque: she found
the one
trick
they don't wnat you
to know
mircea_popescu: nah. "i'm
totally worth it ; because i'm just
that good ; because i'm special ; because i'm
too dumb
to realise how
trite i am."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they all wondered and
they all had an answer. guess
the answerr ?
mircea_popescu: "where can i find a guy who is safe
to work in a datacenter ?" "where 1% of
the 1% gather", doublespoken as "for 100k a year".
mircea_popescu: note
that in any industry, it is LABOR
that is
the killer cost, not MATERIALS.
mircea_popescu: the reason is
the failure of
the workforce
to keep up with
the complexity of scientifico-technical world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway,
they COULD NOT enjoy life as chicken handlers, because
they'd do dumb shit.
there's a reason situation with 1k droolers with chicken coop 20 chickens each
turned into 1 chicken farm, 20k chickens, designed by 1, ran by 10, and 989 droolers on ipads waiting for
the counter
to count down.
ben_vulpes: kinda
the working
theory, we'll see how it holds up in battle.
trinque: not
that it should be
terribly difficult once you figure out launching whichever bootloader from openfirmware, iirc yaboot
trinque: ben_vulpes: putting a gentoo on one would not be a waste of
time
mircea_popescu: ople on
the notion of hanging around waiting for
timers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this one is a particular gem, conceptually, in
the vein of
that romanian "s-o-ntilnit prostu' cu hotu'" (ie, "the
thief and
the idiot met", shorthand for a certain sort of narrow horizon happiness). ie, "oh,
this egg
takes EIGHT hours
to hatch!
that one 24!! it's so much better!!11
ben_vulpes: even plants likely beyond
those folks.
ben_vulpes: well more likely
they have not
the land with which.
phf: both
trinque and bingoboingo are bsd people, so
that's probably why. i ran linux on g3-g5 2000-2010
ben_vulpes: breeding chickens is a
thing with which
to legitimately busy oneself.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 21:06 mircea_popescu:
the fundamental mechanic being
that you have animals which you gotta mate and
then raise
the eggs and you can get varying stuff out of
the eggs and etc.
ben_vulpes halfway looking forward
to
the next gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: upstack,
trinque asciilifeform y'figure
the g5's will only
take a bsd? i've got a pile of links for 'linux on g5', but have yet
to start sucking
the spittoon down. would rather know if actually impossible up front.
phf: relatedly, aquaria is a neat action adventure for ipad. i
think
that's
the only ipad game i actually enjoyed,
though it's not particularly creative. swim around enjoy pretty art
ben_vulpes: 'iphonist' === 'click
the ok and fix issue button'
ben_vulpes: what does it
take
to actually xcode
these days? 100us/yr still?
ben_vulpes: you can self-sign
trivially
these days.
phf: it was always
the case. you deploye whatever custom app
through standard xcode/blah infrastructure. you can't do it as a casual of course
mircea_popescu: which incidentally reminds me of how poor kids "played" in
the 90s
too.
ben_vulpes: "here's a
taste of life as curated by
the competent, aren't you mad at
the fake lifestyle you've been fed?"
mircea_popescu: it's not even very clear
they wish
to play. plenty are quite happy watching other dudes play and stream it live.
trinque: there's an emulator snuck
through apple approval processes every now and
then
ben_vulpes: also
these devices are not properly jailbroken
mircea_popescu: truth be
told ~most of
this crap is paid for by consumer-"investors" rather
than by
their kids spending $2
to "recharge"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i suppose
that's what
they
tell "investor" suckers
to get
them
to pay out.
ben_vulpes: "i'm going
to put a fun
thing on your phone. apple will break it within
the month, because
they're assholes."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well you don't go
through
the censors obvs
Framedragger: correlate gameplay
to 'personality
traits' => political 'lifestyles' (bernays and all modern 'voter-shaping' organizations) => sell data => $?
trinque: I played
through wizards and warriors on ipnoje
ben_vulpes: nevertheless,
the response is "holy fuck, i haven't had
this much fun playing games on my phone...ever!"
mircea_popescu: whereas
the r2 games are "stamina" games. ie, basic dungeon costs 6 and "elite dungeon" (whatever) costs 12 and you have 100 or 200 and get 12 a minute.
ben_vulpes: apple borks
the
thing remotely within a month
ben_vulpes: i'm in
the habit of installing gb/gba emulators on my friends ipnohes
mircea_popescu: see,
the zinga/eve/fb games are all
timers, basically. clicjk here
to start a
timer is
the whole proposition.
trinque: oh yeah, gets women
to go "oh cute" for 5min
shinohai: No surprise
the cattle wish
to play Farmville
mircea_popescu: the fundamental mechanic being
that you have animals which you gotta mate and
then raise
the eggs and you can get varying stuff out of
the eggs and etc.
☟︎ trinque: then it was race
to
the bottom in
terms of easiest yes, extruded product,
to bolt
to facebook
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah.
there's one actually ingenious strand,
that somewhat straddles
the zynga-likes and
the r2-likes :
the eggers, you know
those ?
ben_vulpes: the moo3 rewrite for
touchscreen isn't a...bad...rewrite...
trinque: the "social media 'gaming'"
thing
though, was large part
them. many of
their games bolted directly
to facebook, i.e. inside
the
thing
mircea_popescu: whereas
the zynga stuff is more in
the vein of eve and such
things, clearly made by and for project managers.
mircea_popescu: and
they do
try
to be all respectable,
there's always a "arrow
to
the knee" reference and so. entirely chinese
type of idiocy.
mircea_popescu: trinque not an expert other
than by need ; but i suspect zynga is a different strand.
these are
the azn "fantasy" offerings, wanna-be d2 and h3, by
the looks of
them.
mircea_popescu: none of
them have clickable blocks smaller
than about a child's fist anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're curious, visit
the offerings of
the mentioned. "league of angels" "battle for kingdom" "throne of
throne" "legend of story"
they've a few hundred of such field-appropriate
thesaurus permutations.
trinque: well,
those descended-from-hypercard games are basically
tap all over
the place,
touch works fine
trinque: might be
the only actual gaming use for such a
thing,
the point and click adventure games
trinque: mine serves
to play a ported Riven at
the moment, otherwise sits at bottom of a drawer
trinque hears
the gushing of printed money into
the abyss
mircea_popescu: \wouldn't you like
to link your facebook profile ? for security ? and etc ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but see ...
this crap is also .. .only partially about
the game itself.
they... got accounts!1
mircea_popescu: no longer looking
to get laid, but still
the same herbivore beasts.
mircea_popescu: these are EXACTLY
the same
thing ;
the arcade and
the ipad exist because ameritards exist because oil was a
thing and pittsburg was a
thinbg before
that etc.
mircea_popescu: the missing link is
the attempted "ipad-powered restaurant" by
that idiot from consumer computing,
that we discussed here.
mircea_popescu: yes. at some glorious point in
the 90s it was ~same as a bar. you went with your friends
to a dedicated bit of real estate.
mircea_popescu: 3.
the "payment platform" (all of
these work on micropayments, obv) is a wrapper style
thing (say, paymentwall, but
there's at least 500 entirely identical items vying for a pie $lice with absolutely no distinction whatsoever) processes cards and also links
to a pile of... i don'\t even know what
these are. looks a lot like
the silver age of porn really, early 2000s, where
the various paysites kept
trying
to push each other.