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mircea_popescu: essentially to get "really good" at one thing you define a narrow thing to be good at.
mircea_popescu: decimation generally high efficiency is obtained at the cost of high fragility. the jit system is a fine exampel of the principle.
mircea_popescu: undata: BingoBoingo: I'll read this but to continue, the Russians sought Putin's strong voice after their collapse. << not after, honey. a decade after. that decade is important.
asciilifeform: the digital computer is a beautiful dream. good and well, but you can't dream the dream without some 'meat' to dream it with.
mircea_popescu: undata: a highly armed, extremely disciplined military doesn't just vanish because the congressmen stop coming to work << obviously not. it just starts working for me instead ?
mircea_popescu: undata: more like giant slave and ankle-chain << this was recently in full display in the ukraine, and then later in iraq. except both ukrainians and iraquis are, as a stock, more resilient than the us guy.
BingoBoingo: Chickens have strong foreclaws, powerful warriors for D.A.G.
asciilifeform: my plan is to think of a plan once i have a plan to think of a plan.
mircea_popescu: decimation there's a reason civilisation is built on oil.
decimation: pumping gas is the same as borrowing about 2% of a reasonable nuclear generator
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll be looking to grow my farm once qntra takes off << lol what a plan for the future.
asciilifeform: but given example wasn't so bad, 'molten slag' is also a metastable state.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't the probability to find a metastable state roughlt linear with system energy ?
mircea_popescu: decimation mw-s only impressive for a second
asciilifeform: but in reality, there are not only two. there may be a third, and fourth, or rubber can even bend when the ball rolls on it.
asciilifeform: think of a sheet of rubber with two dimples
decimation: if you were to fully extract the energy of a tank of gas going into your car at the pump, you would be getting about 22 megawatts
joecool: not a bomb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: no need for the 74xx to melt - enough to 'get lucky' and reach a metastable state in one or more switching elements << for pure wankeriferious interest : wouldn't supercooling it be a pill against all this ?
joecool: decimation: i had a truck explode in front of me on i-78, driver got out just in time, bad spot too under an overpass
mircea_popescu: a well.
decimation: I was driving along i-95 once, saw a full carbeque in progress in the right shoulder. Three lanes over through rolled up windows the heat was uncomfortable on my face
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how does duct tape get a bad rap ? i used it for a sex act earlier today!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know duct tape gets a bad rap around here, but... duct tape
decimation: good time for a car-b-q
asciilifeform: went on like this for a few km.
asciilifeform was driving car, and smelled unexpected smell, took almost a minute to realize that it was it. and turned out to be next car's ruptured tank!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im running a sort of generational modelling thing i hacked together. this is my idea of fun.
ben_vulpes: "oh my noes i can feel my brain wilting all the way over here! a scent of gasoline! in the warehouse we rent! we're all about to keel over!"
ben_vulpes: * mircea_popescu kinda likes the smell of gasoline << various engineers went on red alert over a faint whiff of gasoline earlier today
asciilifeform: welded to a boat, also doesn't work >>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2014#436318 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had a nice script to ignore youtube << that one's worth it. but you probably saw it. about same age as i did...
decimation: asciilifeform: not far from you in luray, va there's a cave where some guy converted a stalactite/stalagmite gallery into an organ
ben_vulpes: that's too big a leap for my tiny brain
mircea_popescu: "insurance policy" ? "here's a car that doesn't work, and just to make sure, we welded to it a boat that also doesn't work" ? is this a way to live?
decimation: all this does seem to break down to something like "we want a computer to enforce a human language contract" which ain't gonna happen
mircea_popescu: i had a nice script to ignore youtube links ;/
decimation: asciilifeform: that's a trippy movie
mircea_popescu: suppose you're with a girl that doesn't wanna fuck you.
ben_vulpes: okay, so my derpitude re: m/n aside, the thing has a stable solutino.
kakobrekla: there were to be two machines connected with serial cable < heh i have such setup with a buffer on the cable
mircea_popescu: so, me you and stan have to split a buck. i go : fuck stan, give me 50 cents i'll sign with you.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the three man committee to split a buck ?
ben_vulpes: mind you, this is a pure-btc play.
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i was derping with a colleague about btc payment processing recently. the topic: how to ensure the payment processor (he who tells the taco-delivery mechanism to release tacos) gets paid?
decimation: dijkstra would have been a fan of 'fits in head'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did he give you a sex answer ?
asciilifeform: i asked my father as a boy
mircea_popescu: mechanized orchestra is a particularly good metaphore. because it never existed.
asciilifeform: it is 'fits in head.' and a few other things.
asciilifeform: protocol validator in the middle << people don't seem to get this. 'secure' is not a gigantic mechanized orchestra of quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
mircea_popescu: the disadvantage of productivity is that it's 5am and the log is closing in on 1k lines. and yest it was nearly 3k. and jesus god it's a lot harder to go through when it's not mostly my own lines! i had no idea!
mircea_popescu: long long ago, in a galaxy far far away
decimation: perhaps with a protocol validator in the middle
ben_vulpes: decimation: a fantastic idea.
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't it be a good idea for the privkey need not live in the same memory space as the rest of the code, for instance
mod6: asciilifeform: i like the idea of a cypherpunk-esq mailing list to propagate patches from a common release.
ben_vulpes: there will be a base.
asciilifeform: as in, 7 days a week.
undata: not merely a format
undata: no, git is a distributed database
decimation: asciilifeform: right, I envision it more as the collected correspondence of gentlemen scholars, rather than a profitable venture
undata: it could be a fancy db implemented atop the blockchain
undata: my main thrust is that the thing will have to be structured in some way (a db)
mircea_popescu: which is essential, because our enemies are putting a lot of pressure on them to break it
decimation: undata: no one here really minds having a different opinion than 99.999% of humanity
mircea_popescu: undata more properly said : every breakdown of trust is a fork
undata: mircea_popescu: interesting, a fork could emerge due to a breakdown of trust
ben_vulpes: <undata> anyhow, horse is starting to stink << what is this a reference to?
undata: even automatically... via a hook.
undata: you can extract a nice looking patch from git, and even email it from there
mircea_popescu: until it becames a case of "we will hang whoever made this one byte error in bash"
undata: mircea_popescu: I use the same for code review, even if it's a matter of emailing myself
undata: that makes more sense. In that case yes, I could see a very simple tool for auditing, signing, then releasing
ben_vulpes: that's not a problem
undata: ben_vulpes: sure, that's a fine value, but every time someone tries to reinvent VCS, they either produce something terrible or git
mircea_popescu: just a collection of shit someone crapped out.
mircea_popescu: similarly, you could sign via a website that has your pubkeys
undata: I don't see why that's a requirement, but ok
asciilifeform: that the entirety of everything submitted by a contributor must be signed, every time, with his gpg key, and this fact be visible to the naked eye at all times
undata: it's just a key-value store of hashes
asciilifeform: sign (gpg, yes) a plain ascii patch set.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: conventional version control - for private dildonic pleasure. for project like bitcoin where any change whatsoever might sink a galaxy - no.
decimation: it's amazing that there isn't a version control system with embedded crypto signatures
asciilifeform: if never replies, is it really a node ?
mircea_popescu: after a fashion.
asciilifeform: if yes, could arrive at a kind of truth moment
asciilifeform: does anyone have a quick&dirty interrogatory battery for a remote 'victim' bitcoind node?
mircea_popescu: decimation: yeah xbt is gay but it can be used as a wedge << a wedge ?!
asciilifeform: ^ from dream as a kid
asciilifeform: (never heard of shitburial? it's when yer in a hole and they park a honeywagon, lead the pipe out, throw reverse gear, and... fill)
decimation: I guess php has had a 'trial by fire' as the lingua franca of web devel
mircea_popescu: no dude, php is a lot more stable than ruby bs, then the ruby crowd goes around bitching about php
decimation: asciilifeform: what do you pay on average at your loper-os isp if you don't mind asking? it seems like a really cheap deal
asciilifeform: reading the tale, it is easy to forget that it is about a soldier, albeit an unusual one
undata: wow, that's a quote.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But a Wasp with a poor support network also has a death wish...
asciilifeform: it needs a fragile paranoia-state << these are not in any short supply
decimation: it needs a fragile paranoia-state
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2014 18:23:44; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: note that, for all the poetic license of the tale, it is very clear that wasp needs a support network.