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asciilifeform: Rassah: my purpose isn't pedantry. try to apprehend: i buy your product, get a keychain-sized gizmo with a single chip. how do i verify that the package functions exactly as described?
mircea_popescu: i see.
Rassah: I mean the chip and the hardware has a lot of stuff in there. The entropy is altready there, but initially we figured the SRAM chip was overkill. The "software adding entropy" meaning we just add more code to grab entropy from more hardware and user sources
asciilifeform: floating adc inputs! am i roasting in some sort of F-student hell now?
mircea_popescu: Rassah as in i get the impression things may change or w/e. anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i personally doubt anyone with hardware understanding touched the design, but then again how would i know.
mircea_popescu: people have tried this "i'm the pr, i'll pass q's along" thing before, it never works well, not necessarily through anyone's specific fault,
asciilifeform: Rassah: other question. in my own experiments, i found that sram powerup 'static' depends heavily on the die's temperature.
Rassah: I asked and can relay the Atmel/sram question. I think they are al asleep right now, since they're in Austria
Rassah: asciilifeform: No, that would be a few of the Mycelium devs. They described a lot of it to me, since I'm working with them (I'm the one doing the public interraction thing, and running Indiegogo and such)
asciilifeform: Rassah: I think << you are not the designer of this item ?
Rassah: I think standalone sram
CheckDavid: Can't I up myself anymore? :p
mircea_popescu: anyway, i still don't know what it is or what's to go gaga over.
Rassah: Though if he just bloggs, I'm not sure if that will be worth our time or money
Rassah: The only ones on Reddit who brought up issues were the ones I know to have technical backgrounds (sluch, peter todd, a few others who backed up their concerns with actual technical questions). Most everyone else just went gaga over it. I kinda assumed BitcoinPete knew something about cryptography and security, considering his statement, followed by me asking if he'd be interested in doing an audit for us, and him agreeing.
Rassah: mircea_popescu: I haven't heard a peep from asciilifeform, actually. Most complaints ave been from slush
mircea_popescu: i guess asciilifeform is the guy who's done most re entropy.
Rassah: Peter Todd will be doing an audit too, ad I was hping Bitcoin Pete was someone with some technical knowledge or something
gabriel_laddel: they spend a lot on the homeless every year in SF. I imagine that when they hand it out they sort out the papers for these 'people'.
Rassah: Huh. He's actually the reason I'm in here in the first place. I followed his blog here, after he tweeted that Mycelium Entropy < dice, and agreed once I asked him if he would be interested in auditing out device.
mircea_popescu: am i a resident of sf ?
Rassah: I am especially concerned about the one where mining in a pool is made difficult to impossible by making sharing a secret key that lets the miner steal all coins a requirement. The way I see it is, we either have pools that concentrate mining power, but don't actually own or control that power, or we create incentives for individuals to amass tons of mining power, since being a smal miner or as part of a pool is impossible, and
Rassah: I love p2pool
mircea_popescu: i'd love nothing more than to push a p2pool.
Rassah: Ploshay won a popularity contest basicaly (I ran against her, so I may be biased)
mircea_popescu: i don't do safewords either.
Rassah: It's supported by bitcoind, blockchain.info, Armory, Mycelium, and probably many others. I figured bitcoin message signing is a step in the right direction, because not many are working on making PGP keys secure as hell, but tons of people are woking on making Bitcoin keys secure as hell, and easy to use from wallets. Otherwise I don't know what the difference in implementation is between PGP and BTC signing
mircea_popescu: no, i'm not going to support a braindamaged half baked re-implementation of pgp in bitcoind.
mircea_popescu: Rassah i have no idea what you just asked. what php keys, and where would i accomodate them ?
Rassah: mircea_popescu: I noticed you rely a lot on PHP... I've been treating my PHP keys like disposable tissues, and relyig on bitcoin message signing instead...
mircea_popescu: princessnell if it helps, i think the next victim is nick szabo
mthreat: this was a guy, but i'm sure it's happened more than once
mircea_popescu: because you think there's somehow two power groups, because i guess... a lot of talking ? or something.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: have you tried running a google adword on taleb's own name? people often google themselves. I remember reading a blog post from a guy who used that approach to reach someone.
Rassah: I tought it was him, but didn't want to risk insulting you, because I didn't know what your opinion of him is
Rassah: Which is awesome, because I have TWO social ladders to climb now :D
Rassah: I recognize Mircea... I guess that's all that matters?
mircea_popescu: princessnell how... long ? well so far i took it down from 5 to 3 minutes. if you can deliver in less im sure the girls will love it.
mircea_popescu: i like how this is going, but! what i want is basically the words for a camho to coldhit an older, accomplished male.
mircea_popescu: Rassah the bf board is easy. i could have a dead hamster elected, if i wanted to waste btc supporting cancer.
princessnell: so i can give you exactly what you want
princessnell: i think so! what are you going for?
princessnell: i can write a script. no tits from me tho.
Rassah: mircea_popescu: I don't think washed out child actors have millions privately invested in tons of companies, and tak about this shit over 20 rounds of beer that they pay with an AmEx Centurion card
Rassah: pankkake: I agree with you that you don't need a coin for anything backed. Backing is by definition centralized, so the only thing you can decentralize is the servers handling it. Which, I guess using a distributed ledger instead of a centralized one running on your own server saves you a bit of money, but...
benkay: i long for my home cuntry
pankkake: oh, I suppose you could use it that way too
mircea_popescu: benkay but i had believed in the power of the crowd source!
Rassah: pankkake: I'd rather use OpenTransaction instead of Ripple
ThickAsThieves: no i'll melt!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you and your hugs. next time i see you ima make everyone hug you.
benkay: <nubbins`> wait, so taleb didn't take the bait from that really super cringey video you paid for? // 30 second doses were all i could handle
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i'm very tolerant tho.
Rassah: neither is Brock, so that's not what I meant
fluffypony: so I don't think that's a good match
Rassah: mircea_popescu: btw, ironically, I thinkyou and Brock Pierce of Realcoin would get along well together...
Rassah: I forgot what MPEx was
Rassah: It's been a while since I have been in the anals of bitcointalk, so I forgot. Please fogive me Mircea
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i wonder when the first president rape occurs. now that women can be presidents.
Rassah: By he way, wat does mpex do/make? I just realized I never really looked into that... I guess I should
mircea_popescu: pankkake the theory i was happy with held that they worship the holders of trappings of power. ie, only the powerless.
pankkake: I think being right when they are wrong is what's annoys them
mircea_popescu: i talk about whatever the fuck i happen to feel like talking, why the hell not.
Rassah: mircea_popescu: finally finished your article. Nothing I disagree with. Much of that is discussed in private by some of the attendees, who otherwise put on a faux public face
ThickAsThieves: i probly annoyed people you know at one time or another, but im not connected to em
mircea_popescu: pankkake i did take it from 5 to 3. how short!
pankkake: shorter vids would have been better I think
Rassah: ThickAsThieves: Damn. I'm wondering if the tightly woven net of connections here is in any way linked with the tightly woven net of connections I am involved with outside of here...
nubbins`: mp i'm not sure, i guess generally people with a lack of social skills both end up cringey and spending a lot of time at the computer
ThickAsThieves: i know who you mena though
ThickAsThieves: i do not know him personally
mircea_popescu: fluffypony well yeah but sadly i killed andreas, so... i got nuttin'.
ThickAsThieves: i have like 20 draft articles
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I did Twitter instead of liveblog because of lack of stuff to talk about live
Rassah: I was at the Amsterdam one on September
nubbins`: hey, i'll be in amsterdam soon
ThickAsThieves: rassah, i go to the amsterdam conferences, otherwise we go to mp's conference
nubbins`: gotta admit, i had to stop watching it
Rassah: But will I ever see any of you in real life? Like, speaking of which, is anyone here going to Chicago?
Rassah: I have made a few, yes
Rassah: I was looking for any key
ThickAsThieves: i did!
Rassah: Mircea: I don't know
Rassah: I want to know why Mircea claimed that people here are important, and people outside of here are not
ThickAsThieves: i'm confused about what you are confused about then
Rassah: <ThickAsThieves> No I DOn't
nubbins`: i really matter because i'm moderately well-connected in the wot
Rassah: So, I'm still confused I guess
Rassah: So I think "reddit/skype/etc still wonder why atc is a thing" should have been " reddit/skype/etc don't even know atc is a thing."
Rassah: I'm not sure if Altcoin is a joke or serious, reading is description...
mircea_popescu: pankkake twas clear tho, i had said so before, and dropped buncha other hints around it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla btw, i saw coffee and ciggarettes coupla days back. pretty good actually.
pankkake: I don't think any altcoin should have a market cap >$10,000 or so
mircea_popescu: pankkake course i do.
pankkake: no, it's a good thing, but I wondered if you thought so too
pankkake: atc's market cap is pretty small, there's no real over-valuation I suppose
Rassah: I'm wondering what thing atc is
Rassah: I'm just wondering what the difference is between this IRC, and the Reddit/Skype/etc that's supposedly worse
Rassah: whom, if I had met, I'd be laughing at the notion of a fiat bank? (mind you, I hang out wth the likes of Kody Wilson and Amir Taki, too)