asciilifeform: (think mussolini's relationship with rome)

asciilifeform: decimation: more of an extrapolation of present-day mexican turf wars with a pseudohistoric flavour

asciilifeform: decimation: nah

asciilifeform: rather than down here, where it waits for the scrap dealers of aztlan circa 2080s

asciilifeform: decimation: if they were serious about the 10,000 - they would have parked it on the moon

asciilifeform: how the hell does one smoke a harp ?

asciilifeform: obligatory : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VvuOUYe7mI

asciilifeform expected it to be something more specific - weed smoked through trombone, or the like

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: ;;ud jazz smoke

asciilifeform: Chillum: it's a #b-a exclusive, afaik.

asciilifeform: !s slavecoin

asciilifeform: Chillum has rediscovered 'slavecoin'.

asciilifeform: of the future.

asciilifeform: decimation: what the 'purpose' is of this, i will leave to the shrinks.

asciilifeform: what f where f(y) = n, exercise for reader.

asciilifeform: y years

asciilifeform: forget the pyramid, just leave n bits off the key.

asciilifeform: (worth)

asciilifeform: 1 bitcoin...

asciilifeform: (nausea is, 'in the wild,' generally an indicator of having been poisoned)

asciilifeform: for reasons that don't seem mysterious at all

asciilifeform: nausea is very quick route to associative memory

asciilifeform: nubbins`: patients at chemotherapeutic clinics are often given weird sodas, etc. to drink, for this reason

asciilifeform: nubbins`: or the american expression, dating at least to civil war, of 'biting the bullet'

asciilifeform: sorta like an inverse anosognosia

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i suspect that it will turn up being an elementary proprioception quirk

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: nubbins`: <nubbins`> anyone who claims to have a grasp on the processes behind these decisions is blowing smoke up your ass << the amputation folks do appear to converge on certain threads in their explanations, iirc

asciilifeform: question being, wtf and why

asciilifeform: should suffice for a geological epoch or two

asciilifeform: fuse a bulb of cloudy synthetic quartz around a gold plate.

asciilifeform: obligatory >> https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/Robust.HTM

asciilifeform: decimation: problem is that anything easy to do, is easy for the sands of time to scramble up.

asciilifeform: because we have not yet invented a 'trans-draconic' industry

asciilifeform: nubbins`: they won't be taken in by a cruel sham

asciilifeform: nubbins`: in a way, the folks who 'by 1000 want' to be dragons, are better off

asciilifeform: cu on fiberglass

asciilifeform: if not submerged

asciilifeform: etched pcb will probably keep longer than any ancient papyrus

asciilifeform: decimation: glass, for instance, is quite opaque to ir and cuts with co2 tube

asciilifeform: decimation: depends on the wavelength

asciilifeform: on account of the poor massless photons, a 100w power saw cuts like a 10kW laser..

asciilifeform: Chillum: if you must cut metal, in virtually all cases milling, water-jet, or even plasma cut is cheaper.

asciilifeform: !s dulap

asciilifeform: Chillum: you will find that, large or small, the cost of the cooling and ventilation apparatus will approach the cost of the machine itself.

asciilifeform: but - expensive.

asciilifeform: Chillum: you can buy arbitrarily large co2 tube.

asciilifeform: the tech has not changed.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tube lasers cost roughly what they cost 30 years ago,.

asciilifeform: Chillum: at any rate, you need a very expensive tube before you can actually cut metals, vs. a thin coat of anodized.

asciilifeform: bronze -items- not little scratches thereon.

asciilifeform: and doesn't corrode

asciilifeform: Chillum: cut something that is actually thick

asciilifeform: trinque: not consider my body to be "me" << fwiw, this is how the shrinkature describes it

asciilifeform: ('medicinal cannibalism')

asciilifeform: i wouldn't be certain that it will be very long before 'muti' is introduced in usa

asciilifeform: in fact, africans still 'muti'

asciilifeform: tales of stolen organs pre-date the invention of transplantation

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> narrow space in the head, so everything ends up the other thing << this is how the 'cutter' explained it to me

asciilifeform: does this count as amputation fetishism...

asciilifeform: i know of at least five cases of craftsmen who built and used, on selves, guillotines.

asciilifeform: neglect != enjoy ?

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: so what are the remaining ones ?

asciilifeform: who go in for greater and greater torments, hoping to overflow the register

asciilifeform: i can even imagine cargo-cult masochists

asciilifeform: trinque: oddly enough i knew such a person, and it was very much not a 'performance act' considering that it was done in secret and only evident long after by the scars

asciilifeform: what are brazzers ?

asciilifeform: i can easily picture them feeling it as a 'long no-safeword scene' or somesuch

asciilifeform: wait till you hear about eating. not only do you need to do it again soon, but all that money - turned to shit!

asciilifeform: folks kept as 'axenic mice' tend to go off the rollers in ways like this.

asciilifeform: that pain, death, mutilation are micronutrients

asciilifeform: there is something to the 'mortido' hypothesis

asciilifeform: http://www.funnypart.com/funny/pig.shtml

asciilifeform: !s a pig like this

asciilifeform: or 1000 other works of art

asciilifeform: or in the film 'snow piercer'

asciilifeform: decimation: as features in roal dahl's story with the bums

asciilifeform: i did not say whether eaten.

asciilifeform: missing feet - left to starve

asciilifeform: decimation: if lacking both hands - you'd become a human 'soil compactor'

asciilifeform: but in peacetime - no

asciilifeform: in wartime this was an instant capital offense

asciilifeform: (prisoners at one point would mutilate own hands, feet, to be excused from work for a spell)

asciilifeform: nubbins`: aha gulag-style

asciilifeform: nubbins`: sounds gangrenous

asciilifeform: and hammer

asciilifeform: 'frozen extremes' << will guess, he used nitrogen ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc from shrink literature, proper ampuphetishists grow 'alienated' from their hand/foot/cock, coming to believe that it was a foreign object sewn on to them by martian abductors or somesuch.

asciilifeform: wai wat is a 'babetop' ?

asciilifeform: or even the proverbial 'ru. roulette with automatic'

asciilifeform: <trinque> what will the kids think of next << here's to hoping that it's dueling they'll think of.

asciilifeform: i assume 'self-amputated' means something other than machine-shop

asciilifeform: nubbins`: do tell ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: yakuza ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it has obvious caveats, such as being violently explosive

asciilifeform: e.g. amputation fetishist gets amputation, etc.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc the 'state of the art' shrink practice is not 'self-acceptance' but prescription of mutilations