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BingoBoingo: I think the biggest MP endorsment of hardware b-a so far is how much less time spent at the keyboard happens now compared to timisoara
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you're not about to blame a guy for being nice are you ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mod6: idea was, blockchain, as potentially the majority user of future hdd space on planet, deserves own (ab initio) scheme of mapping to block device. <<< this is actually a solid point
ben_vulpes: i did get a sane guy on the phone today.
ben_vulpes: i mean i'm a novice for sure
mircea_popescu: a then nm me
ben_vulpes: that's a rant.
ben_vulpes: that's not a quote.
ben_vulpes: oh well there's a "here's what you should do" section as well.
ben_vulpes: client is shitting pants and needs giving a way out.
ben_vulpes: a) let the contract terminate, accept our sw in its current state, shit your pants, blow your demo.
ben_vulpes: and we're working with a rusted model-t.
mircea_popescu: veloper using Selenium to exercise his hand-cobbled JavaScript to those of Netflix and their Chaos Gorilla), but to distill the reference implementation into something that can fit in a single human’s head and rip out braindamaged code-arson like the moronic “wallets” and their change behavior."
mircea_popescu: "You misunderstand my goals. My goal with 0.5.3 is not to produce a high quality implementation of the bitcoin protocol from Satoshi’s work (people interested in such should take a dependency on software that’s actually rigorously tested like the Conformal codebase. Comparing the tests for *any* version of the Satoshi codebase with the Conformal implementation is like comparing the tests of a first-year Ruby web de
asciilifeform: back to above, the gods loving a joke, perhaps this is how we find out that p==np.
asciilifeform: except right now we've a few 10k of lines which do not work.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 04:35:44; asciilifeform: 'suppose every program can be shortened by a line, and contains a bug. therefore all programs can be reduced to one line - which does not work.' - ???
asciilifeform: like a gigantic black hole that warps spacetime around it into strange shapes.
asciilifeform: idiocy we suffer from as a consequence of having microshit on our planet
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 00:36:11; asciilifeform: a datacenter that can't be diddled from a safe distance is also called 'a nuclear power'
asciilifeform: mod6: you can probably download most of the info necessary to build a vintage mercedes benz.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> like, your whole reich goes down << wouldn't it be grand to have a spec so people can use that to build their own compliant reference implementation?
BingoBoingo: But... a *nix pacemaker still scares moar
asciilifeform: as in, would you want a multithreaded os like unix on, e.g., pacemaker ?
asciilifeform: 'first the man takes a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes the man'
asciilifeform just wanted a fucking book
asciilifeform: the only devices a hypothetical bitcoin x86 os needs to comprehend is disk and nic
asciilifeform: that's a separate work
asciilifeform: mod6: custom fs doesn't require an os-level turd, just a raw block device that the process is permitted to r/w.
mod6: so, since we're talking about it, what would be the most idea env for such a reference implentation? a fully stripped openbsd with a custom fs & drivers?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: From what I understand ECC is still a luxury sold to the discerning which the "cloud" is trying to handwave over
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: I have wanted ECC ram for about a decade now, but never pulled the trigger on it
mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: youre tempting me to buy a workstation of my own
BingoBoingo: Right after I buy/conquer a university
BingoBoingo: I could start a university computer lab with that shit
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> running this in a vm, worth throwing extra ram at it? <<< yes, up to 16gb markedly helps
dignork: yup, no dice: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet - "Testnet3 is the current test network. It was introduced with the 0.7 release, introduced a third genesis block..."
dignork: nubbins`: I cowrdly take this back: current testnet is a 3rd chain - I think genesis block was switched, but not sure when exactly, so 0.5.3 might have an old genesis block :(
nubbins`: i've got a paltry gb allocated now
nubbins`: running this in a vm, worth throwing extra ram at it?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe both. Maybe they have a new firmware tool? They really wanted operators though because PC 9000 kept pissing Ben off.
mircea_popescu: is that a good thing ?
BingoBoingo disappointed they redesigned their website into a js turd
BingoBoingo remembers being paid dor a tape cataloguing job one summer partially in vodka
asciilifeform: /dev/sdX - raw block device present on all unix systems, represents a block device - e.g., hard disk - as a sequence of blocks of N (usually 512) bytes
asciilifeform: ('metal port' being a hypothetical 'bitcoind' that boots up as x86 os)
asciilifeform: if we're talking about a humbler turd that runs on unix, it'd take /dev/sdwhateverthefuck'
asciilifeform: a purist - can use x86 bios 'int 13' block routine. (slower)
asciilifeform: if we're talking about a metal port, i'd use my pio hdd driver (about 1k asm)
asciilifeform: blockchain gets a block device.
mircea_popescu: rewriting bitcoin is one thing. writing a new fs is a fucking dumb idea.
mircea_popescu: do you even have a candidate for pillaging in mind or wtf fs is even trustworthy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you compress below fs layer then the fixed blocks thing is kinda a meh idea.
mircea_popescu: if anyone is a hdd afficionado, do some math as to what gain in speed justifies a 5x gain in file size ? at current and/or historical price per speed and price per size.
asciilifeform: no need to ever store a mb of zero
asciilifeform: a la 'doublespace.'
mircea_popescu: it'll be a tough sell.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i missed a zero baby.
asciilifeform: undata: afaik it was a mask rom.
undata: asciilifeform: though there's the risk of a bad flash
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a retarded 5yo can see clean through it
mircea_popescu: apparently one doesn't need a politix degree.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If it were only a management dispute why would I link it?
nubbins`: A-1 Betting Inc.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr from experince, nothing short of a site random display will solv that problem
mircea_popescu: tho honestly i am not convinced a fs is less work than a byodb hook
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: anything we can do to make it clearer? there should have been a comment at the top explaining
asciilifeform: result should be ROMable on a 486.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo asciilifeform was talking of a whole fs.
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin's not going anywhere, if you are going to introduce a dependency for storage why not just leap to ZFS?
asciilifeform: my grandfather worked on a hydraulic computer. memory literally leaked.
asciilifeform: the secret of being a war...
undata: the secret to being a whore is to fuck all
mircea_popescu: the secret to being a core is to leak all...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform and therefore the secret to being a whore is to fuck all ? << No, secret to being a whore is to be firm on prices.
mircea_popescu: the secret to being a store is to keep all...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and therefore the secret to being a whore is to fuck all ?
asciilifeform: 'the secret of being a bore is to tell all'
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Sounds like you need a domain redirecting to BitBet such as aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaBitbet.su
undata: nubbins`: a global permanent record of anything you like; your newspaper can suck it.
asciilifeform: i had it scroll to terminal for a spell
nubbins`: y'know, i've got a newspaper for sale...
nubbins`: there's a wiki?
ben_vulpes: i know that i'm a barbarian but i'm more of a Sven than a Hulk.
ben_vulpes: not being cpp competent, a useful thing for me to do is write a bash btc harness that points bitcoinds at each other for mining, tx validation, broadcast, etc.
mircea_popescu: this'd seem a part.
ben_vulpes: this is actually a thing that i am working on.
nubbins`: yeah i've suffered a couple chokes here but seems to be still downloading blocks
mircea_popescu: he's not gonna pull a pankkake on us over it is he ?
ben_vulpes: t9 is a lost technology like lisp.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah looks like an inverted porn career. chick turns 17 and 11 months, does 170 featurs that year, then 50 the next and then 2 a year to pay rent til 65.
ben_vulpes: my 0.5.3 is down because xcode is a resource hog
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a good look as to specifically w
undata: how many years will I be waiting for a blockchain
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: See, my reading of the story is that the Silicon Valley management style is even more broken than typical 'Murican MBA bullshit. <<< really, it's just a lot more inconsistent. meaning the scary stories are TRUELY scary.
kakobrekla: >It has been over 30 years since the distinguished Slovenian designer Davorin Savnik designed an Electronic Telephone Apparatus (ETA) 85 for Iskra. Beside the fact that it won numerous awards for design and that you can still see the phone being used today, the design got stolen and was a big hit in USA.
asciilifeform: bt is actually useful in that, with a certain gizmo, lets you use 'real' phone
BingoBoingo needs to get a Western Electric for the return of dialup days
mircea_popescu: samsung, too cheap to even justify the paint to put a model number on it.