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asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932215 << that comp case, btw, may have been an inept clone of 1 of my current ones, where ps goes in bottom and ~intake~ fan sucks cold air through filter in the bottom panel. but the orcs did not bother evidently to think about why, and... decided to put ~hot~ end there !
asciilifeform distinctly recalls a thread where asciilifeform was unable to try some heathen proggy because 'the correct' tcl would not build in his gentoo. but sadly cannot find in o(1)..
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 07:00:57 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931978 << pretty much thast was the idea yeah. iirc we even discussed tcl in ancient thread re this same matter
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932188 << my objection to e.g. tcl isn't in 'martian syntax', but that it's a titanic pile of ??? in c, exactly like python, perl, et al
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 07:21:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932043 << as far as we know this is probably needed in the general.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932202 << ada imho is uniquely unsuited to 'munge 9000 strings' type of proggy. so not sure whether would ever want pg glue in it. any attempt to use, will be tremendously ugly
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 07:07:00 mp_en_viaje: much like ye olde red army tanks worked if parta made by same factory not of same kind
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932193 << it's exactly like the infamous 'ppsh' submachine gun factory, where in early models parts in fact were not interchangeable, cuz pre-selected from piles to work 'in set'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 06:59:30 mp_en_viaje: trying to maybe gwt out of it, hence the work to spec "blog" in the abstract ; but mp-wp stack works for trilema TODAY ; i ain't taking a break from publishing untul "better world". god knows the week long #trilema outage was long enough.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932187 << loox, btw, that diana_coman has a working mirror ! so neveragain 'ooops no l0gz!', ha.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aa ok, wasn't hanbot. i was thinking i was merely thick.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 09:57:25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931848 << this character mentioned 4 or 5 times recently... but does it have a name ? ( i admit, when 1st saw picture, assumed it was a young photo-shy hanbot )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 08:58:09 trinque: various "block explorers" show that one as shipped. afaik all have.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931860 << weird shit.... apparently i was looking at a stale page. sorry about that.
mp_en_viaje: looks like an hour or so to brasov...
BingoBoingo: The Argentines also refuse to publish any charts outlining the EEZ their Navy enforces
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Well, its the Argentine Navy firing in the general direction of Chinese boats. And they did sink one Chinese boat in 2016.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 12:03:30 BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932212 << No, the Argentines are dumb enough to have their navy fire upon the Chinese boats fairly routinely to the point China's papers report on it http://archive.is/WzLiZ
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932251 << yes ; but a) that's not chinese paper and b) i dunno what naval warfare this is from, but the "fired and nothing happened" seems to confirm my comment.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 09:53:41 BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932174 << VW type 2, recently taken out of cosmoline pit?
mp_en_viaje: it;s not "just the tunnel", bout 30-40km each way, radio dead zone.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 08:52:51 diana_coman: apparently transfagarasan not that well covered, lol
mp_en_viaje: i honestly dun see the prioblem with in-chan delivery.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:54:01 trinque: lobbesbot, maybe it could pm instead
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932106 << what, the later tell delivery ?
diana_coman: aha, the db; kk
diana_coman: asciilifeform: which raw dump link? the db dump you mean?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma cycle the dumper manually . go and load the 'raw dump link' in 30s or so. (and if anyone speaks between now and when you import it, can fill the hole with the raw export knob and eater.py )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: can I get a raw dump of the logs to feed the bot or how best to sync?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: re vtree I considered it but atm the source is your blog so there it is; when I get around to wrap it up I'll sign + publish etc
asciilifeform: btw i have found that the banners spill the screen on some exotic browsers ( crapple's, in particular ) but did not bother yet to try and fix somehow
asciilifeform: why ty diana_coman .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: indeed it does! and yes, I'll have to look into something for younghands probably but pizarro will stay there too
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia-test/2019-08-30#1000017 << you'll prolly want to swap that link for wherever you keep your personal vtree
asciilifeform: re banners , i expected that folx will want to put own , rather than use mine. ( plus there's no practical way to put any such thing in a v genesis ) so i omitted'em
asciilifeform: diana_coman: seems to work !!
asciilifeform: ( in the form orig. sent in by mod6 iirc )
asciilifeform: ( and if anyone want to make a moar readable one -- plz ! )
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Thank you
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: thanks! got it and it's online already.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mod6 the links to your pizarro banners appear to all be 404 on mod6.net, is there any way you could assemble all the banners together in a blog post or something?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/static/piz.jpg Here's one. I'll try to dig for where the rest of the mod6 banners are. Searching the #pizarro logs returned 404'd links
diana_coman looks at the pile of lisp books waiting on the shelf
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/09d-hunchentoot-vib.html << The Tar Pit -- Hunchentoot: requests and replies [b]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo can I get that pizarro banner to hang in there?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you!
diana_coman: yeeeee, works and test-live at logs.ossasepia.com (185.163.46.29)
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932212 << No, the Argentines are dumb enough to have their navy fire upon the Chinese boats fairly routinely to the point China's papers report on it http://archive.is/WzLiZ
BingoBoingo: "Creo que va a venir el préstamo del FMI, pero estarán esperando el respaldo por parte de la oposición" << Argentard of apparent import in the Argentardocracy discussing pending, yet to be revealed currency exchange controls. Dude just assumes more dole fodder is on the way so long as Argentines all agree to the right ritual handwashing.
diana_coman: it needed one more install but anyways; nao to see about apache
diana_coman: ha, at least I got the bot running and joining the chan (ossasepia-test), yeee
asciilifeform will eat the remaining log after tea; brb
asciilifeform: init the db (via the supplied script) and let reader & bot run in background . then see how behaves.
asciilifeform: the www reader will then also display that chan, can easily test.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i tested the bot by setting chan to e.g. #asciilifeform-test . can do similar, then you can use whatever unregged nick etc (dun fughet to set pw to empty then)
asciilifeform: if debugs are off, thing is pretty quiet in re log. (to avoid filling disk with kilometres of crapola in normal operation)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the config knobs were set (easy part!!)
asciilifeform: if you get something other than a working www & bot, turn on the debug knobs.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun fughet to set up the config knobs (per readme)
diana_coman: and ofc I need to see if the *bot* also works, lolz
diana_coman: will try! thank you asciilifeform
diana_coman: asciilifeform: what's the incantation to do with apache to check now?
diana_coman: i.e. so far I could at least actually run the reader and it's waiting; ran the eater on my own ossasepia deeded logs and it ate
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 04:19:52 spyked: re. http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931011 <-- /me has been thinking a bit about this after reading the discussion, and it occurs to me that one of the reasons that might keep people from signing items is that there's no way to "unsign" them. nor that is desirable imho, but "what if" some sign piece of coad turns out to burn your house to the ground. in any case, this reveals to me the (
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932162 << there of course is no such thing as 'unsign'. next best thing is 'antipatch', i.e. where you fix the errata. and imho all signatures oughta include human-readable annotation
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 22:51:04 lobbes: For clarity, on testbed I got the eater.py and the reader.py working fine. Was able to view loglines and search with no issue (on localhost only, didn't test port forwarding). Did *not* test the bot.py, however. For reference, my version info: Flask 0.12.2; psycopg2 2.7.4; Python 2.7.15
diana_coman: hm, in better & unexpected news, a fresh last-ditch try seems to possibly work - with precisely flask as lobbes's (http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932146)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 04:12:47 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931955 <-- recall, /me already wrote a toy prototype as his introduction to ada. other than the fact that it looks noobish and requires work to integrate with the c-isms, writing logger on top of it would also require something along the lines of a. mod_adalisp and b. handling other wwwistic s
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932159 << mod_xyz is only really needed with ancient horrors like php, which otherwise sink 1e9 cpu cycles on revving up the interpreter with ~each~ www req. for items that serve themselves up on a port, dun need mod_xyz, can simply fwd port
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 04:09:03 spyked: and the only *quick* solution that I can think of here is signing the binturd that I've been using for the last few years; if anyone has a better idea, pl0x to chime in
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932158 << this is more or less what was done with orig. gnat. but eventually will have to be solved properly (i.e. 'here's an asm thing for $machine, with which in turn can build x...')
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/prorogation-queen-to-suspend-parliament-after-apparently-tiring-of-exit-free-brexit/ << Qntra -- PROROGATION: Queen To Suspend Parliament After Apparently Tiring Of Exit Free Brexit
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking something like http://trilema.com/2016/the-tatu-party-bus-and-other-wasps/ but clean
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 06:34:02 mp_en_viaje: anyone wanna guess the make ?
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932174 << VW type 2, recently taken out of cosmoline pit?
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932170 << I mean cuntoo exactly. testbed is the exact iron in this post
diana_coman: apparently transfagarasan not that well covered, lol
mp_en_viaje: anyway, point being argentine is ~equiv innocent black youth : pure entropic process, exactly like yeast fermentation. "industry" pointed misnomer for the activity.
mp_en_viaje: whoopsy, lost coverage there a second crossing the transfagarasan
mp_en_viaje: ~most commodity classes are more monetized than new cars, which is universally what the argentines do : they also make heaters that are worse heaters than scrap wire. and worse coputer cases than tree trunks and so on.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:36:05 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: China doesn't even particularly like Argentina. The Argentine Navy shoots at their fishing boats.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:29:43 BingoBoingo: Well, probably waiting for local labor prices to drop enough to outsource the spear work to the Paraguayo immigrant population.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932060 << certainly how the tutsi massacre thing worked irl.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:28:21 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the chinese can show up with the slave galleons and start loadin' whenever they feel like. ( and it is a deep enigma, far above asciilifeform's paygrade, to explain wtf they're waiting for )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:22:37 asciilifeform: atm i have a distinct unpleasant feeling that the ratchet presently does not ratchet very well.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932053 << better than no ratcher but indeed not yet better by much
mp_en_viaje: i was here many times before (though not in the past... well, 20 or so yeaes) but i never knew this is what i wanted to make it complete!
mp_en_viaje: ftr, this is fucking beautiful, going towards balea on 7c while reading logs.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:09:24 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you'd need to bake pg glue for ada, there aint any
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932043 << as far as we know this is probably needed in the general.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:08:33 asciilifeform: well if you feel like sweating out 3 kilometres of malloc() and realloc()'s and errno()'s -- who am i to say
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932041 << i'm sure there's a library/tool for this/that.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, that you'll be sinking in more of your time than it's worth, you know that going in. "modern computing paradigm".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:02:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform: so then what, I'm still better off writing the bot in C or what?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932038 << not better ; just, different set of "tools". some people have preferences as to th exact manner of timewasting.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 20:59:22 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i vaguely suspect that this is the thing that discouraged past folx who made loggers, from genesising. 'dafuq is the point, likely no one can even replicate this'
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932035 << possibly the case indeed ; but we gotta start actually documenting it with a view to ever fixing it, there's no way the fuck out alresfy.
mp_en_viaje: esltatrds managed to reimplement mirvniki farming-powered parochial worlview.
mp_en_viaje: much like ye olde red army tanks worked if parta made by same factory not of same kind