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mircea_popescu: well... it's a culture...
assbot: Let’s Cut To The Chase, Is La Serenissima A Cult? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/
bounce: yeah, but "packets" with modulated fax signal in a sampled-and-compressed voice channel is rather tricky to get right. better to demodulate the fax and send the data.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'own tablet' - means what? own chipset, nothing from 'arm' ? own os, from zero? << From slate with frame is a couple hours, input device is chalk
asciilifeform: (gone are the days when a live monkey had to plug a tape recorder into your pair)
asciilifeform: incidentally, these are usually accessed via www now, and quite a few have been loudly pwned
asciilifeform: even the automagic bugging machine mandated at every telco switch is specified, in grindingly pedantic detail, in a dead tree standards doc
asciilifeform: 'reflection technologies' had, around 1990, a prototype of a pocket phone that sent, received faxes, and view through ocular
bounce: there's a bigger pattern here though
mircea_popescu: gals want a guy that's funny and whatever, guy wants a girl that's infertile.
bounce: I don't *plan* on using that sort of thing, but if I'm building a phone it's gotta have the capability
asciilifeform: incidentally, i bet there's still a battalion at ft meade in charge of curating a library of sploits for fax machines.
bounce: used a faxmodem. good for talking to gov't but also for bypassing phone queues
asciilifeform keeps a fax in consulting office. it is used only for usg.
bounce: I sent a couple
bounce: but having "an app" to talk to such a gateway would be on the list
bounce: sure. though +/- 30v is a bit of a pain. and anyway, nobody does that these days, you'd interface through a 'net gateway somewhere.
bounce: 'sides, the point of building a phone is to have access to all the capabilities on offer with the networks it gives access to
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe i'm weird, but the only actual point of calling, ie voice, would be a woman, and rather than call (ie, on phone) i'd always prefer to call (ie, bitch get on plane)
asciilifeform: quite a few folks have wireless gizmos for fallback
bounce: heck, put a e-ink display on it. though those exist in sorta-colour too
asciilifeform: why would someone with a computer use a phone << dial-up from phonebooth in $turdworldshithole ?
mircea_popescu: (why would someone with a computer use a phone)
asciilifeform: closed firmware though. but they take 'hayes modem' commands and present a pcm device for voice.
ben_vulpes: why should there be a "phone" object instead of a thing one plugs into computers that provides a /dev/phone?
asciilifeform: on the moon, perhaps a piece of fine roquefort cheese exists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about it, a cop-filming, revenge-porn-making, electrictity stealing personal dronepet!
asciilifeform: streetlight, unlike sol, is a very concentrated source of light
mircea_popescu: THIS will be the next step in b-a terrorism.
mircea_popescu: shit that's a great idea.
asciilifeform: can mitigate, to some extent, with a return-to-base and cell swap gambit
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "if you can hear Shooty you're not fucking her right" as a slogan ?
mircea_popescu: bounce but one specifically optimised for the role of following you around taking pictures of things. like a sort of gopro with ai.
mircea_popescu: you know, ever since the photo debate with bounce a few days ago, i'm kinda curious to see this photography drone gadget. imagine all the YOLO picutres taken by this orbiting drone thing.
johntraveller: bounce: a dutch entrepreneur in the city I’m moving to had his own tablet built a few years back
assbot: Ubuntu is a worse piece of shit than MS-DOS ever was. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/
bounce: and do a network side that isn't as full of holes as the current crop, and do proper separation, and provide a full off of the wireless side while leaving the other functions available, and so on.
bounce: you could make a phone that gives you as much insight and control as available; this is quite a bit more than currently available.
bounce: have shop run up a sample or two and I'd be happy really
chetty: I would go for a phone I knew didnt have n*a in it
bounce: more like, have a couple drafts laying around, should probably try and merge them
mircea_popescu: that may be a steamrollin' arrangement.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: hmm, maybe I should organise a couple local guys to do research and I write it up in english?
bounce has a phone spec in mind that could stand building
mircea_popescu: johntraveller fluent foreigner is usually a better model than local esl, but maybe worth a shot.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: so I’m moving back to china in a couple of weeks. (working with my russian friend on a bunch of mobile-related projects). depending on how much money there is in it, my 1st thought is find a local finance student who could research/write part-time?
BingoBoingo: Definitely a glory hole in qntra's coverage there
johntraveller: kinda though I’m a bit rusty
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: spent a couple of years in china and a year in HK, visited malaysia, india, tibet, phillipines, algeria and a bunch of european coutnries
asciilifeform: johntraveller: outside of the anglo world, there is (or at least, until recently, was) a bacchanalia of xenophiliac idiocy ('let's copy usa! they have cadillacs and we have trabant, they must be clever')
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, it's very easy to see the craziness of romanian o wait. nope. listen, somehow english speakers had a lot of trouble figuring out exactly how and exactly where ro nonsense was broken, back in the 90s.
mircea_popescu: guy had a pretty gf and a two year old kid. too old, iho.
mircea_popescu avoids starting a rant on the topic as he's ranted recently and is well rantsated :D
asciilifeform: other thing is, when reading his 'i'm a surrender monkey, usg cannot be killed' posts, must remember that he's a 'tenured sea cucumber' in the sense that he keeps a dependopotamus, it birthed children, and he knows he won't be making it out of the gravity pit.
mircea_popescu: this is a point.
mircea_popescu: we don't have a plan either. who the fuck needs plans when you got wmd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah, I followed a bunch of the NRx guys for a long time as I hadn’t encountered anyone else saying the same things. but I got bored after a while, they clearly don’t have any plans or goals
asciilifeform: mr mold is a junkyard dog, with all that it entails. did not grow up with classical education, no latin, no greek. me neither.
cazalla: kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC. <<< a lot of the accounts were empty from the sample bitcomsec provide
bounce: googling gives a couple of instant brainrot inducing "solutions". man, freedesktop is bad for the brain and no mistake.
mircea_popescu: jurov better a software tumor of the mailman than a malignant tumor of the sexware!
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: prior to 2012, yes. but since about a year or two ago people have started to cluster around the ‘neoreactionary’ label. that image is the meta-community growing self-aware
bounce: as a totally wild guess, could try and stop nvidia from modesetting so the intel thing gets to do it
mircea_popescu: so basically "this" isn't really anything, is it ? random wave at a rave.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: yes. but there’s a fringe of right-wing people (who have been slowly leaving)
asciilifeform: although arguably a box with the blog driver may as well be a winblows box
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: interesting. I would say the most active pre-existing groups (in order of size) were the manosphere guys, the HBD/white nationalist bloggers, the ‘orthosphere’ (a bunch of catholic bloggers), the lesswrong crowd
mircea_popescu: remmeber, this is ubuntu, ie a linux implementation of windows
bounce hasn't fought with xorg in a long time. not impressed by that bunch though.
jurov noticed his mailman addon looks exactly like a tumor, in other news
johntraveller: http://akarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dark-enlightenment-map-1-5.png < kinda. a bunch of pre-existing online communities started to find each other, and moldbug was a key node in that graph
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: A formalist manifesto
johntraveller: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted.html < and this is a good overview of moldbug’s post-libertarian framework.
johntraveller: so he started looking up other anti-dem sources, eventually came across carlyle, to a lesser extent froude
johntraveller: so moldbug/yarvin was a typical california libertarian who dropped a lot of acid
johntraveller: with the obvious caveat I’m describing a fiarly heteregenous group of people and ideas so my summary will contain my own bias
johntraveller: ok I’ll give as accurate a condensed overview as I can
mircea_popescu: check it out, this constitutes a threat now.
mircea_popescu: "Turner wrote on his blog June 2 that three federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" for their decision in a case involving ordinances banning handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park."
cazalla: nubbins`: the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare <<< we have maintain the facade regulations in some parts of Melbourne, i like it tbh, it's the one part of town that looks nice
cazalla: anyway, i update that post with the log of our chat, i guess i was a little harsh but he would only give me fluff
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << yeah prolly not a bad blog idea.
mircea_popescu: people worth under a bitcent aren't even worth knowing.
gribble: Error: '6C24' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinero-project-seeks-150000-for-bitcoin-gift-cards/ <<< a better play is to publish the chat than just excerpts, otherwise you're open to accusations of cherry picking/out of context/etc. <<< few too many last night, guy got snippy and well that is the result
BingoBoingo: Well, sometimes the handled has a longer lifespan than the handler expects. Like pet tortoises or parrots that get passed down by different generations, because why the fuck would they live longer than 7 sequential dogs.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << I guess I have homework now.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!' << Depends on how well they obey their leash. But every now and then you get a Hal Turner.
cazalla: jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask <<< i didn't get answers to my questions, we just talked about bitcoin a little
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall.
kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC.
asciilifeform: how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!'
asciilifeform: imho the bugger's a usg agent provocateur.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna do a paypal payment for me ?
mircea_popescu: whereas the female obnoxious adolescent camps could be in a swamp. they may wear whatever they make themselves, gotta build swamphouses out of planks they make themselves and gotta spend 6 hours a day looking for pearls in the muck.
mircea_popescu: punkman could whitespace to the left of Recent bundles lines be used to include a truncated list of contributor names ?
asciilifeform: not a factory of heroes by any measure, no.