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asciilifeform doubts that anyone will be shocked at the discovery that one can do this
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: that works
asciilifeform: http://www.developer.it/post/gravatars-why-publishing-your-email-s-hash-is-not-a-good-idea
asciilifeform: (it used md5, iirc)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there were some results with dictionary attack a while ago
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: !s wot not scalar
asciilifeform: so this character is known here, but is not in wot proper ?
asciilifeform: but probably not enough to be visible to unarmed eye
asciilifeform: decimation: not quite, in got some su hardware on the cheap
asciilifeform: rivers'o'meat!
asciilifeform: there we go.
asciilifeform: (somewhere permanent)
asciilifeform: this deserves to be posted somewhere
asciilifeform: almost certainly will rest on meatgangs, just as the old world did. (i.e. sets of folks who actually interact daily, not necessarily in meatspace)
asciilifeform: the most worrying sign is that the fella intends to somehow make a living from this
asciilifeform: assumed centralized derpatron, because this is almost inevitably in the mix when folks reinvent in the dark
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was not initially clear what was meant by 'whitelist'
asciilifeform: (however much of it there is)
asciilifeform: because came up with it in the dark, used chewing gum, knife, remains of his parachute straps, and bones of travelling companion to build it.
asciilifeform: (not really problem, as such, unless one made catastrophic mistake in empetting)
asciilifeform: but distinct problem from chatting with wild creatures, yes
asciilifeform: clearly not erryone.
asciilifeform: pets don't count, you know
asciilifeform: w0w
asciilifeform: in deep theory, yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought about flipping the cardboard flag to lure'em in
asciilifeform: will post valgrind output tomorrow
asciilifeform: (not continuous run, this was a portable box that spent ~4 or so hrs in a car)
asciilifeform: 173874.
asciilifeform: speaking of,
asciilifeform: must happen.
asciilifeform: mega-business, yes
asciilifeform: PopeSci - laboratory supplies approved by the holy see
asciilifeform: then pyromania.
asciilifeform: poke smot, woke smeed (TM)
asciilifeform: folks who smoke weed
asciilifeform: the squid giveth, the squid taketh away.
asciilifeform: (promotional gimmick)
asciilifeform: they built phree charging garages in key chump habitats in usa
asciilifeform: phree
asciilifeform: where i live - about 1/2mil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: according to decimation's chart - very close to this.
asciilifeform: <decimation> http://www.cnet.com/news/silicon-valley-talent-wars-engineers-come-get-your-250k-salary/ <<< the mega-l0l is that 250kusd doesn't even buy a garage there
asciilifeform: !up livegnik
asciilifeform: with a distinct lack of clarity re: what it is all for.
asciilifeform: so far it seems to add up to a 80% re-implementation of the proper wot out of toothpicks and tape.
asciilifeform: the text is astonishingly painful to read.
asciilifeform: what is a 'real id' ?
asciilifeform: this is how existing wots work. but to say that this 'solves sybils' is, at the very least, odd
asciilifeform: so your system reduces to 'if you trust 1,001 people who turn out to be sybils, shame on you, you oughta have known better' ?
asciilifeform: try to answer this one compactly, it should be answerable. who composes the whitelist ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: the pope ?
asciilifeform: whitelist composed by whom? kim jong un ?
asciilifeform: or, for that matter, people? (how do you decide what constitutes a person?)
asciilifeform: livegnik: what is involved in a 'sybil-proof' wot for machines ?
asciilifeform: livegnik: consider telling us what you perceive is the advantage of your product over what you now know is the state of the art.
asciilifeform: livegnik: are you familiar with the 'wot' we use here ?
asciilifeform: (naturally, usg will pocket the bulk of this difference, but such is the nature of muppet war)
asciilifeform: there will be myriad parasitic waterfalls like 'uber', i expect, which feed upon the difference between what it -actually- costs to do something like driving cab - at butugychag subsistence levels with zero regard for the meatbag's future - and what usgtronic tentacles which masquerade as american firms presently charge.
asciilifeform: and probably has a day job, so he doesn't need anything like a 'living wage' either
asciilifeform: in the sese that random schmuck driving 'uber' has no paperwork, no pensions, no unemployment insurances, cannot sue for anything, etc.
asciilifeform: <trinque> end-cap on the thread is that this trend of Ubering seems to be about trying to dissolve responsibility << this is part of it, but the major profit comes from de-institutializing - de-usgizing - the cabbies and hotels
asciilifeform: this is unheard of in usa ☟︎
asciilifeform: <trinque> poor hotel cleaning ladies dealt with actual human shit far more often than I'd have expected << one of the major brainmelters for me, when i went to c3, was that the gurlz who serviced the hotel rooms, were pretty
asciilifeform actually used 'uber' for the first - and so far, only time - getting back from airport after c3
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu> sort-of like impromptu dentistry << big business in the turd world (of which usa is properly considered - a part)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> airbnb is even funnier, the fine for being part of it is what, 4-5k in ny ? << 'airbnb', 'uber', etc. fill a direly urgent market niche in usa - 'orcish' favour-style services for folks with no friends. it would take a very strong chance of being busted, for folks to quit using these. (consider what is the penalty for, e.g., smoking weed - does it deter?)
asciilifeform: unless explicitly asked otherwise.
asciilifeform: i much prefer systems where what i put in, is what ends up coming out.
asciilifeform: jurov: can we have less mutilation (file names?) plz ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: please say if you got something else.
asciilifeform: sha512(asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke.patch) == 9d7cab14db48000ed91d12301f19341ce55e86fe919922f8a4f80f49625b881b296deb037d35ef899996e097b4f1c0ab5a035c2ced04758b9838f3924ce4ed78
asciilifeform: <danielpbarron> there's yer answer: it's sha1 << why do we have sha1 anywhere ☟︎
asciilifeform: <mod6> meanwhile in gentoo land, kernel panic'd again << that's not a real kernel panic, again. that is a box that can't read its rootfs
asciilifeform: no exceptions.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> tho i suppose this one's small enough to read << they should ALL be small enough to read.
asciilifeform: is anyone still having checksum problems ?
asciilifeform started valgrindized run of thermonuked-orphanage tester
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: mod6: either 1) don't or 2) build ext4 into the kernel
asciilifeform: mod6: you have an ext4 rootfs dontcha.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: why does this feel familiar.
asciilifeform: ' President Perón envisioned that a benefit of setting up an aviation factory in Argentina would be to introduce production standards comparable to world-class manufacturing facilities. However, Tank realized that production tools and jigs were not feasible at this stage and relied instead on essentially hand-built examples.' (pediwikian l0l)
asciilifeform: but other than this - sure
asciilifeform: the jets were designed, it seems, by germans (naturally) under peron
asciilifeform learned today that ar once knew how to make airplanes
asciilifeform: how much bomber needed against poor orcs.
asciilifeform: (which, afaik, is what happened)
asciilifeform: but it would be fitting if ru were to pay for hallucinated oil with hallucinated airplanes.
asciilifeform did not drill, does not know
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfker6cK3SM << historic lulz
asciilifeform: technically met the conditions
asciilifeform: brits tried to invoke nato, i am still unclear on why this did not work
asciilifeform wishes the ar folks luck in sinking that annoying naturally-occurring aircraft carrier currently infested with nato
asciilifeform: ar