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asciilifeform: we have schmuck-P; if one were to divide Π(∀n) by (schmuck-P ^ 2), result is J*K where J is $schmuck-Q and K is $otherschmuck-Q. thereby K*schmuck-P == otherschmuckmodulus.
asciilifeform: for the record, since folks were asking, much simpler than i thought,
asciilifeform promises to investigate this oddity, and see if there are others like it, as soon as finishes current plate
asciilifeform: but that shouldn't throw off my apparatus.
asciilifeform: the only peculiar thing i can see in this key is the use of odd orcish hieroglyphs in the id string
asciilifeform: no this is a good find, i will add it to the queue of three or four other mysterymeats
asciilifeform: jurov: most peculiar. it is a valid rsa key.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: 'first ecstacy, then laundry.' (al schwartz)
asciilifeform: l0k
asciilifeform: factor one
asciilifeform: perhaps the ssl folks did
asciilifeform: eh waitup
asciilifeform: mxtm: some 2 schmucks (of which i've identified 1, but the other will follow in a week or so) had common factor in their rsa private keys.
asciilifeform: kudos to mircea_popescu for supplying the cpu cycles for this apparatus pro bono
asciilifeform: the most lulzy part (what the common factor was) is not even posted publicly yet.
asciilifeform: and check yer mails
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu read log
asciilifeform: ahahahaha.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu!
asciilifeform: jurov: there is a second, but it will take a while to unearth it.
asciilifeform: but my point above was, what are we to do with the answer? it could be coming from just about anyone!
asciilifeform: phuctor does not send automatic emails. to anyone. so, let's see what happens when mircea_popescu writes to mr schmuck
asciilifeform: if keys are identities are people - which, for purposes of wot and dealings among folks who will never meet in the flesh, they most certainly are - that one: has died.
asciilifeform: and we must not neglect the third party - the fine folks who boobytrapped mr schmuck's copy of pgp.
asciilifeform: to rephrase, he no longer (if ever did) have sole control of his private key
asciilifeform: in the eyes of the gods
asciilifeform: which is to say, i could sign, with his key, 'please rape me in public with a donkey' and it will be as legit as anything he will ever say himself
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu likes to speak of having 'killed' that greek derp, but in a very real sense the schmuck whose key we just broke, is dead
asciilifeform: we haven't really discussed it, but there are interesting implications in breaking a fella's pgp key.
asciilifeform: so here's my other observation:
asciilifeform: davout: in not too long, i will learn who the 2nd one is.
asciilifeform: davout: there sure are
asciilifeform: and the poor bugger appears to be in the strong set, no less.
asciilifeform: phun phuct: i never actually tested the code which displays phuctored moduli. (couldn't be bothered to craft a dud key, it's a pain) - but it worked. because was written correctly. perhaps a novel concept to some folks
asciilifeform recused himself from the bet
asciilifeform: somebody's gonna chortle on cock
asciilifeform: (he isn't anyone we know. but we did promise to spare)
asciilifeform: in fact, i'm rather unclear on what will happen if key's owner wakes up and asks 'pretty please don't rape me on camera'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i woke you up because the info necessary to resolve this bet is not public (as of yet.) hence tricky.
asciilifeform: (for anyone perplexed - we promised not to announce dud keys publicly, at least not if key's owner answers the warning - see http://nosuchlabs.com/theory )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla https://bitbet.us/bet/1144/phuctor-will-find-a-bad-key can be resolved? get the necessary data from mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: yes, we broke a pgp key.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mail.
asciilifeform: jurov: you are quite right, the electrons would have to move laterally. but not necessarily in very sharp turns.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/stats << notice anything ?
asciilifeform: to imagine that this is why the bricks fly, is lunacy
asciilifeform: only for plebes condemned to arse searches and queues
asciilifeform: no tsa.
asciilifeform: 'learjet' etc
asciilifeform: what is this, 1890 ?
asciilifeform: elite, on trains?
asciilifeform: l0lwut
asciilifeform: '1945 Zeros Attack B-29 Formation over the Fujiama.'
asciilifeform: (where's arsebot ?)
asciilifeform: quite unrelated, but very spiffy >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC8bDCfZ_Cc
asciilifeform: (know why even? microshit exploder, iirc, could not view svg. at all.)
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: not meaningless >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Cis-trans.svg/1280px-Cis-trans.svg.png
asciilifeform: waiwut
asciilifeform: using money.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as me l0l
asciilifeform: where you try to minimize noise, get predictable mechanism, etc
asciilifeform: decimation: rng literally breaks most of the rules of 'civilian' electronic design
asciilifeform: what one might call 'spread spectrum' clocking.
asciilifeform: decimation: the correct way to sample is at (within feasible limits) random intervals.
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: paid mircea_popescu a visit yet ?
asciilifeform: decimation: at any rate, the -correct- way to sample these for experimental purposes is with either parallel port or a generic i/o gadget (e.g., 'ftdi')
asciilifeform: !up indiancandy1
asciilifeform: williamdunne: she is/was one of mircea_popescu's camgurlz, iirc
asciilifeform: williamdunne: see third photo from ben_vulpes's link for what cover looked like
asciilifeform: williamdunne: rf shield (in the photo, it is missing the cover)
asciilifeform: decimation: the problem with using sound card would be that it has ac-coupled input.
asciilifeform: specifically the one on the left.
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: and the item we were talking about, was this: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mf3_compare.jpg
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: sorry only cold
asciilifeform: decimation: the noise doesn't matter, rng outputs logic-level signal
asciilifeform: in regular use.
asciilifeform: decimation: i have one such installed right here
asciilifeform: or, if cannot find machine having such - sound card
asciilifeform: to use parallel port
asciilifeform: decimation: this was what i told ben_vulpes at c3
asciilifeform: now, if you have a -very- well-behaved os, you could sample it as rs232 anyway. but then you discover (see old mircea_popescu article where we stepped on this caltrop!) that you end up losing bytes that match 'control' section of ascii table
asciilifeform: i.e. a pin that changes level when it wants.
asciilifeform: it's raw rng
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: but it doesn't.
asciilifeform: (if it did, it would be perfectly usable as rs232)
asciilifeform: http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/image-files/how-rs232-works-tx-logic-rs232-diag.png << example
asciilifeform: it doesn't spit out start or stop bits
asciilifeform: decimation: that dongle is just the thing for, e.g., pogo - but the rng is not a rs232 device...
asciilifeform: for soldering iron! lol
asciilifeform: vice?!
asciilifeform: and who holds soldering iron like this, l0l!
asciilifeform: (after i explained, in agonizing detail, why this will not work...)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes plugged it into a serial port ?!?!!
asciilifeform: and wai wat
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: before you go - did it work ?
asciilifeform: aha it's a joystick
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what does the knob do ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134108 << they don't need to turn sharp corners, in our hypothetical machine ☝︎☟︎