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decimation: asciilifeform: I presume you are going to dump support for useless cryptos and compressions, etc?
asciilifeform: decimation: one can - and i do - disregard the useless crud
decimation: ah yeah that's what I want thanks
decimation: "what part is complex [of pgp]" << when I do a gpg --list-packets --verbose < pubkey I find much that I desire to be documented
usg_press_machin: Right chaps, I'm out. Night all.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've been following his forum trolling a bit, some decent reads
mircea_popescu: people think best with a written record, i find.
mircea_popescu: i hate london, and why do you think a pub somewhere'd be a better venue ?!
usg_press_machin: I think the problem is that governments can do nasty things. We each have our own way of dealing with it. I do so within the rules the system sets out; MP does it his own way. Different approaches.
mircea_popescu: "this isn't a good apple because its not fda approved" "have you tasted it ?" "i don't need to"
mircea_popescu: that's also never going away. if i thought the victim was kinda cool i'd not have killed them. once i killed them, obviously i will go on thinking they sucked.
usg_press_machin: I think it was Hannah Arendt who pointed it out - "bureaucracy is rule by nobody"
usg_press_machin: I mean, it's not a reified critter, definitely. But it qua legal fiction certainly exists - it's an abstraction.
usg_press_machin: If "sovereign" means "monopoly on the use of force" or determining how force should be used, I'm in the camp that the state makes that call. There should be exceptions and limitations, and it's the task of politically active people to make sure those lines reflect their views.
mircea_popescu: not like it's exactly a mystery what definitions i use :D
usg_press_machin: Thanks Mircea. I think crypto has a place to carve out individual privacy, but I don't think it necessarily follows that the only option is to view the relationship in terms of conflict. Reading now
justusranvier: I like Tom Baugh's tendency to corrupt the youth
usg_press_machin: I'd disagree - that'd be protest. Rebellion implies something a bit more organised, serious, and threatening.
usg_press_machin: It's a question of legal convention. Paying legal taxes to a legally installed government has never, ever been considered a war crime. I'll take my chances
mircea_popescu: the future is eminently unknowable. i for one am definitely going to push for hangings.
usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu yes but I don't think paying taxes to the USG - no matter what the USG does - is Nuremberg material.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck am i going to make gilded business cards then ?
ben_vulpes: mind you i have no idea how assbot renders pages internally
mircea_popescu: please get me some anti-eyeroll tape i might strain something.
decimation: I would agree with his point that the pgp protocol is complex, but I suspect that anything that tries to solve the same problems will have similar complexity
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tell me about it i had a dev send me an ssh key in a fancy attachment the other day
mircea_popescu: by now i can sorta distinguish the noobs from the veterans because the noobs send me gpg blobs with "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;" mixed in, whereas the veterans just neatly paste the pgp in the email body. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as if you know, plaintext mail isn't end to end encrypted. why not ? i do it all the time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's so lulzy, the crap these people publish. "o i hate pgp, it's too secure, pls to use centrally distributed keys, so much lightyears better"
usg_press_machin: What's your view on it then? I'm openminded.
mircea_popescu: i don't fit.
usg_press_machin: if you're into it to fight the state, then go for it, I can respect that viewpoint.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, some people can't. which is fine. but don't go around claiming impotence as a virtue.
mircea_popescu: nothing, i guess.
BingoBoingo: I guess it's time to trade paper ATC IOU's (maybe joking?)
BingoBoingo: 44389, Almost 7 hours ago... I'm not sure ATC bot' %tslb... quite works...
mircea_popescu: to quote an old timer, "i have no idea, [you] just wandered in here one day and started talking"
mircea_popescu: maybe, i guess, on like the 3rd or so meta level.
mircea_popescu: i don't care if they do.
mircea_popescu: i keep forgetting about that and then talking at meanwhile devoiced ppls.
usg_press_machin: I recommend you take a look - then re-read the blogposts.
decimation: I did not.
usg_press_machin: But I suspect we're not that far off - did you all watch that "Declaration of Independence" video?
usg_press_machin: Roughly every thirty seconds or so, I spend my life glued to the computer.
decimation: usg_press_machin: I assume you are dying to give us pro usg propaganda?
ben_vulpes: i recommend a better handle tho, lest you get stuck with that one.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure you follow, usg_press_machin
decimation: oh sorry I missed that
usg_press_machin: I've been following the logs for a couple of months and figured it was a good opportunity to pop in.
usg_press_machin: I saw a number of hits from argentina; my heart sank
assbot: I guess that makes me a Tory | Preston Byrne
mircea_popescu: usg_press_machin i don't like you enough to pm. and no, not really. you can comment on it once it's done.
decimation: okay that's what I thought
assbot: I guess that makes me a Tory | Preston Byrne
mircea_popescu: but i am home!
justusranvier: I do think that invitation-only networks have a role in the future, and creating incentives for proper vetting will be important, however those are accomplshed.
justusranvier: I gave an example implementation, but it's purpose is mostly a thought exercise.
justusranvier: Mostly I just want people to start thinking along the lines of how to harden existing systems specifically different threat models than those they are accustomed to combating.
mircea_popescu: or at least, that's what i think on the matter.
justusranvier: I'd love to recover it for nostalgic purposes
justusranvier: I lost the password forum account, and don't have the email it was linked to any more. I may have an archived PGP key around somewhere that was linked to it though.
justusranvier: If you're going to speak about credit though, as far as I know I was the first person to suggest ising GPG-signed ratings for Bitcoin trading.
mircea_popescu: i hear great things about that bloomingdale's executives programme.
BigBitz: I would agree with that sentiment.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather do something useful with it nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: in other news, if anyone was ever curious, i give you horse vices.
mircea_popescu: i've just had it.
mircea_popescu: or else, i could document the best porterhouse steak in the history of porter houses everywhere.
mircea_popescu: now how would i know.
BigBitz: With your 100BTC I will document a trip to Vegas where I bet the whole amount on one roulette spin.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu sure. But I am not one of them.
mircea_popescu: theodred no, i'm romanian.
BigBitz: So I can go to Vegas.
ben_vulpes: ugh guys i suck at sales
ben_vulpes: maybe i'll key my keyid tatooed on my knuckles
theodred: as I said.. it usually works. anyways, how goes it?
mike_c: and i finally saw an ad. i guess i'm just a cheapskate. close my customer support ticket.
mike_c: ok, got login to work.. i get "mnope" two out of three times.
mike_c: well, when you see this. i can't login in to van-ads, and my ads don't seem to be running.
mircea_popescu: (and also, you could hexedit the map. i made a 6 ore deposit - 4 sugarcane - 4 tobascco - 6 wheat island once0
mircea_popescu: i fixed it by hexediting because trhe prices in amsterdam made no sense.
mircea_popescu: wywialm i take it that made sense ?
wywialm: thanks for your answer. I'll remember to post further questions in the comments
xmj: how do i update the notes on people i've ranked before, then?
mircea_popescu: and also, had you asked this on teh blog post, this comment'd have ended up on the blogpost. now it;s on the log. if some guy reads the post six months from now, i'll remember it, but vaguely, and i'll say "it's in the logs". how does that help him ?
chetty: <ben_vulpes> (although i did get this out of it: http://idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day.htm)// pretty good article on argentine eating habits
ben_vulpes: (although i did get this out of it: http://idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day.htm)
Mexual: i just saw a nubbins poster and ill ner drink tequila again
BigBitz: "Now that I have recovered everything except the wallet file the actual loss should be pegged at less than $2,000, twelve hundred of which is the cost point of our new backup system."
danielpbarron: I guess he found it?
danielpbarron: no, read the rating; i used his own words
danielpbarron: i wasn't "in" the hangout; I was asking questions in the troll box
cazalla: that's why i like danielpbarron, he keeps on true to his ideals regardless of the negs
cazalla: knew 3 long necks was not enough but at least i won't regret tonight tomorrow
cazalla: i'm empty :\
Mexual: i am tequila
cazalla: i do morning/lunch shift (she uses machine to express milk) so i have arvo/evening to myself
cazalla: i stopped for like a month but this fkn kid and the crying
cazalla: last longneck and then i'm done :\
cazalla: you must be drunker than i am