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mircea_popescu: gotta pass bacalaureat before may even consider going
tinto laboratory.
mircea_popescu: shoulda followed
the
topic.
the
topic is
there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and maybe we'll opt
to credit
this. or maybe we won't.
hanbot: s'about a 50% chance a googling a given unknown word in a #t article yields...just moar
t articles.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> dutches demanding less
than a pig would be workable economcially. but chronical rotinculo/mortidafame who imagine
they should get
the moon on a golden platter,
these aren't economically interesting. << googled rotinculo definition, got a suggestion of
trilema articles
to read
mircea_popescu: i'm sure
there's right now all sorts of ~in
their own mind~ important smart useful whatever folk.
they're not in
the wot,
they don't exist, and
this inexistence of
theirs WILL COUNT AGAINST
THEM
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of it. grab
the brass ring,
there's no way
to excuse it.
mircea_popescu: this because "luck" and skill are indistinguishable for
the unskilled.
mircea_popescu: yawell. he is not in charge of his own life in
this sense. what intentions he has matter not one wit.
mircea_popescu: there's very little leeway in
teh cold equations for
the usual human bullshit.
mircea_popescu: what, you expect kakobrekla will be remembered for anything other
than "oh,
the dude who couldn't swing being part of bitbet" ? for what exactly, he's gonna accomplish what in his life
to compensate for
that failure, cold fucking fusion ?
mircea_popescu: there is no "oh, i was busy with my dick" excuse
to explain why couldn't find way out of paper bag.
mircea_popescu: i was simply saying,
thr 50
that found
the door are definitionally and for
that reason alone better
than all
the others.
mircea_popescu: the sad, dirty secret of humanity is
that
the very cream of it ain't fit
to shine shoes.
mircea_popescu: certainly better
than any subhuman africans
toiling with
the donkeys.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i will say pirate, for all his warts, dpb, fucktarded ustard
teen as he was, and
the whole rest of
the menagerie are better people
than pick your pick. obama. hillary. nuland. whatever 5k dickless drones are sitting around wash dc offices reading
this now. all of everyone
mircea_popescu: ie, better
than all
the lazy fucks sitting on ass dreaming
their jwz/djb dream
mircea_popescu: looky,
that you don't like what
the cream looks like dun excuse you from having
to admit.
they found it, yes ? definitionally cream.
mircea_popescu: seems
to me assuming
that it did attract
the very cream of mankind is very safe indeed.
mircea_popescu: but let's just say
that mp started bitcoin cca 2011 as a very classical liberal. it didn't survive long.
mircea_popescu: it's just... people aren't made for
this world ;
they properly belong in
the grave and not perambling ab out.
mircea_popescu: man has a handle
that suggests he groks it ;
then has government steal his fucking business ;
then goes on
to... propiose & defend empire.
mircea_popescu: it was a painful and sad process, being disabused of
the notion
that average human is capable
to
tribune (ie, maintain law, complicated discussion i won't go into) via
the rota experiment AND
the notion
that average human is capable
to praetor (ie, administer resoruces) via
the whole bitcoin finance/investment/profits/etc
thing.
a111: Logged on 2013-03-20 20:17 pigeons: usagi had 3 different risk profiles for his cdos, and he bought OBSI.HYPT (High Yield Pass
Through into secret business model now run away with
the money) in
the EXTREMELY LOW RISK group
mircea_popescu: there was a very
talented (also female) scammer early on, made a "fund" called "obsi" something. very soft approach, also quietly disappeared.
ben_vulpes: goes against
the whole grain of how
those systems work. single accountable individual with life and death power.
mircea_popescu: utter and complete monopoly, no bureaucracy may have
the wonder in
the future nor ever had it in
the past.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-14 17:20 Framedragger: (larger profitable orgs may be able
to implement
this, with ample compensation, but, sure, not bbet.)
mircea_popescu: yes, some people have others who'd die for
them. why
the fuck would
they let $rando into
that club again ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-14 17:19 Framedragger: yep,
the only way
this 'may' work if you have a partner whom you fully
trust, and
the arrangement of which somehow does not involve monetary compensation. which is ~untenable
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643576 << and let me guess, i'm supposed
to expose
this incredibly rare and expensive resource for
the benefit of
the redditard peons, who don't want
to pay for it but DO want
to make random claims because hey, gotta make a claim
to exist and research of any description is way above
their pay grade ?
☝︎ trinque: Framedragger: I'm disputing
that business partnership is definitionally "purchased honesty"
Framedragger: trinque: didn't understand
the reference hm, but (necessarily and
totally) yes?..
a111: Logged on 2015-12-10 14:26 asciilifeform: none of
the idiot heresies are even in any sense new. 'multisig', for instance, is simply 1990s clinton key escrow, 'old wine in new bottle'
trinque: Framedragger: better odds for good outcome in business partnership if you had a preceeding relationship with
the guy eh?
trinque was
taking
the shears
to an overly broad statement.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 13:09 mircea_popescu: oh since i'm
thinking about it :
there's
two specific items
tmsr wants
to bring
to
the field of probate reform : a) no juridical person beneficiary. no government, ngo, corporation,
trust etc may obtain as much as a farthing from any succession. physical persons only. b) no
tax or fee of any kind may be levied against succession.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-27 17:38 asciilifeform: 'It is about sending a strong message. I
think we may need
to start an accreditation scheme for Bitcoin-consensus compliant wallets and services.
Through code signing and use of multisig, we can even distinguish
transactions made by compliant wallets and non-compliant wallets, and have pools not mine
them (or wallets refuse
to send
to known-non-compliant wallets).'
trinque: I don't
think
that's an honest interpretation
Framedragger: re. purchased honesty, well i dunno,
two business partners entering business arrangement..
that's a
thing
that happens (cue mp "as we have seen, it doesn't! so can't ever!1")
trinque: no such
thing as purchased, but probably such
thing as "owned"
Framedragger: heh re. latter, i'm sure
there is ("pay my family suicide-money after my death")
Framedragger: (larger profitable orgs may be able
to implement
this, with ample compensation, but, sure, not bbet.)
☟︎ Framedragger: yep,
the only way
this 'may' work if you have a partner whom you fully
trust, and
the arrangement of which somehow does not involve monetary compensation. which is ~untenable
☟︎ Framedragger: in consideration, machine + operator having keys is not a good idea and
the risk is indeed multiplied. 2-of-2 sig doesn't work if one can do basic arithmetic.
Framedragger: (to be clear: machine-which-can-send-moneys has
to sign, and operator has
to sign as well. necessarily both.)
Framedragger: trinque: asciilifeform: i did naively 'assume'
that one could
think of an arrangement when 2-of-2 or similar signature scheme would be 'safe'.
mircea_popescu: a Framedragger walks into a bar, and
the bar goes WHAM!
trinque: Framedragger: what recourse is
there
that doesn't involve exposing keys
to more
than one person, and why is
that multiplied risk of absconding more agreeable
to you
than present circumstances?
mircea_popescu: dutches demanding less
than a pig would be workable economcially. but chronical rotinculo/mortidafame who imagine
they should get
the moon on a golden platter,
these aren't economically interesting.
mircea_popescu: there are, more broadly and more sadly, no robotic human or alien solution s available
to dealing with
the usgtard
to his satisfaction. because he's worth less
than a pig and demands more
than a duchess.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no; neither do
they deal with EC backdoors or sun exploding. having a practical but limited-in-scope
threat model is not useless in itself.
Framedragger: i can
think of couple of approaches but i agree
that
they are not zero-in-cost, so, meh, i concede