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mircea_popescu: do not think that the intelligent people caught like bubbles in the fiat mire are happy to be there.
mircea_popescu: the merit of a pgp signature is that it delivers them from having to do this. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: check these people out, they have fine art authorship grading down to a fine art!
mircea_popescu: Giovanni Bellini means that in their opinion, this is a work in the style of Bellini and of a later date. vii) After Giovanni Bellini means that in their opinion, this is a copy of a known work of Bellini.
mircea_popescu: k by an as yet unidentified but distinct hand, closely associated with Bellini but not necessarily his pupil. v) Style/Follower of Giovanni Bellini means that, in their opinion, this is a work by a painter working in Bellini's style, contemporary or nearly contemporary, but not necessarily his pupil. ‘Contemporary or nearly contemporary' means that it was painted within about 50 years of Bellini's work. vi) Manner of
mircea_popescu: Bellini means that, in Sotheby's opinion, this is probably a work by Bellini, but there is less certainty expressed as to authorship than in the preceding category. iii) Studio of Giovanni Bellini means that, in their opinion, this is a work by an unknown hand in the studio of Bellini, and it may or may not have been executed under his direction. iv) Circle of Giovanni Bellini means that, in their opinion, it is a wor
mircea_popescu: For every auction sale, a catalogue is produced describing each painting to be sold. Every entry indicates the certainty with which Sotheby's is prepared to attribute it to a particular artist. The catalogue entry may describe a painting in the following ways: i) Simply putting the name of the artist, for example, ‘Giovanni Bellini,' means that, in Sotheby's opinion, the work is by Bellini. ii) Attributed to Giovanni
mircea_popescu: ture.
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: more heavily, ithink
mircea_popescu: casa's different
mircea_popescu: it's not really hard to make, need pot with water and coarse ground corn. and a woman that knows how long to boil it and what proportions.
mircea_popescu: it's usually boiled into solid. something like http://www.romaniadevis.ro/dacia/cache/com_zoo/images/mamaliga-cu-branza-si-smantana_0021_008f3c26469f8cb5dd3dd0f6a0301d8a.JPG
mircea_popescu: mamaliga cu brinza.
mircea_popescu: perhaps the only time romania's ww1 peculiar dish was eaten here this millenium
mircea_popescu actually likes it, has it in argentina even.
mircea_popescu: no i mean, the common, standard foodl. regarded as ideal by the village prisoners.
mircea_popescu: "no, i dont think they were townpeople [ie idiots] because when sitting to repast they took out mamaliga cu brinza like normal pewople]
mircea_popescu: but no, it is oft seen as an ideal.
mircea_popescu: so then.
mircea_popescu: they did say so!
mircea_popescu: but it did make comraderie.
mircea_popescu: in romania it was polenta + cheese + onion cut up.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, isn't this also strictly wrong ? wasn't it the case that the whole village ate ~the exact same dish~ every day forever ?
mircea_popescu: !up referredbyqntra
mircea_popescu: (it rhymes in russian because it's russian. a language from 1700! it needn't rhyme in english, unless we're going for faux-peasant wisdom)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi why you think 'in savour or hue, no comrades have you' better than "in color or taste there's no comrades"
mircea_popescu: quo fucko warranto you do it for art, too!
mircea_popescu: "yes, but you do those BY SPECIAL MANDATE!.
mircea_popescu: "oh, but we already do guilt and innocence, which are ALSO transcendents"
mircea_popescu: rank fucking nonsense. it should be clearly obvious this is not something the court can do.
mircea_popescu: And then, when the experts have come to their conclusion, and that conclusion is challenged in court, (as opposed to the marketplace or in critical writing), a judge must decide that the experts were right or wrong.
mircea_popescu: ely almost entirely on expert opinion concerning the quality of the art, that is to say, is the quality of the art being examined of the quality expected of a painting by the artist—in this case, Caravaggio. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Authenticating a work of art is often difficult, and more difficult when the art is four or five hundred years old, and at least one tool for the expert, to wit, provenance, is often limited or non-existent. And, science (materials analysis) does not get us very far since many of the problems for Old Masters come right out of the artist's studio (think Rembrandt). Thus, for Old Masters at least, the expert is left to r
mircea_popescu: from punkman's article :
mircea_popescu: great idea, great painting, why does the woman's face look like it was peeled off asphalt pizza
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Edouard_Manet_-_Luncheon_on_the_Grass_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg < wtf is that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, upon consideration venus does have to some degree the sharp features of the ideal fox. at least moreso than all the piefaces everyone wants to paint for some reason ☟︎
mircea_popescu: >in< color and taste there aren't comrades
mircea_popescu: ooo yeah
mircea_popescu: wut are teh words mean!
mircea_popescu: it literally sayz, za taste and za color, comrades not.
mircea_popescu: color and taste aren't comrades ?
mircea_popescu: "de gustibus" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. people like alma-tadema, godward etc do women that look more like adults
mircea_popescu: mneah. i dun like it, not my kinda woman.
mircea_popescu looks again
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to consort with preteens ffs.
mircea_popescu: much like maja has the face of a sly thirteen year old.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what you like is what you like. to me she seems dumb.
mircea_popescu: but i don't mean copacetically like. i mean like like one's supposed to like art : un coup fumant. if she came off the toille you'd have no choice but to drop everything and marry her.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this suggests a fine exercise for the esteemed lordship and beyond. not everything in this life is code, and a gentleman needs to study and know a loit more than rubies. so therefore : which classical nude do you like the face of ?
mircea_popescu: i don't remember any classical nude i like the face of.
mircea_popescu: and the historical master's taste in women shows they never met any for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: besides, the modern copy can be fix. i much prefer my own rewrites of classical poems to the originals anwyay.
mircea_popescu would not feel particularly better for owning the "actual" copy of a painting he likes rather than a very good one. actually i'd feel like a total fool.
mircea_popescu: so it's kinda a forgone conclusion, art authenticity.
mircea_popescu: the only illegal part is fraud, obviously.
mircea_popescu: not like the things are under copyright anymore.
mircea_popescu: also, the thing is, it's perfectly legal to order and own, and trade etc COPIES
mircea_popescu: as fucking if.
mircea_popescu: which is how 99% of these "fake fine art" arguments are settled - no eggyolk in the pigment or shit
mircea_popescu: ("oh this march is from 1722 and then they put antimony in the brass. this march was a fake!)
mircea_popescu: much like a good performance of a march does not get anulled through having been "not the original" and nobody sticks around to compare the brass instruments used
mircea_popescu: fine art is either fine for its fine-ness or then not even art at all.
mircea_popescu: quite exactly.
mircea_popescu: (goya has a dressed maja and a nude one, they were goin to make "la maja en chemise")
mircea_popescu: anyway, pretty much your idea : a wanna-be rockefeller (except fraudster-y) hires an eccentric copyer to make an intermediate maja
mircea_popescu: italian comic of the war period.
mircea_popescu: ancient film with toto. know him ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of goya, ever seen un coup fumant ?
mircea_popescu: this would be true if there existed a usg agency of authenticity.
mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ~= africa.
mircea_popescu: ayup.
mircea_popescu: orly!
mircea_popescu: this is like, "it doesn't work if i come back home and there's TWO almost dressed blondies waiting for me"
mircea_popescu: orly.
mircea_popescu: he'll be voted, if that's what keeps millions from raining.
mircea_popescu: this is like "only if he can be voted into office"
mircea_popescu: at the mental level where us adults are, $500 mn for soccer trading cards would not be amiss.
mircea_popescu: that has nothin to do.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248274 << you know this is ~extremely~ common. maybe even half the fine art privately owned / displayed at any time is fake. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i feel like a very old man.
mircea_popescu: that weird feeling when you wake up at 4pm, everyone's gone to do useful stuffs and you have a pile of explanatory notes, aggregated foodstuffs and so forth.
mircea_popescu: oh i guess they were using it historicaly for the line above huh
mircea_popescu: incidentally, why the fuck is ^ called a caret. a caret is supposed to go below the line.
mircea_popescu: irc, an ADVENTURE!~
mircea_popescu: mebbe they made a soup, who knows. ima ask teh girls.
mircea_popescu: i got one from yest, too :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform say, you keep sending me these carets, what are they supposed to do ? add to my collection ?
mircea_popescu: s just they don't amount to much traffic wise, even when piled together, which is how i've never noticed before.
mircea_popescu: it
mircea_popescu: anyway, turns out trilema's linked from tons of various reddits in all sorts of topics, from recovering tlp old posts he apparently deleted to whatever random other thing.
mircea_popescu: that's the subreddit mod neh ?
mircea_popescu: but since we're doing lulz, check out what the dragnet drug up https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zq8j/because_most_people_are_idiots_in_spite_of_never/c8aabj7
mircea_popescu: either they stole someone's shit, in which case i want the original ; or else they made it up, in which case i dun want to hear it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if it's "original" to vice it's a lie by vice.
mircea_popescu: then their mother can read it & care.
mircea_popescu is not reading a vice regurgitation of anything. got the actual link ?